TotalBiscuit's 'First Impressions'

[Vader]

This is a "First Impressions" video done by TotalBiscuit.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RnNLoMQnLaY

[TooMuchTuna]

kwegar lähetti viestin:

TB is a jerk. Bashing it right off for controller support. More and more people WANT controllers for steam games. (oh and Y does not invert, since you do not have a Y.. hmm think of CLICKING on the TEXT beside the button? no TB is a moron, without a working brain it seems) I could go on and on about how stupid this guy seems, but he does a great job of that himself.
He may have some valid points, but he also shows how little he actually played the game as well. (yes I would love of lot more, and I hope they add more)

It's a first impression video, not a full review. Hence he hadn't played the game for very much.
And he TB isn't AGAINST controllers -- he reviews plenty of controller-only or controller-preferred games -- but it's the fact that the devs failed to include both controller options and keyboard options.

What good is pressing (Y) on your controller if you're using the keyboard and mouse? That's what TB was talking about. Lazy porting.

Although, I do believe that this issue was patched recently? (I'm not sure) but still - it bears repeating.

It's now common practice for devs to release half a game and fix things later. If things would have been tested/made a little better in the first place, this FIRST IMPRESSIONS video would have been a lot kinder, I believe.

[Vader]

skankityspence lähetti viestin:

kwegar lähetti viestin:

TB is a jerk. Bashing it right off for controller support. More and more people WANT controllers for steam games. (oh and Y does not invert, since you do not have a Y.. hmm think of CLICKING on the TEXT beside the button? no TB is a moron, without a working brain it seems) I could go on and on about how stupid this guy seems, but he does a great job of that himself.
He may have some valid points, but he also shows how little he actually played the game as well. (yes I would love of lot more, and I hope they add more)

It's a first impression video, not a full review. Hence he hadn't played the game for very much.
And he TB isn't AGAINST controllers -- he reviews plenty of controller-only or controller-preferred games -- but it's the fact that the devs failed to include both controller options and keyboard options.

What good is pressing (Y) on your controller if you're using the keyboard and mouse? That's what TB was talking about. Lazy porting.

Although, I do believe that this issue was patched recently? (I'm not sure) but still - it bears repeating.

It's now common practice for devs to release half a game and fix things later. If things would have been tested/made a little better in the first place, this FIRST IMPRESSIONS video would have been a lot kinder, I believe.

The controller buttons have been removed from the game in the most recent beta version. It should not be long until it is pushed live.

[Mushe]

TB's duty is to protect us from awful games, keeping our money safe, but there are some that apparently can't understand that, for example > Many people says that he did an uncomplete review (Even the dev) > False, it's just firsts impressions, it's not on his duty to know every single thing on the game. I'm talking about all this people that is saying bad things about TB without any clear or correct reason. Also, maybe of topic, but Guise of the Wolf WTF Is video was removed by the devs (Same as the Garry's Incident Incident)... Someone doesn't like that they talk bad about they awful game (More info on TB's subreddit or Twitter), the company is now in talks with TB's lawyer, they claimed to TB: "We are so huge compared to your little channel" (The dev it's just a kid apparently). Just saying this in case that this happends here.

[Disaster Gay of Crisis]

TB has not become a jerk, his first impressions are what he thinks of a game when he first starts playing it. He talks about what it feels like for a newcomer from his point of view. That is the whole point of 'first impression videos' is that they show what you'll get at the beginning and what they see when they first started playing.

He did mention he spent over three hours playing the game and also mentioned during his research of the game he did join multiplayer servers and played with others. Just because you don't like how he views a game at first and sees something negative doesn't mean he isn't "doing a good job" or that he is a "jerk."

[༼ つ ◕◡◕ ༽つ Dray2k]

Sorry for another terrible and lengthy post, I need to get this out from my system. I even shortened this wall of text so I hope you guys still understand what I'm rambling about though.

Mushe lähetti viestin:

TB's duty is to protect us from awful games,...

I do agree, but there is a problem with stating that it is "his duty to protect us" because that sounds like that he is the only "superhero" out there with common sense. If a game is bad in a sense that it really is, then many people actually will agree with that notion. For instance, games like Day One: Gary's Incident and Ride to Hell: Retribution were objectively bad games and shunned by "players" and "critics" alike for well founded yet very obvious reasons. There is broken, and there is almost unfixable due to overally bad design and money issues. There is valid or at least well explained reasoning regarding these issues and there is just blind love/hate.

And after all, I assume that many eyeballs were looking at this game after TB went out to make a public video of it. That might be a positive thing entirely on it's own. Everyone has their own opinion and if people really wan't to buy a game I assume that they would do a little bit more research than to merely watch one video of a person talking about it for half an hour.

The gaming world is not a black and white place where only brilliant and terrible games exist. That very abundant grey zone is something very important to consider since this game seems to rather fit in that abstract category than to be downright terrible or amazing. I mean you can't really argue that for instance that this game costs about 10x as much as it did on xbox360. Thats a considerable price increase even if that isn't is as much as some AAA game. But you can't also argue that this game might aswell be considered "cheap fun" when it's on steam sale for a just few bucks. If that game would solely come out for PC then it would be an entirely different thing, but it isn't. This price class was made by DigitalDNA alone and he/they should at least adhere to the idea that a "cheap but fun game" would deserve a price that is more well reasoned towards the PC gaming audience. This doesn't mean however that this game should be priced for 1$ either.

I believe that if this game would be like 3-6 dollars people would most likely be much more acceptive towards it as a product. TB called the pricing his "final insult" at the end of his video for a good reason I think.

Guarkin Cider, Arch-Guarmagister lähetti viestin:

...Just because you don't like how he views a game at first and sees something negative doesn't mean he isn't "doing a good job" or that he is a "jerk."

This is the truth these "counter haters" have to put up with. TB at least seems to be a good person judging from his explainations and he also knows the consequences when he is saying that a game is bad. That should be enough to form a solid opinion nowadays.

I've yet to see that a video game developer gets ruined solely by him stating that a game is bad. Apart from that unholy abomination that is FUN creators, but they deserve hate for entirely different reasons.

[Disaster Gay of Crisis]

Dray2k lähetti viestin:

Ride to Hell: Retribution were objectively bad

Actually some critics and reviewers told people to get Ride to Hell because it was so bad to the point it was a comedic b-movie grade game, most notably Yahtzee himsef recommended for a good laugh.

[WindRunner]

Hey mod, since these people are calling TB all kinds of good censored words, can I do the same? Maybe? Ok, here goes.

Wow, some truely stupid individuals here. He is not bashing the game for having controller support, he bashing a FPS (you know, one of the genres where k+m is better then controllers) for not having proper keyboard and mouse implementation and for the straight port for the XBox to the PC without optimizing it for the platform.

[DigitalDNA Games]

We all saw the video, a lot of what was said in it was just patently untrue or misunderstood. The rest has been expressed by other people here and we are working on fixes. It would be more productive to open up individual discussions on the particular issues. I think this has been discussed to death now so I am going to lock it.