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Chama Oct 13, 2022 @ 6:52am
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Casual Bans were Necessary to Rocket League
  • Casual is ranked, but without the added stress of ranked.
  • In casual, you still are trying to win. If you aren't trying to win the game, quit Rocket League.
  • The mentality of "I can leave whenever" gets really old when every other lobby results in people leaving. Bans fixed this to a large degree. Casual is fun again.

Demos are Apart of the Game, so just Accept it
  • It's been apart of the game since the birth of RL. 7+ years. Stop complaining.
  • Demo's allow the game to be opened up to more possibilities. Stalemate? 8 minute OT? Demo.

Smurfing is a Community Problem, not a Psyonix Problem.
  • Psyonix does not control their community. Nor do they control people who smurf. So stop blaming it on them.
  • Smurfing is a part of every competitive game. Rocket League is no exception.

    Psyonix has no Control over your Teammates
  • Psyonix does not control the toxicity of anybody. Stop blaming Psyonix for your teammates loser mentality.
  • Yes, people are toxic. Why should Psyonix have to take care of something that is out of their control? Stop whining about dumb teammates.
  • Report them and move on with your life. Complaining about it does nothing.

    Matchmaking is Working as intended.
  • There is no reason to start blabbing on about matchmaking in Rocket League. The system Psyonix has implemented works flawlessly.
  • If you have a smurf in your game, again, that is a community problem and not a psyonix problem.

    Stop blaming Psyonix
    Stop blaming Psyonix
    Stop blaming Psyonix
    Stop blaming Psyonix
Last edited by Chama; Oct 13, 2022 @ 6:56am
Originally posted by LUHLUH:
Originally posted by Honey Badger:
Originally posted by Gradymeister:
Stop blaming Psyonix
Stop blaming Psyonix
Stop blaming Psyonix
Stop blaming Psyonix

Stop defending a company that doesn't care about you, me, or anyone here.

They aren't going to thank you. Hell, I'd very much doubt anyone from Psyonix (Minus the steam mods) will read this because the steam discussions can be incredibly toxic at times.

could always blame epic like real a Gamer
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Oct 13, 2022 @ 7:40am 
Originally posted by Gradymeister:
Casual is ranked, but without the added stress of ranked.
And without proper rank calibration
Originally posted by Gradymeister:
Smurfing is a part of every competitive game. Rocket League is no exception
The exception is that RL doesn't do anything against it. I've never heard of anyone being banned for smurfing.
Originally posted by Gradymeister:
Stop blaming Psyonix
No, I gotta blame someone other than me.
Chama Oct 13, 2022 @ 8:46am 
Originally posted by :
Originally posted by Gradymeister:
Casual is ranked, but without the added stress of ranked.
And without proper rank calibration
Originally posted by Gradymeister:
Smurfing is a part of every competitive game. Rocket League is no exception
The exception is that RL doesn't do anything against it. I've never heard of anyone being banned for smurfing.
Originally posted by Gradymeister:
Stop blaming Psyonix
No, I gotta blame someone other than me.
freestylers just got banned for smurfing. and the ban was a month long. So, wrong.
Oct 13, 2022 @ 8:57am 
best thing that happened in years if true
too true too true

i play casual to practice spacific mechanics without the stress of giving a ♥♥♥♥ when whiffing
Guinea Pig Lover Oct 13, 2022 @ 3:26pm 
Casual Bans were Necessary to Rocket League
Casual is ranked, but without the added stress of ranked.
In casual, you still are trying to win. If you aren't trying to win the game, quit Rocket League.
The mentality of "I can leave whenever" gets really old when every other lobby results in people leaving. Bans fixed this to a large degree. Casual is fun again.
I dont get how casual is ranked without the stress of ranked if youre still stuck in the match lmao
The reason people played casual is to test mechanics and stuff and leave whenever it was a clear loss or because whatever, something came up or they just weren't having fun. Leaving whenever is WHY people played casual. Theres literally no gameplay difference between ranked and casual. If you dont like people leaving, play ranked.

Also what?? Why are you mad people are playing without having to force themselves to try to win, in a game mode where it literally does not matter if you lose?? If you want to win, why aren't you playing ranked?? It's literally just for people to relax

I apologize if I came off as hostile on the first part, I don't really play casual anymore, so I think the bans for leaving are stupid, but I get the pain for casual players, so I can respect the opinion. I just don't get whats so different between Casual and Ranked other then toxicity. Also it feels counter intuitive that you WANT people to win in the CASUAL gamemode, instead of playing RANKED where EVERYONE wants to win
Last edited by Guinea Pig Lover; Oct 13, 2022 @ 3:31pm
Originally posted by Gradymeister:
Casual Bans were Necessary to Rocket League
  • Casual is ranked, but without the added stress of ranked.
  • In casual, you still are trying to win. If you aren't trying to win the game, quit Rocket League.
  • The mentality of "I can leave whenever" gets really old when every other lobby results in people leaving. Bans fixed this to a large degree. Casual is fun again.

