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ousqa (Banned) Sep 11, 2020 @ 4:32pm
Why doesn't rl have a dedicated server I can download?
Like I don't get why I can't just host a vanilla server, lots of others games make it pretty easy. Now I have to download a modded server which I guess isn't the worst thing but I'd rather just have vanilla.
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GrunzJr Sep 11, 2020 @ 8:10pm 
How exactly does one "download a server" and what is a "modded server" in this game?
Poor Bastard Sep 11, 2020 @ 8:34pm 
How many multi-platform games let you host a dedicated server? It was common for old school PC games but never was for console ports.

And the real reason is because they don't want pirates running their own network of game servers or have to deal with people reverse engineering the netcode and finding exploits.
Cric Sep 12, 2020 @ 1:07am 
1. Because on a dedicated server they couldn't sell you all that fancy cosmetics!
2. The matchmaking/leagues would work even worse if the playerbase would be split across mutliple servers.

But it indeed would be great to have dedicated servers. We could run servers compatible with the latest Linux-native version!
ousqa (Banned) Sep 12, 2020 @ 6:49pm 
Originally posted by GrunzJr:
How exactly does one "download a server" and what is a "modded server" in this game?
just a server you can run off your pc. And modded is just rl but with mods
ousqa (Banned) Sep 12, 2020 @ 6:50pm 
Originally posted by Poor:
How many multi-platform games let you host a dedicated server? It was common for old school PC games but never was for console ports.

And the real reason is because they don't want pirates running their own network of game servers or have to deal with people reverse engineering the netcode and finding exploits.
Ah that makes sense. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate cheaters
ousqa (Banned) Sep 12, 2020 @ 6:51pm 
Originally posted by Cric:
1. Because on a dedicated server they couldn't sell you all that fancy cosmetics!
2. The matchmaking/leagues would work even worse if the playerbase would be split across mutliple servers.

But it indeed would be great to have dedicated servers. We could run servers compatible with the latest Linux-native version!
I feel like they wouldn't lose too much in cosmetics as people would just buy them for normal mm. You might be right about mm Idk
peak monkey Sep 13, 2020 @ 10:39am 
What? How do you expect them to milk the cow if they give the cow for free? the game has had a focus on e-sports for a while now, they don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about the community. Why would they give you the chance to have your own server? After having your own server you'll be having custom content and some other weird ♥♥♥♥, like pony ♥♥♥♥ and nazi servers, so no. I love china btw, pls no ban.
Zen © Sep 13, 2020 @ 12:42pm 
Originally posted by ApeTogetherStronk:
What? How do you expect them to milk the cow if they give the cow for free? the game has had a focus on e-sports for a while now, they don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about the community. Why would they give you the chance to have your own server? After having your own server you'll be having custom content and some other weird ♥♥♥♥, like pony ♥♥♥♥ and nazi servers, so no. I love china btw, pls no ban.

I say the fact that they don't give up the server code is proof that unlike your contention, they do care about the community. No cheating due to the code being available to create mods off, all players in 1 spot which increases the chances for more balanced matchmacking and decreases the length of time waiting for a match. The fact that the game is an esport is also proof as it is an avenue to introduce new players to the game with the hope that they will see pros playing and decide to try picking up the game themselves which helps grow the community.

At it's base its about making money that is the entire point behind corporations creating the games we play if they dont make money doing it they go out of business and we have no games to play, that is not greed its free market. The fact that all transactions after the purchase of the game are pure cosmetics also points to how non-greedy they are as if they made it pay to win it would increase the amount of money they would milk off their user base.

I am so tired of hearing how greedy the devs are for this game, its ridiculous that people hold this opinion of a game that 1 you only needed to pay for once to be on a level playing field with everyone else and 2 is going to a free to play model where you will soon no longer need to actually purchase the game.
Fijut Sep 13, 2020 @ 12:44pm 
The real reason is that the bulk of the alpha community cried about custom maps being in ranked modes as they weren't good enough to adjust to different map shapes - easier to predict the ball in the same old square.

And of course, if they didn't like custom maps, they won't be happy. and if they aren't happy, they won't buy cosmetics, will they?

Dedicated servers would let you create and play with your own content. Not something Developers like in 2020.
peak monkey Sep 13, 2020 @ 1:22pm 
Originally posted by Zen©:
I say the fact that they don't give up the server code is proof that unlike your contention, they do care about the community.
You either never been on a community server or don't know about ban votes. Your assumption is base on none other than great expectations for the devs. Community servers have always had a voting system to prevent cheating, and I'm talking really old community servers.
Originally posted by Zen©:
At it's base its about making money that is the entire point behind corporations creating the games we play if they dont make money doing it they go out of business and we have no games to play, that is not greed its free market.
Then why is it that after I have buy it I don't get access to the code? Why can't I have a community server if I already buy it? Is it my game or the corporation's game? Who's property is it? That's not free market.
Originally posted by Zen©:
I am so tired of hearing how greedy the devs are for this game, its ridiculous that people hold this opinion of a game that 1 you only needed to pay for once to be on a level playing field with everyone else and 2 is going to a free to play model where you will soon no longer need to actually purchase the game.
So costumers can't complain about the product they purchased? What a commie. I love china btw they are the best, no ban.
Zen © Sep 13, 2020 @ 1:59pm 
Originally posted by ApeTogetherStronk:
You either never been on a community server or don't know about ban votes. Your assumption is base on none other than great expectations for the devs. Community servers have always had a voting system to prevent cheating, and I'm talking really old community servers.

