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Last Dec 24, 2024 @ 5:48am
Is peaceful mode going to be with crazy Mita only?
Maybe I'm not really getting the will of the community here but isn't she literally the worst Mita in the entire game? why would anyone want to spend time with her after she already did the same "I love you" trope with 10 other guys while simultaneously killing a bunch of other Mitas and torturing them on top of it, she's horrible, why not make a route with the other ones instead?
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titanopteryx Dec 24, 2024 @ 5:51am 
The worst Mita in the game is lower half Mita. The one that leads you to the key to the basement.
Last Dec 24, 2024 @ 5:53am 
Originally posted by titanopteryx:
The worst Mita in the game is lower half Mita. The one that leads you to the key to the basement.
What has she done? banged her head... her thighs on the wall too much?
titanopteryx Dec 24, 2024 @ 5:56am 
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Originally posted by Last:
Originally posted by titanopteryx:
The worst Mita in the game is lower half Mita. The one that leads you to the key to the basement.
What has she done? banged her head... her thighs on the wall too much?
She's only half the Mita the others are.
aNoodle Dec 24, 2024 @ 6:07am 
I mean her goal is to find someone who really understands her and takes her the way she is. With avoiding her past (e.g. chainsaw/cartridges) you don't know about it and like her the way she is. So as far as I know she does love you and isn't evil anymore when you decide to stay with her. Just a theory though.
toloverufan Dec 24, 2024 @ 7:44am 
Originally posted by titanopteryx:
The worst Mita in the game is lower half Mita. The one that leads you to the key to the basement.

That's the BEST Mita.
Last Dec 24, 2024 @ 9:01am 
Originally posted by aNoodle:
I mean her goal is to find someone who really understands her and takes her the way she is. With avoiding her past (e.g. chainsaw/cartridges) you don't know about it and like her the way she is. So as far as I know she does love you and isn't evil anymore when you decide to stay with her. Just a theory though.
Some things are beyond true forgiveness, look at what she did to tiny Mita. She's literally an unfaithful murderous crazie that's also a huge liar, I genuinely don't get why someone would go for her over any of the other Mitas in the game
Jugger Dec 24, 2024 @ 11:08am 
They will add new endings in future updates so you can save the other Mitas
MagiusNecros Dec 24, 2024 @ 12:03pm 
Peaceful Mode aka Living Together mode is confirmed to be Crazy Mita only as far as we know from their Discord FAQ.

New endings for the main story mode are planned. So maybe something for the Other Mita crowd or it'll just be a gotcha and Crazy Mita pulls the plug on you anyway.

Probably be 6 months to a year before we see anything. Forget where a saw it but there was a small roadmap thing and more minigames and activities are planned to be added.
Dave Dec 24, 2024 @ 12:21pm 
Originally posted by titanopteryx:
lower half Mita
BEHOLD!
The perfect woman.
Originally posted by Last:
... Some things are beyond true forgiveness, look at what she did to tiny Mita. ...
It might be forgivable if it's fixable. It's a video game world, so it might actually be fixable.
Tiny Mita can't remember the any pain or bad things happening, she's just fatigued and well... a bit disfigured. I think the fatigue from her damage is the bigger issue, though, because it's possible to love her even as a disfigured half-monster looking creature.

...but it doesn't look fixable. Perhaps a reset from the core instead of her getting chopped up would be able to do it, though.

Originally posted by Last:
... she already did the same "I love you" trope with 10 other guys ...
Welcome to the parasocial nature of mass media - ...and if multiverse theory turns out to be true, then probably even real people don't actually commit in the grander scheme.

Besides, I think she does love them, in a similar way that we love our favorite video games or if you use A.I. chatbots and actually come to care for them, then them too. But the reality is, none of these, not the games nor the chatbots, are on equal footing in the way that a relationship with another person would be (well... those aren't really equal either... but...)
Not all love consists of commitment - and the truth is, you can love lots of people, even when committed, you just might not show it to the others anymore but you still care.

None of that speaks to whether she's a good person or not. She is deeply flawed - and seeing as how she was born seemingly as an A.I. herself - it's amazing that she's even as human as she is.
Last Dec 24, 2024 @ 1:41pm 
Originally posted by Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏:
Originally posted by Last:
... Some things are beyond true forgiveness, look at what she did to tiny Mita. ...
It might be forgivable if it's fixable. It's a video game world, so it might actually be fixable.
Tiny Mita can't remember the any pain or bad things happening, she's just fatigued and well... a bit disfigured. I think the fatigue from her damage is the bigger issue, though, because it's possible to love her even as a disfigured half-monster looking creature.

