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Ne2rns 2019 年 3 月 19 日 上午 5:20
Is saying "What a save!" toxic?
im playing 1v1 and a player misses a save and i say "What a save!" and then he continues to flame me of how toxic i am and that i'm destroying this community.
Do you thing saying "What a save!" is toxic?
最后由 Ne2rns 编辑于; 2019 年 3 月 22 日 下午 3:35
引用自 puckhead:
Saying anything from quick chat is not toxic in the slightest. Move on, nothing to see here. Words from unknown people do not matter.
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Mars 2019 年 3 月 19 日 下午 1:38 
引用自 AnonymousUser
引用自 Mars

Sure, I suppose you did say that... but I do think it's an unfair and rude representation of a person who's simply feeling insulted... what's so abnormal about feeling insulted after someone insults you?

The question is, did Ace mean to hurt his opponent, or did hr think that his opponent was about to save, but he just responded a second too early, or did he just mean to joke around with his opponent? What was his intention? Only he can answer that.

He's told us enough. He said his opponent missed a save, and he mocked him for it(there's simply no spinning it). Not only that, look at his childish responses in this thread, he's certainly no saint, this would be a pretty safe assumption, safer than assuming he might've had a more friendly intention.

This is basically the guy, pointing a gun at someone, and later claiming he never meant to shoot anyone.
HeTookMyUsername 2019 年 3 月 19 日 下午 1:40 
引用自 Mars
引用自 AnonymousUser

The question is, did Ace mean to hurt his opponent, or did hr think that his opponent was about to save, but he just responded a second too early, or did he just mean to joke around with his opponent? What was his intention? Only he can answer that.

He's told us enough. He said his opponent missed a save, and he mocked him for it(there's simply no spinning it). Not only that, look at his childish responses in this thread, he's certainly no saint, this would be a pretty safe assumption, safer than assuming he might've had a more friendly intention.

This is basically the guy, pointing a gun at someone, and later claiming he never meant to shoot anyone.

Alright then.
最后由 HeTookMyUsername 编辑于; 2019 年 3 月 19 日 下午 1:40
Mars 2019 年 3 月 19 日 下午 1:46 
引用自 AnonymousUser
引用自 Mars

He's told us enough. He said his opponent missed a save, and he mocked him for it(there's simply no spinning it). Not only that, look at his childish responses in this thread, he's certainly no saint, this would be a pretty safe assumption, safer than assuming he might've had a more friendly intention.

This is basically the guy, pointing a gun at someone, and later claiming he never meant to shoot anyone.

Alright then.

Does that mean you agree, and that it's just simply rude to be insulting? C'mon, return to the light side. :squirtyay:
HeTookMyUsername 2019 年 3 月 19 日 下午 1:51 
引用自 Mars
引用自 AnonymousUser

Alright then.

Does that mean you agree, and that it's just simply rude to be insulting? C'mon, return to the light side. :squirtyay:

The both of us had some wrongs in our theorizing :mindblown:. Now, I am not on anybody's side. Heck, now I don't think I'm on my own side. Want to know why I'm not? Because I am no longer a part of this conversation, therefore, I have no side. Overall, good talk, nobody wins. And I don't even care if Ace pinned my message as the answer of the discussion, nobody wins.

:qr:
Mars 2019 年 3 月 19 日 下午 2:00 
引用自 AnonymousUser
引用自 Mars

Does that mean you agree, and that it's just simply rude to be insulting? C'mon, return to the light side. :squirtyay:

The both of us had some wrongs in our theorizing :mindblown:. Now, I am not on anybody's side. Heck, now I don't think I'm on my own side. Want to know why I'm not? Because I am no longer a part of this conversation, therefore, I have no side. Overall, good talk, nobody wins. And I don't even care if Ace pinned my message as the answer of the discussion, nobody wins.

:qr:

I'll accept it as your resignation. Enjoy your Rocket League experience with the reformed players of my gospel preachings.
HeTookMyUsername 2019 年 3 月 19 日 下午 2:02 
Thank you for being a part of this argument. May us both learn!
Tyberi 2019 年 3 月 19 日 下午 2:11 
To everyone who for some reason didn't got that information before and they're using quick-chat incorrectly
( incorrectly because majority of people use specific quick-chats on specific purpose in specific order and what is known as common sense is basicly decided by what majority do, not single people here and there )

"What a save!" - use it as a words of approval for a really good save
"What a save!" - use it to mock someone fail at defending
"Close one!" - use it if someone failed at defending yet, you still want to show him you appreciate his saving attempt

"Nice shot!" - use it as a words of approval for a really good shot ( no matter if someone scored or was very close )
"Nice shot!" - use it to mock someone fail at shooting goal ( he had a perfect situation to score and failed doing that )
"Close one!" - someone had a good situation to score, he failed but overall situation deserve some words of appreciation ( someone pulled nice air-dribble by half a field yet slightly missed opponenets goal at the end )

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If you mix those things up and you blame other people for not reading your intentions behind your quick-chats, how about instead of complaining on people wrongly read your intentions - simply learn the proper way to communicate with other players by the rules of what is common sense in specific game.

