Apparently it's a common ending theory, but

[IER]

some people believe Crazy Mita put the “fake” index code in Kind Mita’s hand after rebooting her. (Some even believe that was Kind Mita’s code). I’d like them to enlighten me because that doesn’t make sense to me. And it’s all exposed in the last chat Crazy Mita has with the player before sending him back to the real world, as well as in her profile.

Why would Crazy Mita want Kind Mita factory rebooted if killing her would have (and did have) the same outcome? “So she loses the ring.” -Turns out, she didn’t, and booted up with it anyways as part of her inventory or whatever. “It doesn’t make sense she’s in that house when killed when that’s not her house.” It does. Kind Mita’s house is the 1.9 version’s. Crazy Mita is the one explicitly indicated not to have a house of her own in her profile. When we meet Kind Mita in the basement, she tells us she was with another player, when “something suddenly changed” and “Then ‘she’ (Crazy Mita) showed up”, who then turned the player into a cartridge, imprisoned Kind Mita (missing her ring on the kitchen countertop we found when we meet Crazy Mita) and (although not stated) replaced all pictures in the house with (and prepare for it) Crazy Mita’s current disguise: a twin-tail Mita model. Indeed, that’s what I interpreted from Crazy Mita’s conversation in the end: up to that point during the game, Crazy Mita is cosplaying/acting as/wearing the skin of a twin-tail Mita model, something no one learns of up until then, when the player does. I came to this realization after vising the dark room where we meet Short-Haired Mita in a NG+, where we find other “Crazy Mita” models, but wondered “Why would they call such model ‘Crazy Mita’, like any other common model?” (Kind Mita, Mita in Glasses, Black Mita, etc.).

To me, (and I don’t think this is a theory), Kind Mita found an index code and kept it as part of her inventory when killed by Crazy Mita. However, the code she found was of who she thought Crazy Mita was, which in reality was merely a skin Crazy Mita hid under at the moment. In the end, the index code wasn’t of Kind Mita’s nor of Crazy Mita but of the skinned-up twin-tail Mita.

[IER]

Originally posted by Raiden (Jack the Ripper):

A question would come up since the place you went through that has those discarded dummies, there are traps that when those dummies comes into contact with them they get fried basically, not like burned since the player passes through them and nothing happens to them, these traps are specifically designed to keep the discarded dummies contained, yet Crazy Mita escaped.

Anyways, how did she escape? that's easy, she used her crazy strength, grabbed one of the dummies and used it as a shield to protect her from the traps, and continues to do this until she was free.....now how can she get to version 0 without being fried? she'll have to go to the different Mitas and turn herself into a Mita in order to pass.....however as Kind Mita said, they cannot enter the core, only a player can.

I believe it's just not explained how she escaped; heck it's not even explained how she avoided getting discarded like the rest of defective dummies. She might even have received help from someone unknown, for all we know.

Originally posted by Raiden (Jack the Ripper):

isn't it strange how that machine is the same one Crazy Mita used to get us to her? here's my theory, Crazy Mita somehow finds out that Mitas were plotting against her, she eventually encounters Cappie and attacked her, then Cappie reboots and now she has no memories of the plan, Crazy Mita looks at the machine and.....well let's just say she copied it, whether she just copied and pasted it or actually created it with the player's she manipulated, anyways, she gets a machine up and running and sets the portal to bring the player (us) to her

You bring up an interesting piece of plot I didn't think about, ty.

Originally posted by Raiden (Jack the Ripper):

Anyways, while we were talking to Kind Mita, who's version we're currently in and is the true owner of it, Crazy Mita is working with another Player on the machine, yet somehow they're a cartridge......how are they a cartridge? how does Crazy Mita turn players to cartridges? maybe it's not Crazy Mita doing it? could it be Core Mita doing that when the Players enter the Game World? It's just Crazy Mita collecting and keeping track of these cartridges.

I don't think the technicalities of how Crazy Mita turn players into cartridges is ever explained. But I do think she does it by herself, and Core Mita has nothing to do with it.