- Casual can still be stressful as ♥♥♥♥ if you treat it like ranked (aka how they want you to treat it nowadays, it is purely used as a warmup for ranked) source: I play purely casual and people still stress the ♥♥♥♥ out, and it still stresses me out, I have no ranks to gain.

- If you play a game where you can win, you want to win! Who the ♥♥♥♥ would've thought that? You can literally apply that to any game, Call of Duty, FIFA, Dark Souls, etc, this is no exception so what even was this point of saying this?

- The point of casual was that you can play the game casually, while I agree there was a problem (I've had the game since 2015), the ban only encourages people to disconnect their internet and "lose connection" (happens a LOT more than you people think) or they'll just AFK when they're in a losing game of 0 - 5 with 1 minute left and someone wants to keep playing the game and refuse to concede/forfeit (Again, happens a lot more than you think)

Believe it or not, some people play to have fun, as well as win. If you're winning but not having fun what's the point, and likewise if you're losing but having fun then go nuts but don't drag others down with you.

Originally posted by Gradymeister:
Matchmaking is Working as intended.
  • There is no reason to start blabbing on about matchmaking in Rocket League. The system Psyonix has implemented works flawlessly.
  • If you have a smurf in your game, again, that is a community problem and not a psyonix problem.

- Flawlessly you say? I really. REALLY. doubt it, unless you've got statistics to back up what you're saying, I will take purely what you say with a pinch of salt. If you're going off your own experiences, great, but myself and many people would love to tell you about the many games we're getting in a row where we're losing to people, or the other team gets 1 person who carries them hard (Again, casual but boy-howdy does it happen!).

- So who bans the smurfers? Oh wait, psyonix... I have no issues with smurfers as a purely casual player cause it doesn't affect me one bit but what do you expect the community to do? Report them? Great! But then someone has to ban them, and you sure as hell aren't gonna let the community do that!

Originally posted by Gradymeister:
Stop blaming Psyonix
Stop blaming Psyonix
Stop blaming Psyonix
Stop blaming Psyonix

Stop defending a company that doesn't care about you, me, or anyone here.

They aren't going to thank you. Hell, I'd very much doubt anyone from Psyonix (Minus the steam mods) will read this because the steam discussions can be incredibly toxic at times.
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
LUHLUH Oct 13, 2022 @ 4:47pm 
Originally posted by Honey Badger:
Originally posted by Gradymeister:
Stop blaming Psyonix
Stop blaming Psyonix
Stop blaming Psyonix
Stop blaming Psyonix

Stop defending a company that doesn't care about you, me, or anyone here.

They aren't going to thank you. Hell, I'd very much doubt anyone from Psyonix (Minus the steam mods) will read this because the steam discussions can be incredibly toxic at times.

could always blame epic like real a Gamer
Last edited by LUHLUH; Oct 13, 2022 @ 4:48pm
Chama Oct 13, 2022 @ 5:31pm 
Jesus. I'm not defending any company first of all. I'm playing the devils advocate. I find Psyonix does nothing wrong to warrant all the stupidness people throw at them.

"casually" is not an excuse to say "i can leave whenever"
How can one say, "oh the playlist is named casual, that means I get to leave whenever"
Do you guys not realize how dumb that sounds?

The entire argument of, "Oh, it's named casual though" is no argument at all. There is literally nothing in that statement that says you get to leave whenever. Casual does not mean, "of no consequences". There are still very much consequences for playing a mode named "casual", how could there not be?

I love it when people say this crap. Just because the playlist is named casual, they think that somehow means of no consequences. It makes absolute no sense. The entire point of playing Rocket League is to win, and the second you remove yourself from the game, you put your teammates at a disadvantage, thus making the odds of winning in that game lower. That right there deserves you being banned. Do I need to say more?

If somebody can, how does the word, "casual" translate into, "i can leave whenever"
I'd love to hear this argument, as whatever comes out of their mouth is absolute turd talk.
Last edited by Chama; Oct 13, 2022 @ 5:45pm
Originally posted by Gradymeister:
Jesus. I'm not defending any company first of all. I'm playing the devils advocate. I find Psyonix does nothing wrong to warrant all the stupidness people throw at them.