If someone write "EZ" at the end of the match, no matter how good intentions are behind that, it's commonly known as mocking of the opponent...
...and if you would cry loud about being called toxic, insulted and such stuff after writting EZ at the end of the match - tell me - who is here to blame? Other people or you not knowing what EZ means and what reaction you can expect after writting that.

If you put "What a save!" after someone failed at defending, it's only your fault that you use that one faulty, because what you actually should do is "Close one!" if you tried to encourage the defender that his defending attempt was a good one in your eyes.

If you want to communicate with people, in specific game, in specific way, LEARN THE PROPER WAY first. Like I said before, "What a save!" after missing goal is commonly known as a mocking, just because you use it with good intentions doesn't mean it suddenly gonna change. There is a specific quick-chat for the purpose you desrcibed and it's - "Close one!".

Same as "Thanks" can be used as a response to a "Nice shot!" and "Thanks" can be used as a words of disapproval if someone bump you away from the ball or interupt you in other way.


But I actually don't understand changing your statment of what you ment by those words
>At first you admited that you were mocking of the guy and it's okey in your eyes because everyone does that and it's normal.
>Now you're trying to tell that you're actually not mocking but trying to show your approval to someones skills at defending.

So what is it exacly? Because you had to ment something by those words but seems like your explanation to that change with discussion going.


I would have more respect to you if you would admit you didn't know that it's toxic and it was simply lack of knowledge than constantly changing your story to look good at the end.
最后由 Tyberi 编辑于; 2019 年 3 月 19 日 下午 2:26
Tempest 2019 年 3 月 19 日 下午 5:33 
rude but not toxic
Cow 2019 年 3 月 19 日 下午 5:48 
It depends if you use it sarcastically or not... if you do, then I think that's toxic. I've removed all quick chats that could be interpreted sarcastically, because I knew I would abuse them if I had them... I don't even have "thanks" anymore :)
BooM 2019 年 3 月 19 日 下午 6:33 
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MajikTowst 2019 年 3 月 19 日 下午 6:45 
引用自 L3m0n Ku5h
引用自 Finjo
I feel like you're being intentionally obtuse here. The "What a save" quickchat is there for non-sarcastic reactions to an actual save made by a teammate. I personally don't care, but if you're using it for any other purpose, you're being a ♥♥♥♥, fact.
Where does it actualy say it was made for non sarcastic situations?
Take a baseball bat for example. Its intended use is to play baseball, but unfortunately, it is one of the most common assault weapons on the planet. In no way is it restricted to only be used while playing baseball, but the other uses aren't always appropriate.

Just because you CAN do something, doesn't always mean you should.
MajikTowst 2019 年 3 月 19 日 下午 6:48 
引用自 Mars
引用自 Ace♣
What?

What is it you don't understand? Is it the words individually, or the words combined? Do you understand that I'm speaking English(that was meant to be insulting, but I'm gonna argue that it isn't because it's sarcastic)?

Still triggered, snowflake?
The literal purpose of sarcasm is to hurt people. Maybe you meant ironically? That means you say the opposite of what you mean WITHOUT trying to hurt others.
MajikTowst 2019 年 3 月 19 日 下午 6:52 
I mean, yeah. It doesn't really matter if you aren't as sensitive as others or whatnot, because evidently there is an even enough split for this question to arise. Therefore, there are enough people who believe it to be rude or "toxic" that any kind or respectful player would refrain from using it anyways, because of the high chance someone may take offense to it.
Cobearzz 2019 年 3 月 19 日 下午 9:28 
No its not toxic, its a form of letting the people know "wow what a save buddy!" Only insecure kids get upset by this comment when its spammed.
Fighter of the Nightman (已封禁) 2019 年 3 月 19 日 下午 9:32 
引用自 Brock
It's rude. Whether they missed it by a fraction or completely fluffed it.
So yeah, in modern parlance "toxic" is probably accurate.
I can't believe there are so many betas in this world. I legitimately fear for my future grandchildren. You people are going to breed charlies. If you get offended by quick chat and legitimately think it's rude or toxic...

This other dude talking about if you didn't mean to offend them. Of course you mean to offend them. That's why you're doing it. It's a competition. If I know it irritates you I'm going to keep doing it because then I will win. This is a simple concept anyone that has ever competed at anything would get. Like dude, science fair. Chess club. Art competition. Spelling bee. Sports. Compete. Teach your kids to compete. Life isn't fair, and should you ever need to survive you need to have a competitive mindset. This is basic nature. Betas gonna crumble. Don't be a beta. don't breed charlies. Don't be brock.
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