why do people still go for boost on kickoff instead of defending the goal?

[Noog]

There's zero reason to go for the boost on your own side at the very begining of a match, but even at platinum 3 people are still doing it, I don't understand

[BodyPolitic]

A bad kickoff is a bad kickoff, no excuses. The only way a person can grab a corner boost is if the lead is trying to cut some hard angle and either barely misses the ball completely or there is some extreme ceiling bounce which (due to my lack of skill) I just judge as bad luck and move on to the next play.

[Helios]

There are two possible bad ways how kickoff can go. 1) ball flies deep to your half or even to net...definitely very bad kickoff, your fault. 2) Kickoff is blocked, and then its fight between followers, if there are any. You can still win kickoff with ball going like 2-3 meters into enemy half, so your follower cant do anything while enemy has clear shot. Thats why i still prefer to stay in goal at kickoff. (or follow at doubles and pray :) )

[Noog]

GeneralVeers の投稿を引用：

WE の投稿を引用：

what are you even talking about?

I'm talking about people checking the rear-view camera and seeing you in goal, and then I asked you if you would prefer that guy back up into the goal and bonk you in the front bumper, causing you to fumble the block and give up a goal in the first five seconds.

C'mon, you have it happen all the time: you're in the goalie spot, you go to get that tiny little center boost right in front of you, and somebody else decides to grab it at the same time and bumps into you. At which point NEITHER of you is ready to block a bad kickoff.

its pretty clear im talking about 2v2. there's no need for 2 goalies on kickoff.

[GeneralVeers]

Of course there isn't. Problem is, players get stupid on a very regular basis.

[Goughy]

Generally depends on positions, and whether it's standard or doubles. For example in doubles; both of you are in the corner spawn, one goes for the kick off, the other should go for boost. However if you both spawn in the centre, then one should stay in goal for kick off (the person that's further back, if there is one), mainly to stop an instant shot incase the ball stays stagnant and their second player reaches it first.

In standard however the player not taking the kick off and also is not closest to goal should either back up the player taking the kick off, or go for boost, generally the latter seems more worthwile, as it allows for a quick offense / defense.

Also it has nothing to do with taking a bad kick off, often the ball will just stagnate if both parties hit it the same way with the same force, it could be an amazing kick off, but if they manage to do basically the same thing from the other side, it'll sit in the middle. Or quite often people taking a quick centre will get the advantage on the first 1 / 2 kick off's, but after will be at a disadvantage as the oposition is ready for it, the list goes on...

[ChippiChippiChapaChapa]

WE の投稿を引用：

but even at platinum 3 people are still doing it, I don't understand

Even one of the best players G2 Kronovi goes for boost at start.

It makes seines to me but at the same time it don't. its a gamble.

[Noog]

Goughy の投稿を引用：

Generally depends on positions, and whether it's standard or doubles. For example in doubles; both of you are in the corner spawn, one goes for the kick off, the other should go for boost. However if you both spawn in the centre, then one should stay in goal for kick off (the person that's further back, if there is one), mainly to stop an instant shot incase the ball stays stagnant and their second player reaches it first.

In standard however the player not taking the kick off and also is not closest to goal should either back up the player taking the kick off, or go for boost, generally the latter seems more worthwile, as it allows for a quick offense / defense.

Also it has nothing to do with taking a bad kick off, often the ball will just stagnate if both parties hit it the same way with the same force, it could be an amazing kick off, but if they manage to do basically the same thing from the other side, it'll sit in the middle. Or quite often people taking a quick centre will get the advantage on the first 1 / 2 kick off's, but after will be at a disadvantage as the oposition is ready for it, the list goes on...

I'll clarify, I'm talking straight way kick off 2's or 3's. People are saying a bad kickoff is a bad kickoff, well sure, they're right, but it happens and at higher ranks? I don't have an opinion because I am firmly in platinum, few players make worthwhile ariel shots in my ladder and mistakes happen. I just wonder why players are going for boost at the begining when it's not useful and also opens up the goal. I only made it out of gold months ago when I realized defense could win me many games at my level.

[FredDie]

OsoMako の投稿を引用：

If your kickoff isn't good enough to prevent an immediate goal on your own side, then it's your kickoff that's the problem.

Thats dumb af...there is lot of lucky bounces during kick off, especially if both hit it "good". Suprising forum mod doesnt know basics.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

No what you need to do during kick off is to kick it to the damn side to prevent follow ups, heck, even corner helps.... Just dotn drop it center al lthe time :/

[GamingWithSilvertail]

FredDie の投稿を引用：

OsoMako の投稿を引用：

If your kickoff isn't good enough to prevent an immediate goal on your own side, then it's your kickoff that's the problem.

Thats dumb af...there is lot of lucky bounces during kick off, especially if both hit it "good". Suprising forum mod doesnt know basics.

Then you dont know how to controll kick off:/

[peetoe]

CraZy_SkuLL の投稿を引用：

AdBaient Effix の投稿を引用：

I was womdering the same, and made an experiment: in a game against bots (so that I don't trigger people) I went for boost at kick-off. Normaly I take the small boost in front of the goal, giving me a total of 45 boost and a safe position in case of a direct hit. By going to the boost, I took the small one, boosted to the boost and then rushed back to the goal. When I arrived there I had about 50 boost left and in case of a direct hit I wasn't 100% certain to save it.
So in conclusion, going for the boost means a lot of stress plus risk of a fail save for an extra 5 boost when I end up in the same position.

Maybe it's a good strategy in the highest levels, but for me it's pointless. The only people using it at my level, I believe, do it only because they "want to play like Kronovi".

even in high levels it's idiot go to boost at kick off, and every time i see my mate doing it... the first i think it's.....

Ok this guy it's a noob.... we almost lost...... and eventualy he make a lot of silvers fails until we lose the game.

ok mr im-gc-but-stuck-in-plat.

just judging.

I personally go for boost since it gives me a better opportunity to get a kickoff goal, especially since most kickoffs go up the wall. However, in ot it is a bit risky and i tend to stay back.

[lollars]

.WE の投稿を引用：

There's zero reason to go for the boost on your own side at the very begining of a match, but even at platinum 3 people are still doing it, I don't understand

because people think you can do good kick offs

[Thyriel]

FredDie の投稿を引用：

OsoMako の投稿を引用：

If your kickoff isn't good enough to prevent an immediate goal on your own side, then it's your kickoff that's the problem.

Thats dumb af...there is lot of lucky bounces during kick off, especially if both hit it "good". Suprising forum mod doesnt know basics.

Don't know why you necro a 9 month old thread for that, but anyway:
Kickoffs are NOT luck. It's simple physics. The ball bounces between both cars until it finds a "hole" where it can fly off instead hitting a car again. Basically that simply means that the car that is higher wins it. (In an ideal situation where both hit it at the same angle)
There's just a lot of experience necessar to adapt your kickoff to your opponent, but once you really understood how kickoffs work they won't go straight to your own goal anymore.


Nice tutorial that explains that way better then i could: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoTCU1fwBAU

One of the best kickoffs in my opinion is for example where you control to what edge the ball goes back to your side. You let it bounce it back to your own side by purpose, tell your teammate which side it will go and he already waits there for the ball with full boost. (And you go forward waiting for the pass) It gives you a very decent control over whats happening the first few seconds while the opponent has no chance to make a quick goal

(Nothing funnier btw then people in 1v1 getting one kickoff goal after another and then complaining about luck not understanding that it's their kickoff style that is too easy to beat)

[Gosta]

Because they suck. Boost > Goal for opponent

[Drinkcup]

This is why the game sucks. And it's Psyonix' fault.


*Psyonix ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fault