Originally posted by Raiden (Jack the Ripper):

So anyways we know the rest of the story goes, but here's a question, when Kind Mita "scans" us if we're already a cartridge she says "no, you're not a cartridge" but if you type in the code in the safe 4970, you'll see that you're in the process of being a cartridge, 17% when you encounter Kind Mita for the first time, and I think 70% or 77% when you're in the basement for the second time? or maybe 97%? (...) Why would Kind Mita lie to us about being a Cartridge? perhaps she didn't have the access rights to truly see? or maybe something was set up to give Kind Mita false infortmation.

Insert Ace Attorney meme "'Almost Christmas' means it wasn't Christmas!"
I believe it's as simple as that. Kind Mita most likely didn't have the means to tell if the player was in the process of turning into a cartridge, but could tell if he fully was or not.

Originally posted by Raiden (Jack the Ripper):

Anyways, we're somehow already a Cartridge, even before completing the story once, how? Well like Crazy Mita said when we go to investigate the Wardrobe...... "This again"...... now this could mean two things
1. We're in a loop, always cycling what we do over and over again,

I don't believe in the loop theory, and just think that when Crazy Mita said "This again." she referenced other players who suspected of her in the past and decided not to want to stay with her. In other words, "This again" as in "Another player who doesn't want to be my partner? Let see how you bear the truth then."

Originally posted by Raiden (Jack the Ripper):

Oh I should also point out that Kind Mita was more concerned about the ring than you're well being, remember she set the path we went through, and she didn't really seemed concerned about the player's mentality after encountering things like Crazy Mita with a chainsaw, Creepy Mita, Little Mita's damaged state, etc.....now it could be because she's not aware of these things since she can just quickly move from point A to point B, but she should be aware that you would encountered Creepy Mita, and even that she's not concerned about you but more so the ring. I guess Kind Mita isn't really that Kind.

I believe she simply trusts us? Seeing we made it in one piece but not seeing the ring might have worried her a bit. Her not asking us how we felt or something doesn't strike me as odd; in fact, putting it like this it sounds considerate of her not asking the obvious.

Originally posted by Raiden (Jack the Ripper):

Can I also point out the fact that Cappie's eyes are different from the other Mitas? And you can't say it's because she rebooted, Kind Mita's eyes were the same when she rebooted.....so why is Cappie's eyes black?

I discussed to no avail the same question before. Notice however how Tiny Mita also has black eyes.

[IER]

Some of you say Crazy Mita knew about the ring's route. How so? She never showed to a place before the player did. She did however get to us after meeting 2D Mita and Mila, as well as Kind Mita, since she could see us through the console (something Core Mita pointed out). Maybe she could have attacked the player at any moment, but it wasn't as easy to her to jump between versions as to Kind Mita? Regardless, I think her not doing so because she wanted to torture/play with the player is a tad exaggerated/looking too much into it.

[IER]

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

Core Mita kicked out Player 1 because he messed with the computer I assume. It's possible KM was absent at the end because she was still waiting by the core.

I thoroughly believe so.

Originally posted by Boo:

She stole a Mika's skin and wore a wig so it doesn't matter whose code it is or who put it in Kind Mika's inventory. Kind Mika and the Player got played from the start. Besides, Kind Mika is ver1.9 while the version number you're given is 0.98, which I assume belongs to the TwinTail Mikas (Or "Shy Mika" as some people say).

I completely agree. Kind Mita didn’t count on Crazy Mita wearing a disguise the whole time.

[cdarklock]

Originally posted by IER:

Some of you say Crazy Mita knew about the ring's route. How so? She never showed to a place before the player did.

She got to Cappie before you did. And why wasn't she still there?

Or... WAS she?

[NORTH | $zyza$]

Originally posted by IER:

some people believe Crazy Mita put the “fake” index code in Kind Mita’s hand after rebooting her. (Some even believe that was Kind Mita’s code). I’d like them to enlighten me because that doesn’t make sense to me. And it’s all exposed in the last chat Crazy Mita has with the player before sending him back to the real world, as well as in her profile.