I am not talking about cheating on community servers i am talking about cheating on psyonix servers where the vast majority of players would be. You know using the server code to come up with some type of cheat mod that would work on Psynoix's servers. Look at the poop show that is GTA online to see what happens when the server code is available for those with the ability to create mods that benefit themselves on the online environment.

Originally posted by ApeTogetherStronk:
Then why is it that after I have buy it I don't get access to the code? Why can't I have a community server if I already buy it? Is it my game or the corporation's game? Who's property is it? That's not free market.

It is called intelectual property, meaning that the game is owned by the publisher you purchase the right to play the game within the bounds of the terms of service provided by the publisher. In other words you are not really buying the game, your purchasing a license to use the game.

Originally posted by ApeTogetherStronk:
So costumers can't complain about the product they purchased? What a commie. I love china btw they are the best, no ban.

Customers are free to complain, no where did i say you could not, all i said is I am sick of hearing nonfactual complaints.
peak monkey Sep 13, 2020 @ 2:52pm 
Originally posted by Zen©:
Originally posted by ApeTogetherStronk:
Look at the poop show that is GTA online to see what happens when the server code is available for those with the ability to create mods that benefit themselves on the online environment.
And that game sold like turkey on thanksgiving.
Originally posted by Zen©:
Originally posted by ApeTogetherStronk:
It is called intelectual property
You really believe this corporativism ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥? You deserve he overlords you have.
Originally posted by Zen©:
Originally posted by ApeTogetherStronk:
Customers are free to complain, no where did i say you could not, all i said is I am sick of hearing nonfactual complaints.
Originally posted by Zen©:
I am so tired of hearing how greedy the devs are for this game, its ridiculous that people hold this opinion of a game that 1 you only needed to pay for once to be on a level playing field with everyone else and 2 is going to a free to play model where you will soon no longer need to actually purchase the game.

Originally posted by Zen©:
its ridiculous that people hold this opinion of a game that 1 you only needed to pay for once to be on a level playing field with everyone else and 2 is going to a free to play model where you will soon no longer need to actually purchase the game.
So you're tired of me complaining? It's almost as if you don't want me to complain, what a commie.
You do look tired. Get some air.
I love china china is the best btw.
Zen © Sep 13, 2020 @ 3:04pm 
To avoid a big quote tunnel i will respond without quoting you.

Yes GTA sold massively, the reason for that has nothing to do with how the game is set up, it has everything to do with the type of game it is.Comparing sales betwen GTA and niche game such as RL is a non starter, comparing the differences in how they handled the use of servers, GTA being client side and the cheats that come with it and RL being server side and the lack of cheats that come with that is completely legitimate. though having a larger user base GTA will have more cheats in general.

Corporatism no Free market yes. I don't have overloards any more than you do. I do not know where you live but if it is Communist China well I have way more freedoms in my daily life than you do. Even China is moving to a more corporate free market structure, do some research if you want to know more as I do not think it would be appropriate for me to lecture you on the history of communist China on a game forum.

Now that i have addressed your points, the overall tone of your post seems to be that you are upset i disagree with you, which is fine, in fact in encourage that as a form of free expression, however if you do not add anything of value to the conversation I will stop here before it devolves into repetition of me bringing actual information to the discussion and you vaugely disagreeing with me and attempting to elicit and angry response that you ultimately will not get from me.
peak monkey Sep 13, 2020 @ 3:37pm 
Originally posted by Zen©:
Yes GTA sold massively
This is the reason rl need community servers
Originally posted by Zen©:
I don't have overloards any more than you do
You sure about that?
Originally posted by Zen©:
lecture you on the history of communist China
Please do. It help move the conversation forwards, don't let the topic stop you.
Originally posted by Zen©:
I will stop here before it devolves into repetition of me bringing actual information to the discussion and you vaugely disagreeing with me
I haven't agree with you cause you haven't provided good points.
Why even quote me if you don't want to keep the discussion alive? Seems to me like you know I'm right and you are unable to provide good information on why the game can't have community servers, other than some intelectual property lie that only helps corporations and not the customers.
Poor Bastard Sep 13, 2020 @ 3:54pm 
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