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How do i fix the heavy car bug? Im using a PS4 controller with usb cable. My car rotational speed and handling can sometimes feel stiff
Ive got thousands of hours playtime and its still a recurring thing for me, ive looked up posts on the matter and it seems to keep coming back. I know its not a placebo effect its a genuine issue, im begining to think it may be something to do with my computer. I have a gtx 1060 6GB and my graphics are actually set quite low although max fps is at 250. Its like a really delayed input lag, it comes and goes i am not really sure what causes it.
I believe that my computer might be having a hard time with background processes (which i try to limit and have hardly anything running) so all the focus is on rocket league. I have a 100Hz 3D monitor for my pc which is maybe 5 years old at least and ive been told my monitor could be the problem but its driving me up the wall (quite literally).

If anyone has a fix it would be really appreciated as i cant seem to get a proper answer and to be quite honest i dont think psyonix has ever fixed the issue for others (there is not many who experience it which is unfortunate as im sure it would ring their bells).

Could maybe messing around with the geforce experience settings for rocket league help me out? By setting all focus on rocket league when launced etc

Thanks if you read this far!
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rkrams 2018 年 11 月 27 日 上午 8:32 
引用自 DoKo_O
引用自 rkrams1989
Input latency decreases as fps increases so its not just placebo.
still not placebo my dude. all those pro players must be placeboing hard aswell

Ya i meant its not placebo.
You might be interested in a older Rocket Science video before you start tearing each other apart ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyGigGSsO5Y
(Hope that's the correct one, my connection is too flaky to check it at the moment)

Stability is of course also important, butI don't want to get dragged into your fight about the difference being noticeable or not...
rkrams 2018 年 11 月 27 日 上午 8:36 
You can check with bakkesmod mod that more frames is decreased input latency hence better responsiveness.
Even between 100 frames and 160 frames there's a difference.

Is it compulsory to be a better player no, but it certainly helps a bit.
encardido 2018 年 11 月 27 日 上午 9:15 
You might be interested in a older Rocket Science video before you start tearing each other apart ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyGigGSsO5Y
(Hope that's the correct one, my connection is too flaky to check it at the moment)

Stability is of course also important, butI don't want to get dragged into your fight about the difference being noticeable or not...
Nice video, but even that video is purely focused on the game settings.
Leaving out, out of the game settings like triple buffering or pre-rendered frames which lots of people don't even know if they have on or what they actually do, causing aditional latency.

Just a simple hardware example, there are monitors that output 144hz but only have hdmi or dual link dvi input, which can only carry 60hz and 120hz respectively when they are meant to work at a refresh rate that they have no input capability for, causing uneven visual experience if you actually have a machine that can output constant 144 fps.
There are so many things that should be taken into account, (not that the guy on the video didn't cover things well from the game standpoint) that just saying "raise the roof" solves everything and works for everything and everyone.

Btw Brawndo, I'm not dragging you into the discussion.
I'm actually done.
Nikki 2018 年 11 月 27 日 上午 9:37 
引用自 Tyres
Your GPU may be capable of hitting 250 FPS but look at Windows 10 Task Manager - if your GPU is hitting 100% utilization that may be causing this "heavy car bug" thing.
This only works if you have WIndows 10 1709 or later. If you're on an older version of WIndows you won't see GPU in task manager, and will need to use 3rd party software like GPUz, Hwmonitor, or similar.

Also my GPU usage doesn't go over around 40-45% on max settings, I have it limited to the monitor refresh rate of 120, and at times it feels like the car is a brick on wheels.

