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Abjuration Apr 12, 2021 @ 3:01am
This game is rigged, manipulated.
If you don't realize that I'm sorry.
If you don't see that since when Epic bought everything, some matches you're forced to lose, some matches you're forced to win.
How they do this?

Bounces are rigged, 50 - 50 s are rigged.
When you're about to go to the next rank, you get the most unlucky streak ever, bad bounces, bad 50-50 , bad team mates, bad everything because...

The game doesn't want you to rank up.
Or better
It want to makes you feel that you're almost there, you deserve the climb higher but no..

BECAUSE

If you climb the rank, chances that you stop playing are very higher since you reach your skill cap.
We all know that when we reach our skill cap, we're more likely to move on to another game.

EPIC DOESNT WANT THAT!

Because if you stop playing, they dont earn money.

And this marketing strategy works.... hell if it works.
More than 1 million players online.

The problem is that most casual players will never realize how the game is rigged. They just can't realize.

Streamers obviously don't have these problems. But hey, there's not a single one who shows " road to SSL" with random teammates and not premades.

This system of rigging competitive videogames is not new at all. FIfa for example openly admitted, not using the word "rigging" but saying that the more a player loses, the more the chances are that the videogame will support him somehow through victories.

People who always win get bored.
People who always lose get bored.

The strategy to keep players attached to a game is keeping them as close as possible to a 50-50 win/loss ratio.

That's the best psycological number to keep us confident we can get better, without demoralizing us.

If you guys don't realize that they won't let pure enjoyment preceed money earning from a company like Epic Games... if you feel this game is totally honest and pure with you... well, I'm sorry for you, you're in the matrix.
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Better blaming the others than trying to realise your mistakes. Good. It's fun how it's rigged for some people, but not for the others... the others who train, who try to improve..
Abjuration Apr 12, 2021 @ 3:28am 
Originally posted by Sacred Toothbrush:
Better blaming the others than trying to realise your mistakes. Good. It's fun how it's rigged for some people, but not for the others... the others who train, who try to improve..
This has absolutely nothing to do with my OP :) Stick to the topic if you want to bring something useful to the discussion. Training and improving is not what I'm talking about. Realizing own mistakes is not what I'm discussing here. They are important things for sure, but nothing to do with my topic.
SunSpear0517 Apr 12, 2021 @ 3:45am 
uninstall man i say this to everyone, the game has no balance no half decent matchmaking. Unless you are 5% top players that can carry anything under champion solo this game is a living hell. Also 1 million people online is a joke, i have had times where i met the same people 5 times out of 10 games. Just boosted numbers to make it seem this game is played like crazy.
Originally posted by Green Theater:
Originally posted by Sacred Toothbrush:
Better blaming the others than trying to realise your mistakes. Good. It's fun how it's rigged for some people, but not for the others... the others who train, who try to improve..
This has absolutely nothing to do with my OP :) Stick to the topic if you want to bring something useful to the discussion. Training and improving is not what I'm talking about. Realizing own mistakes is not what I'm discussing here. They are important things for sure, but nothing to do with my topic.
I perfectly answered the topic. You blame evryone else for losing but you. People with good sanity know that the game isn't rigged.
Last edited by Toothbrush Cheapwood; Apr 12, 2021 @ 3:46am
Abjuration Apr 12, 2021 @ 3:54am 
Originally posted by Sacred Toothbrush:
Originally posted by Green Theater:
This has absolutely nothing to do with my OP :) Stick to the topic if you want to bring something useful to the discussion. Training and improving is not what I'm talking about. Realizing own mistakes is not what I'm discussing here. They are important things for sure, but nothing to do with my topic.
I perfectly answered the topic. You blame evryone else for losing but you. People with good sanity know that the game isn't rigged.
Oh jeez.... Where you did read that I blame everyone else for losing? If you read and understand what you read, I'm blaming the GAME also for giving me easy wins. Don't troll, write only if you can comprehend the text.
Abjuration Apr 12, 2021 @ 3:57am 
Originally posted by SunSpear0517:
uninstall man i say this to everyone, the game has no balance no half decent matchmaking. Unless you are 5% top players that can carry anything under champion solo this game is a living hell. Also 1 million people online is a joke, i have had times where i met the same people 5 times out of 10 games. Just boosted numbers to make it seem this game is played like crazy.
It would surely be the answer... I already unistalled and re installed 3 or 4 times in the past. Fact is, the game is unique and very fun. This is why many people keep playing it and prefer not to see the huge flaws and manipulated aspects of the game.
Red # Apr 12, 2021 @ 4:14am 
" I am good , teammates are bad, matchmaking is broken ", blah blah . Same **** over and over. YOU are the problem . As they say, " git gud " or play something else
2st Apr 12, 2021 @ 4:18am 
the only way i can enjoy the game anymore is to disable chat and play positive energetic music very loud.
Abjuration Apr 12, 2021 @ 5:41am 
Originally posted by Red #:
" I am good , teammates are bad, matchmaking is broken ", blah blah . Same **** over and over. YOU are the problem . As they say, " git gud " or play something else
Actually, the same ♥♥♥♥ over and over is the answer people like you give when someone points out that there's something wrong in the game.
You are too much of a fan for this game to have an open mind and see the dark side of it.
Red # Apr 12, 2021 @ 5:58am 
Originally posted by Green Theater:
Originally posted by Red #:
" I am good , teammates are bad, matchmaking is broken ", blah blah . Same **** over and over. YOU are the problem . As they say, " git gud " or play something else
Actually, the same ♥♥♥♥ over and over is the answer people like you give when someone points out that there's something wrong in the game.
You are too much of a fan for this game to have an open mind and see the dark side of it.
Ok . You are right . I am a huge fan . You pointed the wrong things about this game, HERE . Do you expect a fix by doing that?
Abjuration Apr 12, 2021 @ 6:38am 
Originally posted by Lovi:
I have never seen a comment any more stupid then this whole post.
Instead I've seen so many times people like you who think it's stupid what they cannot comprehend. Yes,yes, label it stupid so you will be able to sleep well without too many questions.

