The Ending, questions (SPOILERS)

[Ghostly Goth]

I loved this game to bits, enjoyed the adventures and boss fights but i still question the ending cutscene.

So when Hat Kid is about to leave, The Snatcher along with the Mafia, Conductor and D.J Grooves grab onto her spaceship begging her to not leave as they wanna be her friend after what happened.

I felt like you should have gotten a choice to either take off, stay, or even bring them aboard and go (cause why not) as i really enjoyed the characters. I understand from Hat Girls diary that they basically all back stabbed her and used her for their own good which is maybe why she took off? but in the end they all helped her out to make sure she wins and get that last Hour Glass, backing up Hat Kid during the final fight.

I remember also at the ending of The Snatcher boss fight, Hat Kid had a contract to sign which said "Get out" etc etc, but she changed it up and said "Let's be BFFs <3" then in the end when he wanted to be her friend ( or ask her to stay) she just zooms off, which is a little silly.

The Conductor and D.J Grooves saying "We can watch our movie together!" would have been pretty cool and cute to see aswell.

[CrabBar]

Yeah, the ending is a bit controversial, I found myself wondering a lot.

I stopped on the sentence that you shouldn't rate someone's actions until you know everything about the situation.

I mean, Hat Kid was going home the whole time, gathering Time Pieces was just accidental delay. Who knows where (and why) she tries to get asap? Also I'm a bit sure that the company of Mafia, two weird birds (with one swearing all the time) and spooky ghost being won't be met well where Hat Kid goes.

However, the choice still should've been imo. Just to feel anybody's sake. It might conflict with the upcoming lore/sequel tho.

[Bloodrealm]

Honestly, I think it's fine they didn't insert a choice there. There's no way Hat Kid is going to not travel home. It's the only goal that actually mattered to her the whole game, and just literally brushing them off is perfectly in character for her as the anti-hero she is.
As for why not try to go with her? Snatcher is NOT going to give up his forest, Conductor has his train and an implied family, DJ Grooves has his adoring public, the Mafia of Cooks have... well, the Mafia of Cooks, Cooking Cat probably has things to do, and let's not forget they'd all be leaving their home planet for possibly forever.

[Tundrest | stopkillinggames.com]

Hat Kid didn't want to become Snatcher's friend, she cheekily changed the contract to basically say "Hat Kid, stay at my forest and have fun, and become by bff". Then she went back to her spaceship and wrote in her diary about how much of a jerk Snatcher is.

Also, they wanted her to stay, not to go with her. And she's a child who's been away from home for weeks, makes sense that she'd want to get back home quickly.

[Moe Magi Maxima]

"Then she went back to her spaceship and wrote in her diary about how much of a jerk Snatcher is." And about how indignant she was at him thinking he could betray her and get away with it, apparently. Hat Kid's interesting like that.

[Pay Child Suport]

I admit, when given the choice to give a time piece to Mustache Girl, I stared at the screen for a good long time.

However if R. King says she has a heart of gold (if you haven't seen this easter egg, you're missing quite a lot), the obvious answer is not to give the time piece. they're too good and very devastating if it falls into the wrong hands. That said, asking her to stay is also no, coming along with her is also no. the only true answer is to shrug them off and leave asap.

Lastly everyone seems to forget the prologue that it is due to the Mafia that she lost all the 40 time pieces in the first place. Snatcher and the birds even wanted to have one time piece to themselves. And please, who knows what Vanessa might do with the time piece that's sitting on her attic, being the crazy [s]girlfriend[/s]SJW that she is.

[Moe Magi Maxima]

Цитата допису Tentacle Grape:

I admit, when given the choice to give a time piece to Mustache Girl, I stared at the screen for a good long time.

However if R. King says she has a heart of gold (if you haven't seen this easter egg, you're missing quite a lot), >the obvious answer is not to give the time piece. they're too good and very devastating if it falls into the wrong hands<. That said, asking her to stay is also no, coming along with her is also no. the only true answer is to shrug them off and leave asap.

Lastly everyone seems to forget the prologue that it is due to the Mafia that she lost all the 40 time pieces in the first place. >Snatcher< and the birds even wanted to have one time piece to themselves. >And please, who knows what Vanessa might do with the time piece that's sitting on her attic, being the crazy [s]girlfriend[/s]SJW that she is<.