引用自 Tyres
So set the Max FPS to be your monitor maximum + 8. The input lag difference between that and 250 FPS is below human detectability anyway. Plus you'll be saving electricity and increasing the life expectancy of your GPU.
The human eye can see far more than 23-30 FPS. Each eye is different so, and so is the amount of FPS a person can see. The false information that the eye can't see more than that started with animation, and later tv/movies. It's not the the eye can't see more than FPS that that, it's that you need at least around 23/4 fps to see it as a smooth motion/animation. It also depends on the lighting for how many FPS the eye can see. In some conditions it is in the hundreds of herts a second.
最后由 Nikki 编辑于; 2018 年 11 月 27 日 上午 9:39
LogiKLee 2018 年 11 月 28 日 上午 1:17 
引用自 Dad of the year
Ive got thousands of hours playtime and its still a recurring thing for me, ive looked up posts on the matter and it seems to keep coming back. I know its not a placebo effect its a genuine issue, im begining to think it may be something to do with my computer. I have a gtx 1060 6GB and my graphics are actually set quite low although max fps is at 250. Its like a really delayed input lag, it comes and goes i am not really sure what causes it.
I believe that my computer might be having a hard time with background processes (which i try to limit and have hardly anything running) so all the focus is on rocket league. I have a 100Hz 3D monitor for my pc which is maybe 5 years old at least and ive been told my monitor could be the problem but its driving me up the wall (quite literally).

If anyone has a fix it would be really appreciated as i cant seem to get a proper answer and to be quite honest i dont think psyonix has ever fixed the issue for others (there is not many who experience it which is unfortunate as im sure it would ring their bells).

Could maybe messing around with the geforce experience settings for rocket league help me out? By setting all focus on rocket league when launced etc

Thanks if you read this far!
Use another Ps4 controller if you can.try using other usb ports. Use usb ports in the back on the MB. Update all drivers. There is a reset button on the Ps4 controller its a tiny hole by the left trigger right next to the screw. push that for a second and try again. msg me if still having issues..i have delt with this stupid bug a few times over :(
Dadinareasonablypricedcar 2018 年 11 月 28 日 上午 10:14 
引用自 AMBUSHMYMANBUSH
引用自 Dad of the year
Ive got thousands of hours playtime and its still a recurring thing for me, ive looked up posts on the matter and it seems to keep coming back. I know its not a placebo effect its a genuine issue, im begining to think it may be something to do with my computer. I have a gtx 1060 6GB and my graphics are actually set quite low although max fps is at 250. Its like a really delayed input lag, it comes and goes i am not really sure what causes it.
I believe that my computer might be having a hard time with background processes (which i try to limit and have hardly anything running) so all the focus is on rocket league. I have a 100Hz 3D monitor for my pc which is maybe 5 years old at least and ive been told my monitor could be the problem but its driving me up the wall (quite literally).

If anyone has a fix it would be really appreciated as i cant seem to get a proper answer and to be quite honest i dont think psyonix has ever fixed the issue for others (there is not many who experience it which is unfortunate as im sure it would ring their bells).

Could maybe messing around with the geforce experience settings for rocket league help me out? By setting all focus on rocket league when launced etc

Thanks if you read this far!
Use another Ps4 controller if you can.try using other usb ports. Use usb ports in the back on the MB. Update all drivers. There is a reset button on the Ps4 controller its a tiny hole by the left trigger right next to the screw. push that for a second and try again. msg me if still having issues..i have delt with this stupid bug a few times over :(
Yeah i will let you know, it seems the usb ports around the back of my pc helped relieve the issue for awhile in the past but it came back, glad im not the only one that knows it isnt a placebo. Ive got over 5000 hours rocket league clocked and i know when my games not behaving properly, i love using the ps4 controller but hate that im using a cable to play. Unfortunately my pc cannot support bluetooth so i would have to invest in one of the sony adapters and packs for the controller to be able to recharge it.
LogiKLee 2018 年 11 月 28 日 上午 11:01 
引用自 Dad of the year
引用自 AMBUSHMYMANBUSH
Use another Ps4 controller if you can.try using other usb ports. Use usb ports in the back on the MB. Update all drivers. There is a reset button on the Ps4 controller its a tiny hole by the left trigger right next to the screw. push that for a second and try again. msg me if still having issues..i have delt with this stupid bug a few times over :(
Yeah i will let you know, it seems the usb ports around the back of my pc helped relieve the issue for awhile in the past but it came back, glad im not the only one that knows it isnt a placebo. Ive got over 5000 hours rocket league clocked and i know when my games not behaving properly, i love using the ps4 controller but hate that im using a cable to play. Unfortunately my pc cannot support bluetooth so i would have to invest in one of the sony adapters and packs for the controller to be able to recharge it.
no need for bluetooth just use a charging cord less input lag also using a cable....like 8bucks for a good one 3ft-10ft they stay in the controller well also and try to use the same usb port. use the red port in the back of the case also.
最后由 LogiKLee 编辑于; 2018 年 11 月 28 日 上午 11:03
DoKo_O 2018 年 11 月 28 日 上午 11:54 
引用自 Dad of the year
引用自 AMBUSHMYMANBUSH
Use another Ps4 controller if you can.try using other usb ports. Use usb ports in the back on the MB. Update all drivers. There is a reset button on the Ps4 controller its a tiny hole by the left trigger right next to the screw. push that for a second and try again. msg me if still having issues..i have delt with this stupid bug a few times over :(
Yeah i will let you know, it seems the usb ports around the back of my pc helped relieve the issue for awhile in the past but it came back, glad im not the only one that knows it isnt a placebo. Ive got over 5000 hours rocket league clocked and i know when my games not behaving properly, i love using the ps4 controller but hate that im using a cable to play. Unfortunately my pc cannot support bluetooth so i would have to invest in one of the sony adapters and packs for the controller to be able to recharge it.
well i hate to break it to you, but it is placebo, there is no proof of any heavy car bugs out there. and of course, using usb slots which are not directly on the board can cause input lag, same as usb 2.0 and 3.0

