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Agent Zero 14. juli 2021 kl. 10.12
Epic Games ruined Rocket League - The new Fortnite to scam children
Seriously, Rocket League has become worse and worse, since Epic Games bought it. The community (which was already toxic) is more toxic than ever, you can't play two rounds in a row without being insulted. And what do they do against it? Nothing. You get banned for a couple of hours or nothing happens. And let's be honest: who cares? They create new FREE accounts and keep on going that way. And Epic Games supports this behavior by not doing anything useful against them.

Furthermore, there are more smurfs, as the game got free.

The DLCs are clearly overprized and a pure scam. I know that it is optional to buy them. I personally don't buy them. But it's nevertheless intolerable, in my opinion.

The blueprints market is completely broken in favour of Epic Games, to stop trading and increase the sales on credits spent on blueprints.

It's really interesting to see what happened to the game. It feels like the new Fortnite. Ripping kid's money out of their pockets, taking morally questionable decisions and focussing entirely on profit, while not caring at all about the community. Honestly, Epic Games is the worst. And this is the reason I prefer paying for games on Steam than getting them for free from Epic Games. I won’t support such an exploiting concern. Shame on everyone who works for Epic Games. Keep trying to get players on your platform by gifting weekly games. You won’t get me with that cheap trick. Their pathetic platform doesn’t even have a chat function. Great gaming platform, being unable to chat with friends. And it’s not new. They simply don’t care about their “community”. All they want is profit.

Thanks for reading. Feel free to express your opinion in the comment section and tell me if you agree or disagree.
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Agent Zero 15. juli 2021 kl. 4.23 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Wayshegoes:
Opprinnelig skrevet av Agent Zero:
Seriously, Rocket League has become worse and worse, since Epic Games bought it. The community (which was already toxic) is more toxic than ever, you can't play two rounds in a row without being insulted. And what do they do against it? Nothing. You get banned for a couple of hours or nothing happens. And let's be honest: who cares? They create new FREE accounts and keep on going that way. And Epic Games supports this behavior by not doing anything useful against them.

Furthermore, there are more smurfs, as the game got free.

The DLCs are clearly overprized and a pure scam. I know that it is optional to buy them. I personally don't buy them. But it's nevertheless intolerable, in my opinion.

The blueprints market is completely broken in favour of Epic Games, to stop trading and increase the sales on credits spent on blueprints.

It's really interesting to see what happened to the game. It feels like the new Fortnite. Ripping kid's money out of their pockets, taking morally questionable decisions and focussing entirely on profit, while not caring at all about the community. Honestly, Epic Games is the worst. And this is the reason I prefer paying for games on Steam than getting them for free from Epic Games. I won’t support such an exploiting concern. Shame on everyone who works for Epic Games. Keep trying to get players on your platform by gifting weekly games. You won’t get me with that cheap trick. Their pathetic platform doesn’t even have a chat function. Great gaming platform, being unable to chat with friends. And it’s not new. They simply don’t care about their “community”. All they want is profit.

Thanks for reading. Feel free to express your opinion in the comment section and tell me if you agree or disagree.


I will start with my 1st response to by saying since the game is free and you start with the octane and dominus which have the best hitboxes in the game that cosmetics are just that and they can charge whatever they like since you don't need to them play. This includes blueprints and any in game item.

Smurfs have always been around on RL and exist on any online competitive game. I currently play around champ 2-3 and if I play with my real life friend who is silver/gold it wouldn't be fun for us to play champ+ level players. So I do have an account that I play with him on specifically. However and don't take this the wrong way over time your rank is your rank. If you gave me a brand new account right now and put me in ranked at the lowest rank I would rarely lose a game probably none at all unless I ran into a smurf.. until I hit around diamond 3/champ 1. I wouldn't even care about my teammates because my skill level against anyone d3 and below is greater.

No chat platform I didn't even realize because I still use steam and or discord. But yes that would be a nice option.

Just remember this is just a game. You can add me if you want to play some games. I see you are around champ 1 in 2s.
I know that it is optional to buy all of that worthless virtual trash. But in my opinion this doesn't make it okay. Just saying "you can just not buy it" doesn't make it better. The prizes are just too high, not rational at all and what I am trying to say by this, is that they don't care at all about their community. It's only about money. And this is kind of sad, in my opinion. Of course, business need to make money. But there should be limits. Brands like H&M or Nestle also get critized for exploiting people and children. You could also say "you can choose not to work for them". Yes, you can, but that doesn't make it better. And trying to get high sums of money for Fortnite Kids from kids is morally wrong.