On the first bracketed point, Mustache Girl's worldview was already cracking mid-fight upon realizing that everyone dying would leave her all alone, who's to say the preceding curbstomp despite throwing everything at Hat Kid in last-ditch desperation didn't completely shatter it? She IS still a kid, after all, and it is proven kids learn new things more readily than adults do. (As for the actions carried out, remember the old saying: there is nothing so innocent and cruel as a chlld. And seeing as how her innocence was apparently lost when the island was taken by the Mafia...)

On the second bracketed bit, Snatcher didn't want the Time Piece for any express purpose, so much as he felt that it was his property due to landing in "his" forest, same as the others that he bribed Hat Kid with.

On the third bracketed bit, Vanessa isn't sane enough to hold an ideal by the time you meet her, she's just full-on psychotic Yandere. ...And just so happens to be the most powerful presence in the entire game on top of that.

[Bloodrealm]

I had to think about giving the Time Piece a lot, too, but I ended up doing it.
Remember that the Mafia of Cooks beat up children and old men for no reason other than to look tough. You see a few of them that seem somewhat decent, like the bartender, but the group as a whole are bad news.
As Kid-Hearted Gamer mentioned, Mustache Girl may have changed somewhat, especially in regards to nobody appreciating her extreme methods. Hat Kid also does want to take down the Mafia for being big dumb jerks, and showing Mustache Girl that someone DOES care about her and her initial cause even if they don't want to change the world is just a good thing to do for a friend on top of that goal.
It's only a single Time Piece, so it wouldn't be able to cause THAT much trouble, and I had all 40, so I figured Hat Kid would still be able to get home with that, or at least close enough. Plus, she's an adorable little ♥♥♥♥-disturber, so she'd probably have a blast imagining all the weird things that could happen because of that Time Piece. Returning to retrieve it someday is probably not out of the question, either (Hat Kid was already halfway home from where ever she was when the game started).

[Pay Child Suport]

have you actually seen the R. King easter egg?

This is probably just me, but giving her the time piece will make her no different from R. King with how his greed turned out to be his very downfall as per his confession to the letter. giving her the time piece is a bad idea. the time piece itself will ruin her. greed (and power) will consume her. her ambitions are nothing short of dangerous either.

seriously, it's a spell of doom.

who's to say the preceding curbstomp despite throwing everything at Hat Kid in last-ditch desperation didn't completely shatter it? She IS still a kid, after all, and it is proven kids learn new things more readily than adults do.

if anything, having this fight in the first place is proof that she can't hold this power responsibly.

[Squeakret Squirrel]

We don't know much about hat-kid and her "Home" I have the feeling her "Home" is actually in the future of these planets, Mostly because of the explosion on the oppisite side of home most likely being the big bang as it were, That said taking ANYONE would be a terrible idea, Though she still debates weather or not to drop the time-piece which I find intressting, Perhaps she know's it won't matter or hopes it could change something later... Or is just you know... A sentimental kid.

Either way I gave her the time piece because I love making bad decisions and having to face the consquences later, Horror movies and adventures would be very boring if everyone was a 100% prepaired and did the smart thing.

[Moe Magi Maxima]

Btw, that R. King thing, was that the Easter Egg in the closet only accessible via No-clipping and Fox Mask? If it was, don't take too much stock in that, as it was confirmed by the devs to be an in-joke of sorts.

As for Hat Kid, heart of gold she may have, but a pragmatic mind, as well. You're basically deciding which between the two she prioritizes at the end. And if the devs' heart of gold bit is canonically what she prioritizes, then that would be taking pity on Mustache Girl. Pragmatic would be not doing so in order to not risk getting home.

Now, I would like to propose an idea to compromise: a spinoff starring Mustache Girl after the events of the game and the "send Time Piece down" ending. Goal: free the island of the Mafia. You would get to decide how she chooses to do so, thereby soft-solving the divide we seem to be having here. ...I dunno, just throwing my hat in the ring, there. (Heh, "hat".)

[Bloodrealm]

The computer at the start of the game said she was 5 Light Years* away from home, which means that she's not from the planet's future.

*A Light Year is the distance light travels in one year when uninterrupted.

[Squeakret Squirrel]

Цитата допису Bloodrealm:

The computer at the start of the game said she was 5 Light Years* away from home, which means that she's not from the planet's future.

*A Light Year is the distance light travels in one year when uninterrupted.