Some people just don't want to see through. Too afraid of questions then. I'm sorry man.
Abjuration Apr 12, 2021 @ 6:41am 
Originally posted by Red #:
Originally posted by Green Theater:
Actually, the same ♥♥♥♥ over and over is the answer people like you give when someone points out that there's something wrong in the game.
You are too much of a fan for this game to have an open mind and see the dark side of it.
Ok . You are right . I am a huge fan . You pointed the wrong things about this game, HERE . Do you expect a fix by doing that?
If too many people start talking about it and they lose players, you can be sure that they will do something about it to prove us wrong. They would have to face the problem.
Beldy Apr 12, 2021 @ 6:44am 
Do you have any real proof? Real proof that shows the physics being so inconsistent that it could only be that its rigged? Iv'e been playing since 2015, my win ratio has been 77.8% even though Iv'e been playing this game pretty much everyday for hours, for years now. That's just my experience obviously.

If things were so blatantly rigged, everyone would be talking about it, and when things actually did change, people did talk about it. Even casual players can tell when something happens that doesn't make real sense, it's physics after all. You just have to play for a bit to understand how it works. So that argument is invalid.

Everyone gets bad loosing streaks when they approach the next rank, this has always been a thing since the beginning, this has nothing to do with Epic. It's a combination of the pressure of wanting the next rank and not being good enough for it, yes it can be because of bad teammates too but in the case of 1s, you're probably just not good enough, you end up being tilted and even though at that point you should just stop playing for the time, you continue to play and loose.

You seem to believe that Psyonix can tell where everyone's skill cap is and prevents you from reaching it so you don't stop playing? If you think that's possible then please enlighten us lol because it's not. You act like everyone is stuck at a rank right before the new rank and are constantly going back and forth between win and loss steaks, obviously that's not how it works, people rank up and down over and over till they have improved enough to stay in the new rank consistently and then repeat the process, maybe you should elaborate on what you mean because the claim that they are preventing you from ranking up is just false, that's just people not being good enough but thinking that they deserve to rank up lol.

The final point that makes this post either a troll or the absurd ramblings of someone who can't come to terms with how bad they are is about how "streamers don't have these problems" you're kidding right? How would you like to explain this? You think that Psyonix actively monitors all RL streams and makes it so there's no rigging happening? You can't be serious.