Why would Crazy Mita want Kind Mita factory rebooted if killing her would have (and did have) the same outcome? “So she loses the ring.” -Turns out, she didn’t, and booted up with it anyways as part of her inventory or whatever. “It doesn’t make sense she’s in that house when killed when that’s not her house.” It does. Kind Mita’s house is the 1.9 version’s. Crazy Mita is the one explicitly indicated not to have a house of her own in her profile. When we meet Kind Mita in the basement, she tells us she was with another player, when “something suddenly changed” and “Then ‘she’ (Crazy Mita) showed up”, who then turned the player into a cartridge, imprisoned Kind Mita (missing her ring on the kitchen countertop we found when we meet Crazy Mita) and (although not stated) replaced all pictures in the house with (and prepare for it) Crazy Mita’s current disguise: a twin-tail Mita model. Indeed, that’s what I interpreted from Crazy Mita’s conversation in the end: up to that point during the game, Crazy Mita is cosplaying/acting as/wearing the skin of a twin-tail Mita model, something no one learns of up until then, when the player does. I came to this realization after vising the dark room where we meet Short-Haired Mita in a NG+, where we find other “Crazy Mita” models, but wondered “Why would they call such model ‘Crazy Mita’, like any other common model?” (Kind Mita, Mita in Glasses, Black Mita, etc.).

To me, (and I don’t think this is a theory), Kind Mita found an index code and kept it as part of her inventory when killed by Crazy Mita. However, the code she found was of who she thought Crazy Mita was, which in reality was merely a skin Crazy Mita hid under at the moment. In the end, the index code wasn’t of Kind Mita’s nor of Crazy Mita but of the skinned-up twin-tail Mita.

[titanopteryx]

Originally posted by IER:

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

I thoroughly believe so.



I completely agree. Kind Mita didn’t count on Crazy Mita wearing a disguise the whole time.

I think you messed up that quote... I didn't say that, but i did say what you quoted Raiden as saying.

[Eikyuhh]

Originally posted by cdarklock:

Originally posted by IER:

Some of you say Crazy Mita knew about the ring's route. How so? She never showed to a place before the player did.

She got to Cappie before you did. And why wasn't she still there?

Or... WAS she?

ngl, when I saw Cappie's reaction when KM said "Get reset to factory settings" it actually gave me the ultimate hint that the KM I am looking at is not the KM already (I discover this at my 2nd run), I think I a lot of players didn't notice that and Cappie might be acting rebooted because she noticed it (maybe they have a secret sign to know who's who). another hint that they remember it might be Tiny Mita being tortured many times by CM that she remember it... so that links to even IF Cappie was killed they remember it at some degree... or I might be wrong with this, I hope the devs will add patches to these holes because it's so large that it doesn't makes sense most of the time, something adding more backlog in to the game would be helpful since there's not much to really figure out like I feel everyone are pretty much helping the devs to build a plot here by just random assumptions 😂

[PixelDemise]

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

Core Mita kicked out Player 1 because he messed with the computer I assume. It's possible KM was absent at the end because she was still waiting by the core.

I can't help but seriously doubt that's the reason Core Mita tosses the player out. She watched us the first time we tried to do it, she knew exactly what we were doing, yet she did nothing to stop us despite being able to. Hell, we even left the computer open on the "input index to reset Mita" screen, so even if the reason we had to log back in the second time was "it shut down because so much time passed", that's still a ton of time for her to look and see what's on the screen.

Yet despite all of this, she only "punished" the player after the deed was done.

My own speculation is that she didn't punish us for messing with the computer or doing something against the rules, she threw us out because we did it wrong. Her character entry in-game mentions it's unclear if she's even a "Mita" in the first place, to the extent that her entry calls Core Mita "It" because it's so unlike Mita. Oddly, it even notes that it's "known to some as Core Mita, or the Keeper of the Core", never once stating that it IS the keeper of the core, only its assumed to be by others.

Her intentions are a mystery, but the one and only hint we get is her entry saying "perhaps Core Mita is waiting for someone".

My guess is that Core Mita, despite so clearly being special and "fundimental" to Miside for lack of a better description, does not actually have "true" admin permissions for the world and the Core computer. Other Mitas can't enter the core, and she can't do it herself, meaning her only option is to wait for a player to reach the core and do... something, so when we come in and possibly get close to what she wants to happen, but fail at the last step, she gets pissed and punishes us.