Oh yeah I completely forgot about that line, Which is fair I guess since it was said once at the start of the game.

So yeah she's not from this set of planets future, Unless this solar system is absloutely gigantic [whcih it's not since we can see all the planets just outside her window.]

Only way we're seeing the consquences of our actions [Other than not making all the way home.] then is if hat-girl decides to come back for some reason, We still don't know what she even went back for, Also if that explosion at the left of that tracker is the big bang, Could that mean Hat-Kids home is at the end of time itself? I imagine not many planets or species made it that far now that I think about it.

[Moe Magi Maxima]

Цитата допису Kilo:

Цитата допису Bloodrealm:

The computer at the start of the game said she was 5 Light Years* away from home, which means that she's not from the planet's future.

*A Light Year is the distance light travels in one year when uninterrupted.

Oh yeah I completely forgot about that line, Which is fair I guess since it was said once at the start of the game.

So yeah she's not from this set of planets future, Unless this solar system is absloutely gigantic [whcih it's not since we can see all the planets just outside her window.]

Only way we're seeing the consquences of our actions [Other than not making all the way home.] then is if hat-girl decides to come back for some reason, We still don't know what she even went back for, Also if that explosion at the left of that tracker is the big bang, Could that mean Hat-Kids home is at the end of time itself? I imagine not many planets or species made it that far now that I think about it.

Honestly, that Noodle Incident that is the apparent explosion (which looks like a crash-landing to me) is one of the more mysterious mysteries in this game...

[Pay Child Suport]

Цитата допису The Kid-hearted Gamer:

Btw, that R. King thing, was that the Easter Egg in the closet only accessible via No-clipping and Fox Mask? If it was, don't take too much stock in that, as it was confirmed by the devs to be an in-joke of sorts.

no I'm talking about the one below the telescope where he writes that he was basically consumed by greed.

As for Hat Kid, heart of gold she may have, but a pragmatic mind, as well. You're basically deciding which between the two she prioritizes at the end. And if the devs' heart of gold bit is canonically what she prioritizes, then that would be taking pity on Mustache Girl. Pragmatic would be not doing so in order to not risk getting home.

How is it pragmatic that she gives her time piece to mustache girl FOR FREE? and that it might not make her go back home? being pragmatic is to handle the problem realistically and her original problem is going home, not to include herself to mustache girl's "drama".

Now, I would like to propose an idea to compromise: a spinoff starring Mustache Girl after the events of the game and the "send Time Piece down" ending. Goal: free the island of the Mafia. You would get to decide how she chooses to do so, thereby soft-solving the divide we seem to be having here. ...I dunno, just throwing my hat in the ring, there. (Heh, "hat".)

true that. this game needs more content and I won't complain one bit.

Цитата допису Bloodrealm:

The computer at the start of the game said she was 5 Light Years* away from home, which means that she's not from the planet's future.

*A Light Year is the distance light travels in one year when uninterrupted.

I'd rather not to tackle this too much. it would beg the question of why she left home in the first place. Just stick to the 40 time pieces falling from her ship.

[Moe Magi Maxima]

"How is it pragmatic that she gives her time piece to mustache girl FOR FREE? and that it might not make her go back home? being pragmatic is to handle the problem realistically and her original problem is going home, not to include herself to mustache girl's "drama"." You got it backwards. I was saying the >pragmatic< way would be to not give it to her. The >heart of gold< way eschews pragmatism to gamble on trust for the possibility of redemption. Naive, to be sure, but more possible with a child than an adult, and just as in-character as not giving it would be for Hat Kid. And really, either choice has consequences in its own right, in theory: do you abandon a friend to forever thinking of you as an enemy and an inability to survive against the ones that hate them with guarantee of getting home, or do you show them you were never their enemy and give them a fighting chance (not absolute power, which is what all the Time Pieces at once seem to give) at the risk of not getting all the way home?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx_BlcZsVW0

(Incidentally, the reason I don't include the possibility of Mustache Girl going right back to trying to "rid the world of bad guys" would be that, if she truly is as far gone as that even after the fact, then it matters little whether she has a Time Piece or not; she'd just turn the volcano faucets again either way. And in such event, Hat Kid leaving is what doomed the planet. Rest assured, though, I do understand where you're coming from, and it makes sense. But take it from someone normally devoted to being as pragmatic as possible, not everything that can happen even in real life makes total sense from a pragmatist perspective.)