You see alot of people complaining about X reason for why they lost on here, this is obviously one of them but I enjoyed it the most. For kids, it's a fun conspiracy but too many flaws to be believable by most.
Abjuration Apr 12, 2021 @ 7:12am 
Originally posted by Saber:
Do you have any real proof? Real proof that shows the physics being so inconsistent that it could only be that its rigged? Iv'e been playing since 2015, my win ratio has been 77.8% even though Iv'e been playing this game pretty much everyday for hours, for years now. That's just my experience obviously.

If things were so blatantly rigged, everyone would be talking about it, and when things actually did change, people did talk about it. Even casual players can tell when something happens that doesn't make real sense, it's physics after all. You just have to play for a bit to understand how it works. So that argument is invalid.

Everyone gets bad loosing streaks when they approach the next rank, this has always been a thing since the beginning, this has nothing to do with Epic. It's a combination of the pressure of wanting the next rank and not being good enough for it, yes it can be because of bad teammates too but in the case of 1s, you're probably just not good enough, you end up being tilted and even though at that point you should just stop playing for the time, you continue to play and loose.

You seem to believe that Psyonix can tell where everyone's skill cap is and prevents you from reaching it so you don't stop playing? If you think that's possible then please enlighten us lol because it's not. You act like everyone is stuck at a rank right before the new rank and are constantly going back and forth between win and loss steaks, obviously that's not how it works, people rank up and down over and over till they have improved enough to stay in the new rank consistently and then repeat the process, maybe you should elaborate on what you mean because the claim that they are preventing you from ranking up is just false, that's just people not being good enough but thinking that they deserve to rank up lol.

The final point that makes this post either a troll or the absurd ramblings of someone who can't come to terms with how bad they are is about how "streamers don't have these problems" you're kidding right? How would you like to explain this? You think that Psyonix actively monitors all RL streams and makes it so there's no rigging happening? You can't be serious.

You see alot of people complaining about X reason for why they lost on here, this is obviously one of them but I enjoyed it the most. For kids, it's a fun conspiracy but too many flaws to be believable by most.

You are an hardcore player, your point of view is from someone who plays it everyday and has been doing that for 6 years. You are speaking as a super minor % of player, because you perfectly know that most player base is stuck in gold.
This is a game where if you stop playing for a week, you're gone. You just can't keep up diamond or higher muscle memory if you dont play everyday.
Do you really think this is fun for a videogame, or more like a forced addiction?
You cant tell me about people go up and down until they improved, because again here, you are speaking of a extremely minor player base.

I'm speaking for the majority of people, and I tell you, they can not realize how the game is rigged because they dont play it enough.
On the other hand, someone who plays it too much gets an addiction to it, so first of all comes the psycological thing that the player needs to defend and takes the parts of the game no matter what's happening because he's now become a fan.
Also, if you play it too much and really want to improve, you do improve and therefore you do not see the rigged factors we're talking about.

About streamers it could be simple. Once psyonix selects officials or " over xxx subscribers" streamers, they could simply exclude their accounts from the algorythm process. They immunize them, basic programming stuff I guess.

To conclude, you seem to see as normal that the last match before entering the new rank is incredibly harder than the last one.
Then why once you reach the next rank, the game suddenly feels a LOT easier compared to the last match in the previous rank? How can you justify the fact that in every rank, there are players who are actually worth at LEAST 1 rank above, and others 1 rank below? If IMPROVING was really the only way to climb up, how in the world do you justify very bad players, even trash players, appearing in champ and grand champ?

your words " Even casual players can tell when something happens that doesn't make real sense, it's physics after all. You just have to play for a bit to understand how it works. So that argument is invalid. "

It looks like your argument is invalid here. Re - read... casual player... play for a bit.

A casual player first of all doesnt know how the physics perfectly works in the game.
A casual player doesn't realize if a 50-50 ball bounce at high speed goes where it shouldnt, because it's a matter of few degrees. A slo mo replay is needed.
Players below diamond dont do this. Even if they smell something is bad in a particular situation, it will just end with the match, and surely they won't write anything about it.

They can think it's just bad luck. They will not realize that something doesn't make sense.


I think you're putting too much trust into something that doesn't really respects you.
`MoNK Apr 12, 2021 @ 7:12am 
oh wow now the tinfoil hats are getting in here. can you go back to climate politics and chemtrails with your conspiracy please?
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