A Hat in Time
Teero Nov 21, 2018 @ 10:37am
Hardest Death Wish level (including Bonuses)
I have about a third of the Snatcher Tokens so I am not that far in. Still, the supercharged Mafia Boss was extremly tough. He took me several sessions to beat and multiple hundreds of tries, between 200 and 300.

The ones after that were fine. Challenging, but fine.

Will there be something even harder than the Mafia Boss? Also, what was the toughest level with the bonuses for you guys?
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Lunaire Nov 21, 2018 @ 10:41am 
Yes, way harder actually.

As for toughest level with bonuses, probably has to be 10 seconds until self destruct, I already dread having to replay that level, nevermind actually achieving the bonus tasks.
Human Person Nov 22, 2018 @ 5:22pm 
Seal the Deal, is the final death wish challenge. I'm not sure if it is the hardest, but it is much harder than the harder Mafia boss.
Huebirb Nov 23, 2018 @ 11:26am 
To me, I don't know which one is the hardest. I do know that I took over 300 tries on the no-hit bonus for "Ten Seconds Till Self-Destruct", it wasn't that it was hard it was just that I would constantly mess up at the end and those rockets would always be right where I was jumping.
Teero Nov 24, 2018 @ 4:09am 
@Linker9851 Pretty much the same for me. I did it yesterday with more or less the same amount of tries as you and I didn't find it as hard as the Mafia Boss EX. Still, something always went wrong and caused me to get hit. It was a great challenge though. No randomness whatsoever.

I'm dreading the Boss rushes now. I can't imagine them being easier than what I have done for now. Can anybody here who 100% the whole Death Wish map comment on that?
Lunaire Nov 24, 2018 @ 4:23am 
I haven't 100% Death Wish (yet), but I have completed the hardest contract.

The Boss rushes aren't that bad, they have checkpoints so if you die you can restart at the boss who killed you, up to three times, also those checkpoints save your health, so don't go into a boss fight with 1 health and then die, you will regret it.

Spoiler warning: The 2nd Boss rush actually makes it easier for you, as all not all of them the bosses have reduced health, you normally need to hit Mustache Girl five times to initiate her next phase in the Hyper Zone. In the 2nd Boss rush you only need to hit her three times, what this means is that you'll defeat the bosses faster and don't have to avoid as many attacks as you normally would, which helps with not getting hit as health pons are very limited.
Teero Nov 24, 2018 @ 7:24am 
Gotcha, thank you very much for the info. Thank god for the checkpoints. I honestly wouldn't have expected them to give us checkpoints.

Btw, I just cleared the birdhouse challange. Killing the 6 mafias took me quite a while.
Huebirb Nov 24, 2018 @ 9:23am 
Good luck 100% Death Wish without mods or Peace & Tranquility because you'll need it.

Also Death Wish is not as hard as you might think it is (although I did 100% Death Wish myself and now that I look back, it feels like every contract is easy so I don't know if this statement is credible).
794redfield Nov 24, 2018 @ 9:40am 
For me, it was the Deep Sea collapsing Time Rift and its "Collect Every Rift Pon" Stamp, that place was already not designed that well for speedrunning, but having to collect every single Pon within the Time Limit you're given is an exercise in insanity. Seal the Deal (The Contract) as a whole is just complete bull once you get to EX+ Snatcher, but I still did it, I 100% every contract without Peace and Tranquility because I love this game.
vier.4.iv Nov 26, 2018 @ 4:56am 
This is gonna sound really weird, but Speedrun well and The illness has speedrun were much harder than 10StSD for me
Teero Nov 26, 2018 @ 7:07am 
Hm, I didn't think there would be as many different opinions and viewpoints regarding the thoughest challenge as you have shown. I kinda expected a more "definitive" answer.

Everyone has their own personal nightmare level I guess.
RenStar Oct 21, 2019 @ 6:30pm 
the bird house challange may not be the hardest but sure is the most annoying one to get the bonus
BBerry Oct 21, 2019 @ 7:50pm 
The non-ex boss rush with the bonus of not missing a chance to hit was the hardest for me, and was the last one I had left.

Most of the bosses are ok, but sometimes the conductor/Dj. Grooves land the disco ball on the stage or under the floor, forcing you to fail, but it doesn’t take much to get back to them.

Mustache girl is a different story, there’s multiple attacks she has where she goes out of bounds (teleport, or the floor burst attack), and it happens a LOT more often than you think. But the real salt in the wound is that if you fail to hit her at EVERY opportunity, you have to do every other boss without missing over again

Sorry that this is so long.

*edit: there are checkpoints, so you can die to restart a boss’s “no miss” run, but if the conductor/ Dj. Grooves go under the floor, you have to start the death wish over from the very start.*
Last edited by BBerry; Oct 21, 2019 @ 7:55pm
Dr. Treefrog Oct 22, 2019 @ 1:33pm 
Wound-Up Windmill, One-Hit Hero
~A Camt in Time~ Oct 22, 2019 @ 5:51pm 
Originally posted by Dr. Treefrog:
Wound-Up Windmill, One-Hit Hero

Not just one-hit hero, but no hat abilities too! No heckin thanks.

As for OP, imo the two hardest challenges for me were one hit hero on Mafia Boss Ex, and as people have said, one hit hero on Ten Seconds to Self Destruct, and also most of the speedruns for the precision, the Well one especially because you have maybe a second to spare on a PERFECT run.

There are also three DW levels I refuse to do without P and T:
Wound Up Windmill
Deep Sea Rift Collapse
and
Cruisin' for a Bruisin'

The latter of which I might complete for real someday but the other two I have permanently given up on.

Regardless, remember that there is NO shame in using Peace and Tranquility, and you can get the full completion achievement with it if you must. I reccommend you P and T any levels you're truly stuck on and go back and do them legit later if you want to. That's what I did.

The most important thing is that it's supposed to be fun, so remember that!
Last edited by ~A Camt in Time~; Oct 22, 2019 @ 5:51pm
HatKid Oct 25, 2019 @ 1:20pm 
For me the hardest Death wish is 10 seconds until self destruct
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