I agree that Smurfs have always been around. But as I already mentioned and some other people did too, there are many more smurfs now than back then. Which is obvious, when a game gets F2P and you can create as many accounts as you want.

Thanks for your offer, but I honestly don't know if I want to keep playing RL. It's not fun since Epic Games bought it.


Agent Zero 15. juli 2021 kl. 4.30 
UPDATE:

I also contacted Epic Games, asking:
"How do you sleep at night, knowing that you support online mobbing, toxic behavior in video games and exploit children by ripping their money out of their pockets on purpose?"

Their answer:
"I understand that you're concern about the behaviors or anything that's not good for children. Please be advised that Rocket League is not part of our support so if you want to talk things about Rocket League, you may want to contact their support.

It's not just spending money, we make people happy about their purchases, they purchase games or items from us which gives them the benefit to play and they enjoy it. Not only that but we give discounts for it as well which makes it budget-friendly for players. "

So first of all, they don't care about the insults and the toxic community. They just the fault to Rocket League instead of feeling accountable for it. As mentioned, they only care about money.

Second, "items from us which gives them the benefit to play". How does a skin or anything cosmetic give a benefit to play???? This makes absolutely no sense. And discounts and budget-friendly??? Are you kidding me? 20€ for a virtual car is budget-friendly? or 10€ for a Fortnite skin? Are those the amazing budget-friendly dsicounts and deals? I can't even take their response serious.
quickER 🛠 15. juli 2021 kl. 9.27 
About bans for insults :
If you call "couple hours" 3 days, week, month or even perma then yes.
You have option to Report/Mute and few other Chat settings. Not mentioning that you can play with friend/s, Party-Up with someone you liked to play in your march ,or try find teammate on forums/Discord/Reddit,etc. before match based close on your requirements.

About smurfs :
You need to have XP level 10 to start playing Competitive - it's not much but it's there.
There are smurfs (or cheaters, or both) in most of popular multiplayer games whether free or not. People buying accounts - impossible to monitor 24/7.

About blueprints :
It's irrelevant, they exist because crates were started getting banned as gambling.

About DLCs :
Don't forget that you no longer need to pay directly real money like you needed to before.
It's same as you would pay with Keys back in the day.
If you know how to trade or what to sell for Credits then price is not that big issue.
Item Shop items are usually more expensive - sure 500-1000 Credits would be more "fair" but can't expect same price (would be interesting to see situation in alternative universe when it would cost same price with OGs complaining about low price after about 1.5 years 'exclusivity' - not gonna lie)
Agent Zero 16. juli 2021 kl. 11.25 
Opprinnelig skrevet av quickER 🛠:
About bans for insults :
If you call "couple hours" 3 days, week, month or even perma then yes.
You have option to Report/Mute and few other Chat settings. Not mentioning that you can play with friend/s, Party-Up with someone you liked to play in your march ,or try find teammate on forums/Discord/Reddit,etc. before match based close on your requirements.

About smurfs :
You need to have XP level 10 to start playing Competitive - it's not much but it's there.
There are smurfs (or cheaters, or both) in most of popular multiplayer games whether free or not. People buying accounts - impossible to monitor 24/7.

About blueprints :
It's irrelevant, they exist because crates were started getting banned as gambling.

About DLCs :
Don't forget that you no longer need to pay directly real money like you needed to before.
It's same as you would pay with Keys back in the day.
If you know how to trade or what to sell for Credits then price is not that big issue.
Item Shop items are usually more expensive - sure 500-1000 Credits would be more "fair" but can't expect same price (would be interesting to see situation in alternative universe when it would cost same price with OGs complaining about low price after about 1.5 years 'exclusivity' - not gonna lie)

As mentioned, the time extend of the ban is irrelevant. They simply create no accounts and keep being annoying. "You can mute players". Great way to look away as a developer. Just say that people can mute other players. Why is there even a chat function then? Also, I only play with mates. I stopped playing with randoms. But the opponents are toxic too. Not only random mates.