"casually" is not an excuse to say "i can leave whenever"
How can one say, "oh the playlist is named casual, that means I get to leave whenever"
Do you guys not realize how dumb that sounds?

The entire argument of, "Oh, it's named casual though" is no argument at all. There is literally nothing in that statement that says you get to leave whenever. Casual does not mean, "of no consequences". There are still very much consequences for playing a mode named "casual", how could there not be?

I love it when people say this crap. Just because the playlist is named casual, they think that somehow means of no consequences. It makes absolute no sense. The entire point of playing Rocket League is to win, and the second you remove yourself from the game, you put your teammates at a disadvantage, thus making the odds of winning in that game lower. That right there deserves you being banned. Do I need to say more?

If somebody can, how does the word, "casual" translate into, "i can leave whenever"
I'd love to hear this argument, as whatever comes out of their mouth is absolute turd talk.

If you're not defending ANY company and want to be taken seriously, remove the "Stop blaming psyonix" part. I'm not saying they're 100% to blame for everything as SOME issues are the communities fault, BUT they sure as ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hell aren't 100% innocent either, and saying that makes you look like a fanboy who will do anything for them.

Can you name me ANY competitive game that will ban you from casual games for leaving midgame? This is the only game I know of that will ban you for leaving a casual game, at any point, just for leaving.

Let me ask you this: What IS the difference between Casual and Ranked?

Its nothing to do with consequences actually, its to do with expectations. If I'm playing casual i should be able to drop in and out, I have 0 commitment to the game at all, with all due respect, ♥♥♥♥ the other people on my team, unless I'm playing with friends, why the hell should I care about my team when there's nothing at stake, there's no rank, no money, only the dopamine rush you get from getting a goal. (I don't hate the people I play with, but I expect them to drop out any second, which is what I see a lot, so why should I expect any different?)

But let's be real, the actual problem with casual bans isn't even the name "casual" but the mechanic of voting to concede/forfeit. I don't know about you but if I play a game 0 - 4 with 1 minute left I don't really want to keep playing, but there's a lot of times where someone doesn't want to concede, for one reason or another. I don't want to be stuck in that game, it's not fun for me. And it's not fun for people. That's the true problem with casual bans, people are getting banned for leaving losing games and someone thinks they're hot ♥♥♥♥.

Sure, it is a community problem leaving all the time, but there are much better ways of doing it; You ever noticed you can't concede within the first minute? Keep it like that and allow people to freely leave after 2 - 4 minutes. You've committed to a game but if you feel its a lost cause, you've put enough time into it, so you should be able to leave. But you won't like that, so hey I guess we'll take people greifing and going idle instead.

P.S

Originally posted by Gradymeister:
whatever comes out of their mouth is absolute turd talk.

Do you want us to take you seriously?
That's not a trick question, if you want us to give you constructive discussions, don't say ♥♥♥♥ like this, you've set a precedent that you don't care what I tell you, and if you don't, fine, but then what was the point of this thread?
Chama Oct 14, 2022 @ 8:00am 
Agree to disagree then.
Doomstrike Oct 14, 2022 @ 9:48am 
The difference is one gives rewards and the other doesn't so when my team loses I don't have to worry about costing them a rank up or rank down when they are trying to get to GC or SSL. You should still be trying your best to win and play the game as expected. I said it years ago but the play lists should of been renamed. Casual should be renamed to ranked and comp should be renamed to ranked season ladder XYZ

There is no mess around mode and own goal join leave crap and there shouldn't be, that is what practice, custom, or training is there for.

Every time you hit que you are expected (and psyonix agrees) that you are committing about 7 min to play a game and to play it properly as its not just you but up to 5 (or 7) others also go in and expect the same
Originally posted by Doomstrike:
The difference is one gives rewards and the other doesn't so when my team loses I don't have to worry about costing them a rank up or rank down when they are trying to get to GC or SSL. You should still be trying your best to win and play the game as expected. I said it years ago but the play lists should of been renamed. Casual should be renamed to ranked and comp should be renamed to ranked season ladder XYZ

There is no mess around mode and own goal join leave crap and there shouldn't be, that is what practice, custom, or training is there for.