also, if you complain about heavy car bug, dont plan on playing wireless, because that will just increase input lag
Mosibfu 2018 年 11 月 28 日 下午 12:16 
i have that exact same gfx card.. how about you turn your graphics up way high.. the low settings may actually cause the card to go into a low power state (since barely used). Also in windows "Power Options" put it in high performance mode to also reduce "low power state" triggering,
Dadinareasonablypricedcar 2018 年 12 月 2 日 上午 6:50 
引用自 Mosibfu
i have that exact same gfx card.. how about you turn your graphics up way high.. the low settings may actually cause the card to go into a low power state (since barely used). Also in windows "Power Options" put it in high performance mode to also reduce "low power state" triggering,
Good idea i will give it a try
WZY 2018 年 12 月 4 日 上午 9:33 
Ah Doko the Professor hahhahahahah
0451 2018 年 12 月 4 日 下午 1:56 
引用自 NemesiZ
Ah Doko the Professor hahhahahahah

Heavy Car Bug needs to be proven true by you, Proffessor.
DoKo_O 2018 年 12 月 4 日 下午 2:30 
引用自 S A U S A G E
引用自 NemesiZ
Ah Doko the Professor hahhahahahah

Heavy Car Bug needs to be proven true by you, Proffessor.
yep. looks like i made him upset in the other thread about it. he was bragging about his rank and playtime and justified the bug with it lol
Crunchy[Daz] 2018 年 12 月 4 日 下午 8:21 
引用自 DoKo_O
引用自 HOSS OF PAIN
Input latency is different than raw framerate processing, more frames does not mean better everything.

The game only feels as “good” as the visual results you get, which are heavily influenced by the frame pacing and fps/hz match.
Setting max frames will not give you max frames constantly, your performance is constantly fluctuating which will create an uneven result specially when the computer is at strain for whatever reason.

V-sync is also different from what frame limiting the game has, which will not influence input latency. V-sync will create input delay, the game frame limiter will not.
like i said, you can argue all you want, i know that those extra frames are not displayed, but the game still runs better and it will be more responsive. try it instead of arguing, i have my experience and hence made my decision like many other people to play on max frame slider to have the fastest and best feel i can get possibly

1. You don't understand what a Placebo is. That feeling you get of it being more responsive? Thats the placebo! Thats the entire concept of the placebo, you thinking/feeling something is happening when its not. So saying "But i feel it!" doesn't mean ♥♥♥♥, cause thats the placebo.

2. You don't understand how computers run games. I'm not gonna go into detail about frame rates, frame pacing and responsivenes, thats been done here already.
最后由 Crunchy[Daz] 编辑于; 2018 年 12 月 4 日 下午 8:25
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