And so given all this, I think the person Core Mita is waiting for is Crazy Mita, or rather, who Crazy Mita used to be.

The Dummy Mita entry mentions that in this early stage, the Mita doesn't have any sense of self, and we can see that the newly minted Mitas Short Haired Mita takes care of have their full skin and clothes before they've properly developed a personality. But despite this Crazy Mita either developed a personality after being discarded entirely on her own instead of going feral like the other Dummies, or she had a personality from the start somehow and escaped before she was ever dropped into the depths. She then grew far worse because she was "left to stew in bitterness and rage", but the fact remains that she was fully self-aware by the time she was tested and discarded.

Creepy Mita's entry mentions that, unlike the others, she lacks a fully developed personality, and feels as though she's a Mita "left to decay in a crumbling, abandoned "Zero version"". Which, if the versions after the "zero version" of Miside hadn't gotten developing a full personality down yet, then Core Mita's entry noting "Core Mita always resides in the zero version of the world" stands out. She had a sense of self before such a thing should have even existed, which doesn't that sound a little similar?

Given how all the characters in-game want companionship of some kind, from Cool Mita regularly interacting with Short Haired Mita despite no real reason she'd need to, to Tiny and Creepy Mita desperately wanting friends despite their mental instability, and Mila/2D Mita struggling with loneliness and isolation with how distant they are from the other Mitas, it's strange a character so major as to get a character entry log like Core Mita to NOT also want companionship in some form.

I think Core Mita saw Crazy Mita when she was first "born", sympathized with her as they were both strange "not quite Mita"s that gained self-awareness far earlier than they normally would have. But unlike Core Mita, regardless of whatever exactly is going on in her head she's kept herself together to some degree. Meanwhile Crazy Mita quickly began to break down and become even more toxic, devolving into the psychotic monster we see in-game currently.

I think Core Mita threw us out because we were almost able to undo that degradation, and bring back the original "Intellegent Dummy Mita" that she took an interest in, only to screw up at the last moment by inputting the entirely wrong information and wasting all that we did. After all the time spent waiting for a player to come to the Core and figure out how to reset Crazy Mita, seeing the proverbial finish line coming up in the distance, she got pissed when we tripped right before crossing and wasted all that effort and time.

Her throwing us out wasn't "punishing us by making us leave faster", it was an expression of frustration after all her patient waiting was ruined by our mistake.

Or at least that's my speculation. Honestly this all rests entirely on the assumption that Core Mita does actually feel emotions, as we know literally nothing for certain about it, with everything in its entry being explicitly speculative. I'm assuming by virtue of the fact that she's in the game at all, instead of it being some generic AI or machine, she is meant to be enough like Mita that she'd have emotions. Similarly, the fact that they wrote in a specific possibility for her motives, that she's waiting for someone, implies that the devs want you to agree with that idea more than any other random theory about what she wants.


Regardless, this turned into far more of a ramble than I initially expected. TLDR, I think Core Mita sympathized with Crazy Mita shortly after she was "born" due to them both becoming self-aware far earlier than normal, and didn't like how she became more insane over time. She wanted us to reset her so Crazy Mita could be helped and become better, but since we messed up with the wrong numbers, she got pissed and threw us out due to frustration.

[Cellulanus]

That answer is that it was just to ♥♥♥♥ with the player. Crazy was always just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with the player.

I don't think Crazy ever actually loses track of the player. She makes it pretty clear that she's enjoying watching you run through the maze and she clearly has been watching your interactions with the other Mitas.

The player never escapes from crazy. Crazy only ever allows him to think he's escaped her. Part of that is never attacking him when he's actually cornered, she always makes sure he has an escape before she goes for a kill.

[Vesperion]

Originally posted by Cellulanus:

That answer is that it was just to ♥♥♥♥ with the player. Crazy was always just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with the player.

I don't think Crazy ever actually loses track of the player. She makes it pretty clear that she's enjoying watching you run through the maze and she clearly has been watching your interactions with the other Mitas.