Getting to level 10 is a joke. Really. They will just amuse themselves in casual, insulting over there and destroying people, before switching to ranked. I don't know how this is an useful solution. And you really can't negligate that there are more smurfs in free games. This is absolutely obvious, seriously. Are you more willed to create 100 free accounts or 100 paid accounts? Come on.. please be honest to yourself. Free games always have more smurfs. You let them in FOR FREEE. They have no costs at all when creating a new account. Of course it is impossible to monitor 24/7, but not monitoring it all isn't a solution either. And making a game free, especially such a competitive game with an anyways toxic community, is as I and other commentors already mentioned an open invitation to smurf.

Concerning the blueprints: Imagine... there are games in which you only get items for free. Without any additional costs. Just through playing. Can you imagine that? :O It is incredible, isn't it?

About the DLCs. So you don't pay real money to get ingame credits? Also the keys were the same. You paid real money for them. Why do you need to change the prize? You could have the same prize instead of making it higher or lower. And also talking about "exclusiveness". Why not WORK and develop something new? Instead of reusing old DLCs which were meant to be limited? Imagine you WORK to CREATE more content. What a crazy idea.
quickER 🛠 16. juli 2021 kl. 13.05 
I will just react once again to blueprints and DLCs because I see there more misleading and misinformation which can be easier fixed.
Note: Below I edited quote to better see parts I'm replying to.
Opprinnelig skrevet av Agent Zero:
Concerning the blueprints: Imagine... there are games in which you only get items for free. Without any additional costs. Just through playing.

About the DLCs. So you don't pay real money to get ingame credits? Also the keys were the same. And also talking about "exclusiveness". Why not WORK and develop something new? Instead of reusing old DLCs which were meant to be limited?
About Blueprints = I think you forgot you created this topic about that game was better before Epic Games.
Now you write about free items - opening crates with keys was not free.
You used to have in-game drops items for leveling up and Twitch drops. Now you have Drops from completing Challenges, Twitch drops and as well Tournament Cup rewards.

About DLCs = No, you can also trade items for Credits - yes, same as Keys.
I don't know who told you or where you read that DLCs were meant to be limited - It was stated "may appear in Item Shop at later date".
I play game mainly because I like gameplay so I can't relate to "developing something new".
Sist redigert av quickER 🛠; 16. juli 2021 kl. 13.07
Agent Zero 16. juli 2021 kl. 14.03 
Opprinnelig skrevet av quickER 🛠:
I will just react once again to blueprints and DLCs because I see there more misleading and misinformation which can be easier fixed.
Note: Below I edited quote to better see parts I'm replying to.
Opprinnelig skrevet av Agent Zero:
Concerning the blueprints: Imagine... there are games in which you only get items for free. Without any additional costs. Just through playing.

About the DLCs. So you don't pay real money to get ingame credits? Also the keys were the same. And also talking about "exclusiveness". Why not WORK and develop something new? Instead of reusing old DLCs which were meant to be limited?
About Blueprints = I think you forgot you created this topic about that game was better before Epic Games.
Now you write about free items - opening crates with keys was not free.
You used to have in-game drops items for leveling up and Twitch drops. Now you have Drops from completing Challenges, Twitch drops and as well Tournament Cup rewards.

About DLCs = No, you can also trade items for Credits - yes, same as Keys.
I don't know who told you or where you read that DLCs were meant to be limited - It was stated "may appear in Item Shop at later date".
I play game mainly because I like gameplay so I can't relate to "developing something new".

I didn't forget it. But the blueprints made about 10% of my post. Exactly, do you still get those random drops? And you already had the challenges back then, didn't you? As well as the rocket pass. That's not new. True for the tournament cup rewards.

I never said that those DLCs are limited. You brought up the topic of exclusiveness. And also I know that some people in the community were mad that you can buy those DLCs again. I personally couldn't care less about if they are exclusive or not. I just said that you could nevertheless develop new DLCs, instead of using the same ones again. But it's always simpler to do nothing and earn money by reusing stuff.
Lurd (Utestengt) 16. juli 2021 kl. 16.27 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Agent Zero:
Instead of reusing old DLCs which were meant to be limited?
Opprinnelig skrevet av Agent Zero:
I never said that those DLCs are limited.
Agent Zero 16. juli 2021 kl. 16.36 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Blyatosaurus Rex:
Opprinnelig skrevet av Agent Zero:
Instead of reusing old DLCs which were meant to be limited?
Opprinnelig skrevet av Agent Zero:
I never said that those DLCs are limited.
Sorry, my mistake. I should have written "Instead of reusing old DLCs, which some people thought would be limited", as some community member were unhappy. Also, I could just use the sentence "Instead of reusing old DLCs". The point was not in if they are limited or not, but in the lazyness of these developers. Reusing old stuff instead of developping more new cars than they are doing.