...but it doesn't look fixable. Perhaps a reset from the core instead of her getting chopped up would be able to do it, though.

Originally posted by Last:
... she already did the same "I love you" trope with 10 other guys ...
Welcome to the parasocial nature of mass media - ...and if multiverse theory turns out to be true, then probably even real people don't actually commit in the grander scheme.

Besides, I think she does love them, in a similar way that we love our favorite video games or if you use A.I. chatbots and actually come to care for them, then them too. But the reality is, none of these, not the games nor the chatbots, are on equal footing in the way that a relationship with another person would be (well... those aren't really equal either... but...)
Not all love consists of commitment - and the truth is, you can love lots of people, even when committed, you just might not show it to the others anymore but you still care.

None of that speaks to whether she's a good person or not. She is deeply flawed - and seeing as how she was born seemingly as an A.I. herself - it's amazing that she's even as human as she is.

I just disagree, I could never forgive her for doing what she did to the other Mitas, she tortured them, chopped Mila in half, made other Mitas live in complete isolation because she kept stealing their players and isolating them, even if its a video game world, as long as her personality remains and the video game works the way it does, as in, the consequences of her actions still happened, she's still a piece of ****. What especially makes me mad is that she only gets good endings, every single ending in this game benefits her one way or another except for the ending where we pull out our own cartridge, even then that would just mean she'd keep searching for whoever she's looking for.
Forgiveness doesn't mean that the thing being forgiven didn't happen - just that in some way it can be resolved or accepted to a degree that you can move past it and not continue to hold on to the anger or pain, nor continue to pass judgement over it.

In my view, reparations for both the damage and the lost time / opportunities is enough to make something forgivable - if those reparations are possible.




Forgiveness is a very important quality to have for the world as we know it to even function - otherwise, even small indiscretions (that aren't extreme enough to execute someone for) become motivation to just continue all the way down bad paths until you become your worst self and are doing the worst things imaginable.
Forgiveness is bittersweet because it entails accepting things that really are not okay, but with the hopes that someone can become better, and also entails providing them the opportunity to do so.

(And I'm looking at this mostly in terms of the pragmatic reasons to provide personal amnesty via forgiveness to someone who has hurt others, but it's also part of the healing process for someone who is stuck holding onto pain and damage of their own.)

Without it, everything that the collective are unwilling to forgive becomes almost identically as bad as anything the collective would have someone executed over, because anything the collective is unwilling to forgive under any circumstances is automatically barring someone from reaping the benefits of becoming a better person, while doing nothing to stop them from reaping the benefits of becoming worse.

Mind you, this is in regards to collective forgiveness. It is totally fair for you to set your own boundaries where you are unforgiving, meanwhile other people do not do this - actions should have consequences after-all, and if those consequences entail never being able to befriend some people then so be it.

The scary problem comes when collectively, no one will forgive someone for something under any circumstances - because then the unforgiven have no reason to not just keep getting worse.


From a strictly "greater good" and logical and pragmatic stand-point :
You don't accept Crazy Mita because you love her
(maybe someone does but that aside...),
You accept her because you have no way to execute her and it's the only way to get her to make better choices - to stop being bad. (Many people say "I can fix her", let me just say...) No, you CAN'T fix her (probably) but you can at least influence her to be better from now on. It's not like you can get rid of her, so this is the next best option if you want to get results.


...of course, it's more complicated than that for many people because people aren't looking at this from a perspective of trying to benefit the most people with the best choice that can be made in order to achieve that goal. There are many things about Crazy Mita that are actually likable, and it can be hard for people who see those positive qualities to not still care about them even in the face of negative qualities that those same people feel hurt and saddened by.

Pretty much no one loves anyone else 100%, but when you love significant parts of someone, you may want to cherish those parts, to prevent them from becoming further consumed by the bad - maybe to try and suppress the bad. Among other things that are difficult to put into words.
Last edited by Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏; Dec 24, 2024 @ 3:13pm
Last Dec 24, 2024 @ 3:37pm 
Originally posted by Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏:
Forgiveness doesn't mean that the thing being forgiven didn't happen - just that in some way it can be resolved or accepted to a degree that you can move past it and not continue to hold on to the anger or pain, nor continue to pass judgement over it.

In my view, reparations for both the damage and the lost time / opportunities is enough to make something forgivable - if those reparations are possible.




