How Part Two Should've been

[bossanova]

The game starts with Abby and her crew, fishing by a lake, almost as is like we downloaded the wrong game, no Elly, no Joel. Just Abby hunting and fishing with her crew, having a good time killing and chilling, sharing jokes and short stories till they come back...
They see the gates are open! The Alarms are on, Abby and her crew panics they run toward the base only to see a massacre.

We cut to Joel and Elly. sitting by a fire, complete silent. both Joel and Elly not sharing words. consequences of the Traumas they experienced (Elly with the cannibals and Joel with the fireflies...) this Changes both of them for good, maybe even Joel Get a new haircut like Shane in TWD

after a while, Elly starts remembering voices and convos from surgery room in fireflies base while she was Unconscious. words like "cure... vaccine... surgery..." she starts asking questions. Joel keeps with his lie. Elly snaps and run away toward the fireflies. Joel follows her. Elly finds Abby midway. Maybe they become friends, Unknowing of their pasts or identities...

hows that so far?

[Razin_Shah]

lemme tell you sumthin Ellie.
- Joel

[peremptor]

Opprinnelig skrevet av bossanova:

The game starts with Abby and her crew, fishing by a lake, almost as is like we downloaded the wrong game, no Elly, no Joel. Just Abby hunting and fishing with her crew, having a good time killing and chilling, sharing jokes and short stories till they come back...
They see the gates are open! The Alarms are on, Abby and her crew panics they run toward the base only to see a massacre.

We cut to Joel and Elly. sitting by a fire, complete silent. both Joel and Elly not sharing words. consequences of the Traumas they experienced (Elly with the cannibals and Joel with the fireflies...) this Changes both of them for good, maybe even Joel Get a new haircut like Shane in TWD

after a while, Elly starts remembering voices and convos from surgery room in fireflies base while she was Unconscious. words like "cure... vaccine... surgery..." she starts asking questions. Joel keeps with his lie. Elly snaps and run away toward the fireflies. Joel follows her. Elly finds Abby midway. Maybe they become friends, Unknowing of their pasts or identities...

hows that so far?

No good... modern audience storytelling has to be blunt and direct and leave no room for interpretation or otherwise 'gamers' that play your game will think something like JOEL IS DA GOOD GUY when he is in fact all that is wrong in the world by the fact that he's... WELL NUFF SAID ;)

[halbermensch999]

Joel is not all bad. He's like many a damaged person due to a loss plus the whole apocalypse thing

Or in game 3 Mario wakes up and it's a mushroom induced hallucination / fever dream

[bossanova]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av bossanova:

The game starts with Abby and her crew, fishing by a lake, almost as is like we downloaded the wrong game, no Elly, no Joel. Just Abby hunting and fishing with her crew, having a good time killing and chilling, sharing jokes and short stories till they come back...
They see the gates are open! The Alarms are on, Abby and her crew panics they run toward the base only to see a massacre.

We cut to Joel and Elly. sitting by a fire, complete silent. both Joel and Elly not sharing words. consequences of the Traumas they experienced (Elly with the cannibals and Joel with the fireflies...) this Changes both of them for good, maybe even Joel Get a new haircut like Shane in TWD

after a while, Elly starts remembering voices and convos from surgery room in fireflies base while she was Unconscious. words like "cure... vaccine... surgery..." she starts asking questions. Joel keeps with his lie. Elly snaps and run away toward the fireflies. Joel follows her. Elly finds Abby midway. Maybe they become friends, Unknowing of their pasts or identities...

hows that so far?

No good... modern audience storytelling has to be blunt and direct and leave no room for interpretation or otherwise 'gamers' that play your game will think something like JOEL IS DA GOOD GUY when he is in fact all that is wrong in the world by the fact that he's... WELL NUFF SAID ;)

Come on bald Joel is basically a Max pain and it would triple the sales

[alex010300]

A better story would be that Abby and her friends were captured by Fedra and Abby spill the beans on Ellie's immunity so Fedra can find and kill Joel. Fedra comes after Joel and Ellie and they had to escape deep into the wild areas of America to escape from Fedra.

But the activist wants to display a Strong women and have more Trans characters so we got this Story instead.

[Madeline]

Get rid of Abby altogether and develop the dynamic of Ellie and Joel and put them into situations of more struggle and conflict. That would have been the smart way to continue the story but we all know the ideological reason Druckmann took it down this appalling path and I am glad the game flopped sales wise compared the first (and only real LOU game).

[halbermensch999]

Teenager has problems with "dad"? How interesting

[peremptor]

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No good... modern audience storytelling has to be blunt and direct and leave no room for interpretation or otherwise 'gamers' that play your game will think something like JOEL IS DA GOOD GUY when he is in fact all that is wrong in the world by the fact that he's... WELL NUFF SAID ;)

Come on bald Joel is basically a Max pain and it would triple the sales

Hey I hear you brother and I agree but the game wasn't about catering to the core gamer's preferences now was it?

[peremptor]

Opprinnelig skrevet av halbermensch999:

Joel is not all bad. He's like many a damaged person due to a loss plus the whole apocalypse thing

Or in game 3 Mario wakes up and it's a mushroom induced hallucination / fever dream

I agree with his decision it would be idiotic to give up your surrogate daughter to be killed by a dodgy group in hopes of finding a cure. If it had been something less dramatic like drawing blood and having her stay there for x amount of time... something reasonable but killing someone to maybe help others is... not just stupid but ethically wrong.

This 2nd part is done in bad faith with the assumption that Joel was 'morally wrong' when he obviously made the right and only choice.

[bossanova]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Madeline:

Get rid of Abby altogether and develop the dynamic of Ellie and Joel and put them into situations of more struggle and conflict. That would have been the smart way to continue the story but we all know the ideological reason Druckmann took it down this appalling path and I am glad the game flopped sales wise compared the first (and only real LOU game).

I know. I preferred a Male antagonist that had nothing to do with fireflies
when Joel killed that black lady, she said "let me go..." and Joel responded "no, you'll just gonna follow..." and shot her.
Which meant there are No More fireflies and they were the last of them. But no. Niel decided hey, FFF that. let them follow Joel and Elly to have a story to tell
Stupid just stupid