Opprinnelig skrevet av Agent Zero:
Opprinnelig skrevet av quickER 🛠:
I will just react once again to blueprints and DLCs because I see there more misleading and misinformation which can be easier fixed.
Note: Below I edited quote to better see parts I'm replying to.

About Blueprints = I think you forgot you created this topic about that game was better before Epic Games.
Now you write about free items - opening crates with keys was not free.
You used to have in-game drops items for leveling up and Twitch drops. Now you have Drops from completing Challenges, Twitch drops and as well Tournament Cup rewards.

About DLCs = No, you can also trade items for Credits - yes, same as Keys.
I don't know who told you or where you read that DLCs were meant to be limited - It was stated "may appear in Item Shop at later date".
I play game mainly because I like gameplay so I can't relate to "developing something new".

I didn't forget it. But the blueprints made about 10% of my post. Exactly, do you still get those random drops? And you already had the challenges back then, didn't you? As well as the rocket pass. That's not new. True for the tournament cup rewards.

I never said that those DLCs are limited. You brought up the topic of exclusiveness. And also I know that some people in the community were mad that you can buy those DLCs again. I personally couldn't care less about if they are exclusive or not. I just said that you could nevertheless develop new DLCs, instead of using the same ones again. But it's always simpler to do nothing and earn money by reusing stuff.

Dont matter if they do Develop new DLC's anyway theyre going to be downgrade/ copy pasted(Looking at you F1 car...) as ♥♥♥♥ and they have audacity to charge 30 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dollars for them ever since the Epic asses bought them. Thats why they're bringing the Old ones back. Plus, the Rocket Pass now is Severely downgraded and lost its Value since it has 2 Car variants now, Boring Goal explosions and boring cosmetics

Oh and they Copy and pasted an old stage and called it "racing theme" when its now where near racing theme... by lazily adding black white checkered flags and a "race track". They could've added an IRL nasscar stadium to the game but no, they needed the Fortnite money from the kids using their mothers credit card.

this is where your 40+ dollar costmetics are going to... and everyone seems ok with it 🤦‍♂️

Surprisingly though the Neon Stage is the only good thing (and probably the remix car) the devs made so thats a positive out look at least :delgaze:
Sist redigert av 🎂⁧⁧Sneakydude555; 16. juli 2021 kl. 19.12
Corey 16. juli 2021 kl. 21.15 
"I know that it is optional to buy all of that worthless virtual trash. But in my opinion this doesn't make it okay. Just saying "you can just not buy it" doesn't make it better. The prizes are just too high, not rational at all and what I am trying to say by this, is that they don't care at all about their community. It's only about money. And this is kind of sad, in my opinion. Of course, business need to make money. But there should be limits. Brands like H&M or Nestle also get critized for exploiting people and children. You could also say "you can choose not to work for them". Yes, you can, but that doesn't make it better. And trying to get high sums of money for Fortnite Kids from kids is morally wrong.

I agree that Smurfs have always been around. But as I already mentioned and some other people did too, there are many more smurfs now than back then. Which is obvious, when a game gets F2P and you can create as many accounts as you want.

Thanks for your offer, but I honestly don't know if I want to keep playing RL. It's not fun since Epic Games bought it."


I mean comparing water which is essential for anything that we know of to live.. vs as you stated worthless virtual trash is a bit of a stretch? I wouldn't call it virtual trash I have spent money on the game and I enjoyed the items that I have bought. I have been able to use them to make my car look the way i like it, been able to trade with my friends or just gift them items both fun for me and them, I never felt once like I had to spend any $ I did so because I enjoyed the product they had.

I guess technically you are right about having more smurfs but I still feel like especially in 3s if you work as a team over coming a single smurf is doable. But that is just my opinion. Find 4-5 (use comms) people to play with on a regular basis. If 2 are on do 3s, if 1 is on do 2s.. Maybe make another account where you just solo queue and use your main to play with people for rank?
Agent Zero 18. juli 2021 kl. 4.40 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Sneakydude555:
Opprinnelig skrevet av Agent Zero:

I didn't forget it. But the blueprints made about 10% of my post. Exactly, do you still get those random drops? And you already had the challenges back then, didn't you? As well as the rocket pass. That's not new. True for the tournament cup rewards.