Every time you hit que you are expected (and psyonix agrees) that you are committing about 7 min to play a game and to play it properly as its not just you but up to 5 (or 7) others also go in and expect the same

In that case why the hell haven't they renamed it? I don't expect you to know all the answers but this seems like quite a big thing to overlook. But i still think at the very least a causal mode SHOULD be there, you can't get the same in practice/exhibition mode with bots as you can with online players. Hell, I'll take exhibition IF the bots were improved, cause I'm in the weird zone where all-star bots are easy for me but players can be too difficult

And by no means am I saying there should be a mess around game mode where people can grief, I just wish we had a game where we can play against people in a balanced match and if things are really bad and we're losing by several points with only 30 seconds left, that I have the option to drop out! I appreciate yourself and many people don't mind, but a lot of others would also say that it's a waste of time! (And forget this whole "if you can't even wait 30 seconds for it to end why are you playing?" argument because the alternative, which I see many people do, is just idle! Which is childish at best)

Just understand this comes from a frustrated player, I don't hate the game by any means and I'm not trying to start a war here, it just infuriates me when i have 4 losing games in a row and I can't even concede, and this is me playing at my best regardless.
Doomstrike Oct 14, 2022 @ 10:38am 
It just comes down to sportsmanship. I get the frustrations but just because you are losing doesn't mean you can just up and walk away. Finish the round then take a break don't reque just to repeat the same mistakes or continue the tilt.

If you were to play a board game do you just walk away because you are in 3rd place? or hell really any other game? you play it out as to not ruin it for everyone else. (i get this is the internet and stuff but you still have to try and hope for the best)

As for the idling and all that even if there are 10 seconds left, you can still report people and they are getting banned even though you might not see it. Like someone else said Psyonix is or it seems like, starting to really crack down on smurfs and other things like it. For example a lot of the freestylers got banned and those that didn't got their unranked mmr changed to matched up their ranked mmr. The question is if this is a one time thing or if they will keep on it only time will tell
Sushi Oct 14, 2022 @ 1:12pm 
Dude i just can't with people. It was called CASUAL for a reason, you did not enjoy the game for WHATEVER reason you were able to leave. There is a COMPETITIVE mode for a reason. You guys are committed from beginning to finish in a ranked game, but not in a casual game for-ducks-sake.

Lad before me had the best solution. Make it not possible to leave for the first minute, means your teammate will not tilt-leave after an early goal, but please still expect your teammate to leave if they are not having fun.
Protect Freedom Oct 14, 2022 @ 1:29pm 
Dude, what a Fanboi.......

Casual Bans are not nessecary at all, since casual is just a timefiller, for practicing, waiting for something or just not much time. If you wanna play serious go play ranked.

1. "Casual Games" - A person who plays video games on an infrequent basis. Usually these games require low time investment and can be played or discontinued on a whim.

Smurfing is a Problem of Psyonix, since they have it written in their ToS, that Smurfing is against the rules, just they do not care and since F2P, they can not get rid of it anymore, since everyone can create infinite accounts ans smurf till the end of the world

MMR is a joke, since almost everyone is somewhere between plat and Dia.
My wife plays Rl in Dia, and when i watch her playing, 70% of the peoples she get matched with are noth more than Gold level.

Anyway, Fanboi, i bet you got a cendy from psy, for writing that strange Post

Originally posted by Gradymeister:
Casual Bans were Necessary to Rocket League
  • Casual is ranked, but without the added stress of ranked.
  • In casual, you still are trying to win. If you aren't trying to win the game, quit Rocket League.
  • The mentality of "I can leave whenever" gets really old when every other lobby results in people leaving. Bans fixed this to a large degree. Casual is fun again.

Demos are Apart of the Game, so just Accept it
  • It's been apart of the game since the birth of RL. 7+ years. Stop complaining.
  • Demo's allow the game to be opened up to more possibilities. Stalemate? 8 minute OT? Demo.

Smurfing is a Community Problem, not a Psyonix Problem.
  • Psyonix does not control their community. Nor do they control people who smurf. So stop blaming it on them.
  • Smurfing is a part of every competitive game. Rocket League is no exception.

    Psyonix has no Control over your Teammates
  • Psyonix does not control the toxicity of anybody. Stop blaming Psyonix for your teammates loser mentality.
  • Yes, people are toxic. Why should Psyonix have to take care of something that is out of their control? Stop whining about dumb teammates.
  • Report them and move on with your life. Complaining about it does nothing.

    Matchmaking is Working as intended.
  • There is no reason to start blabbing on about matchmaking in Rocket League. The system Psyonix has implemented works flawlessly.
  • If you have a smurf in your game, again, that is a community problem and not a psyonix problem.

    Stop blaming Psyonix
    Stop blaming Psyonix
    Stop blaming Psyonix
    Stop blaming Psyonix
Last edited by Protect Freedom; Oct 14, 2022 @ 1:33pm
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