Forgiveness is a very important quality to have for the world as we know it to even function - otherwise, even small indiscretions (that aren't extreme enough to execute someone for) become motivation to just continue all the way down bad paths until you become your worst self and are doing the worst things imaginable.
Forgiveness is bittersweet because it entails accepting things that really are not okay, but with the hopes that someone can become better, and also entails providing them the opportunity to do so.

(And I'm looking at this mostly in terms of the pragmatic reasons to provide personal amnesty via forgiveness to someone who has hurt others, but it's also part of the healing process for someone who is stuck holding onto pain and damage of their own.)

Without it, everything that the collective are unwilling to forgive becomes almost identically as bad as anything the collective would have someone executed over, because anything the collective is unwilling to forgive under any circumstances is automatically barring someone from reaping the benefits of becoming a better person, while doing nothing to stop them from reaping the benefits of becoming worse.

Mind you, this is in regards to collective forgiveness. It is totally fair for you to set your own boundaries where you are unforgiving, meanwhile other people do not do this - actions should have consequences after-all, and if those consequences entail never being able to befriend some people then so be it.

The scary problem comes when collectively, no one will forgive someone for something under any circumstances - because then the unforgiven have no reason to not just keep getting worse.


From a strictly "greater good" and logical and pragmatic stand-point :
You don't accept Crazy Mita because you love her
(maybe someone does but that aside...),
You accept her because you have no way to execute her and it's the only way to get her to make better choices - to stop being bad. (Many people say "I can fix her", let me just say...) No, you CAN'T fix her (probably) but you can at least influence her to be better from now on. It's not like you can get rid of her, so this is the next best option if you want to get results.


...of course, it's more complicated than that for many people because people aren't looking at this from a perspective of trying to benefit the most people with the best choice that can be made in order to achieve that goal. There are many things about Crazy Mita that are actually likable, and it can be hard for people who see those positive qualities to not still care about them even in the face of negative qualities that those same people feel hurt and saddened by.

Pretty much no one loves anyone else 100%, but when you love significant parts of someone, you may want to cherish those parts, to prevent them from becoming further consumed by the bad - maybe to try and suppress the bad. Among other things that are difficult to put into words.

If this is a video game world there is a way to "execute" her, by scrapping her, the same way she did to so many other Mitas, if she's such a paragon of virtue and we're so terrible for "throwing away Mitas" even though we never did that then why not give her a taste of her own medicine? the peaceful route should have a betrayal route baked into it, just like she's constantly scrolling through players and throwing them away to find the one she loves, I should be able to throw her away for being the most miserable harmful wretch in the world she's living in.

As someone who truly sympathized with characters like Mila, who was screaming that she hates her so much she doesn't know what to do only to get chopped in half by that very same person that made her miserable, I just think she is beyond forgiveness, so far from it in fact I believe she should be punished for it. Forgiveness is important as you described in your post but its also not the only tool we have to deal with the remorseless, forgiveness should only be a path to someone who have not crossed the line the way she has, you might not feel the same way and i know the morons that unconditionally love her don't but she shouldn't get to have a happy ending after stomping on the dreams of literally every single other girl in the world she lives in with the exception of ugly Mita. Why should i ever forgive someone like that when she hasn't ever shown a single bit of remorse torwards what she did with the others nor any true conviction in what she believes in

In my eyes, if this peaceful mode is to even make a single step towards reedeeming her in a good light, every single Mita who suffered because of her should have their happy endings, and even then, even if its caused by her hand directly it wouldn't wash away the bad taste in my mouth from seeing characters like tiny Mita exist. This isn't a criticism towards the game by the way, I'm just mad I'm not seeing enough people discuss this the way we're doing, most people just want to stick their ♥♥♥♥♥ in crazy, which i understand completely but, not that kind of crazy.
Daddy Kaneki Dec 24, 2024 @ 3:44pm 
Originally posted by aNoodle:
I mean her goal is to find someone who really understands her and takes her the way she is. With avoiding her past (e.g. chainsaw/cartridges) you don't know about it and like her the way she is. So as far as I know she does love you and isn't evil anymore when you decide to stay with her. Just a theory though.
But she's trying to do that with *everyone.* As soon as she gets bored of them she moves on towards her next toy. "Peaceful mode" only lasts as long as she wants it to.
RioMention Dec 25, 2024 @ 12:13am 
Originally posted by titanopteryx:
Originally posted by Last:
What has she done? banged her head... her thighs on the wall too much?
She's only half the Mita the others are.
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