I never said that those DLCs are limited. You brought up the topic of exclusiveness. And also I know that some people in the community were mad that you can buy those DLCs again. I personally couldn't care less about if they are exclusive or not. I just said that you could nevertheless develop new DLCs, instead of using the same ones again. But it's always simpler to do nothing and earn money by reusing stuff.

Dont matter if they do Develop new DLC's anyway theyre going to be downgrade/ copy pasted(Looking at you F1 car...) as ♥♥♥♥ and they have audacity to charge 30 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dollars for them ever since the Epic asses bought them. Thats why they're bringing the Old ones back. Plus, the Rocket Pass now is Severely downgraded and lost its Value since it has 2 Car variants now, Boring Goal explosions and boring cosmetics

Oh and they Copy and pasted an old stage and called it "racing theme" when its now where near racing theme... by lazily adding black white checkered flags and a "race track". They could've added an IRL nasscar stadium to the game but no, they needed the Fortnite money from the kids using their mothers credit card.

this is where your 40+ dollar costmetics are going to... and everyone seems ok with it 🤦‍♂️

Surprisingly though the Neon Stage is the only good thing (and probably the remix car) the devs made so thats a positive out look at least :delgaze:
I absolutely agree with you on everything you said!
Agent Zero 18. juli 2021 kl. 4.44 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Wayshegoes:
"I know that it is optional to buy all of that worthless virtual trash. But in my opinion this doesn't make it okay. Just saying "you can just not buy it" doesn't make it better. The prizes are just too high, not rational at all and what I am trying to say by this, is that they don't care at all about their community. It's only about money. And this is kind of sad, in my opinion. Of course, business need to make money. But there should be limits. Brands like H&M or Nestle also get critized for exploiting people and children. You could also say "you can choose not to work for them". Yes, you can, but that doesn't make it better. And trying to get high sums of money for Fortnite Kids from kids is morally wrong.

I agree that Smurfs have always been around. But as I already mentioned and some other people did too, there are many more smurfs now than back then. Which is obvious, when a game gets F2P and you can create as many accounts as you want.

Thanks for your offer, but I honestly don't know if I want to keep playing RL. It's not fun since Epic Games bought it."


I mean comparing water which is essential for anything that we know of to live.. vs as you stated worthless virtual trash is a bit of a stretch? I wouldn't call it virtual trash I have spent money on the game and I enjoyed the items that I have bought. I have been able to use them to make my car look the way i like it, been able to trade with my friends or just gift them items both fun for me and them, I never felt once like I had to spend any $ I did so because I enjoyed the product they had.

I guess technically you are right about having more smurfs but I still feel like especially in 3s if you work as a team over coming a single smurf is doable. But that is just my opinion. Find 4-5 (use comms) people to play with on a regular basis. If 2 are on do 3s, if 1 is on do 2s.. Maybe make another account where you just solo queue and use your main to play with people for rank?

It's great that you had fun with the cars and the cosmetics, but they are still virutal cosmetics. That's what we mean. I ain't saying that you can't enjoy them, but the problem is, developers can, as we see in Rocket League, abuste the fact that these items are non-existant. Can you imagine the profit margin on such products? It's just a car that they developed once 5 years ago or so and they can sell endless amounts of it, because it is virtual. They don't have to produce them or anything similar. Nevertheless, they prizes are incredibly high, because people buy the cars. Do you know what I mean?

You are telling me you can beat a smurf in 3s? First of all, it depends on the level of the smurf, and also on the rank of the other players. Let's say, you are champ 1? You play with your two champ 1 mates against 2 champ 1 and 1 smurf that is grand champ. You really think you can win that? If you win, it's because they are using you as training. You might win in casual, but unlikely in ranked.
I may sign under every word as an old player with more than 1k hours. Epic made the great game feel like soulless plastic ♥♥♥♥
SunSpear0517 20. juli 2021 kl. 12.19 
This game is dead , it died long ago Epic just made it a cashcow this was known since the day Epic decided to take over.
swampcharlie (Utestengt) 20. juli 2021 kl. 13.11 
the game has not changed, its exactly the same. joined in 2015. nothing is different. sure no crates. cosmetic crap is whatever... game play is still dead on. now we got lots of careless players. adapt,
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