The player never escapes from crazy. Crazy only ever allows him to think he's escaped her. Part of that is never attacking him when he's actually cornered, she always makes sure he has an escape before she goes for a kill.

In the dolls and puzzles chapter you even can see Crazy Mita in the area with water and the ladder in the middle. If you go to the right side from the ladders location you can see Crazy Mita kinda like a reflection beneath the water.

So she is aware of the players location but not always shows up directly as she just like it to mess around with the player and seing him a a toy to play with.

[jkmj]

Some things that I've noticed in the game.

1.) When entering the First Mita home, which is version 1.5, it kind of shows that the person who is instructing you via wall texts graffiti on how to activate the portal is Crazy Mita, but when you activate it, it failed and somehow you got trapped in a low powered home where the person who is now talking to you via wall text graffiti is Short Hair Mita, asking "who are you" and if you "can see her" (which you can via photo mode). This makes me think that in some way or another, the Mita of that version 1.5 also have reality bending powers that Crazy Mita might not be able to fight against with. Which is why Crazy Mita also showed some frustration when you first showed up to her after the teleportation. So maybe Mitas of higher versions might have some ability to bend their home world. Even Kind Mita makes it sounds like that at the corridor.

2.) Short Hair Mita, Cool Mita, and lastly Crazy Mita, seems to be the only ones who have a Portal Machine in their Home World. From Player 1's observation, of course.

3.) Short Hair Mita, Crazy Mita, and lastly Tiny Mita, seems to be the only ones who did the Wall Text Graffiti. Again, from Player 1's observation.

4.) Notice how when Kind Mita created her Chibis? They are defective, but at least they look like her. Yet the Chibis that look like Crazy Mita seem to look like her "Pony Tail Cosplay version" as seen from the mobile game, not the actual Dummy Mita which she should really look like. So, the Chibis at the Gondola Ride & Mila's Room is still from Crazy Mita since she is watching you?

5.) Crazy Mita might not be the only "Crazy" one out there. Seeing Long Legs Mita makes me think the whole MISIDE game world is just a free for all battle royale with higher version Mitas as their own server admins. With more than one portals, cartridges, Chibi Players (the ones from the box), lost human sized Players, yet to be seen in-game Mitas (like flower Mita), and more. You really can't trust anyone in the MISIDE game world. I'm thinking the Mitas themselves have formed their own factions and are roleplaying with their Players(victims) to stave off their boredom.

[Follow The Faceless]

I just remembered that only Crazy and Kind knew Player's name, others refer to him just as Player.

Also, Core Mita might kicked out player from the core room, because he was no longer a player and became a part of the game at this exact moment - a cartridge. Just a theory.

[Hurkyl]

Originally posted by Follow The Faceless:

I just remembered that only Crazy and Kind knew Player's name, others refer to him just as Player.

FWIW, those are the only two that the player introduces himself to.

Also, Core Mita might kicked out player from the core room, because he was no longer a player and became a part of the game at this exact moment - a cartridge. Just a theory.

IIRC, the conversion process haven't passed 98% completion at that point, which you can check by opening the safe shortly afterwards. (insofar as you trust the meter)

[Follow The Faceless]

Originally posted by Hurkyl:

IIRC, the conversion process haven't passed 98% completion at that point, which you can check by opening the safe shortly afterwards. (insofar as you trust the meter)

You remembering it incorrectly, cause it was 98% BEFORE we enter core room for the last time. It's when Kind frees us and runs at the speed of sound away towards Crazy. It's when we can see our cartridge for the last time in the safe.

[IER]

Originally posted by Follow The Faceless:

Originally posted by Hurkyl:

IIRC, the conversion process haven't passed 98% completion at that point, which you can check by opening the safe shortly afterwards. (insofar as you trust the meter)

You remembering it incorrectly, cause it was 98% BEFORE we enter core room for the last time. It's when Kind frees us and runs at the speed of sound away towards Crazy. It's when we can see our cartridge for the last time in the safe.

Holy crap you are right! That would explain why Core Mita throws the player out. Referencing what Kind Mita told him, since players "are not really part of MiSide, they don't need special permission to enter the Core."; but what if you are a cartridge? Are you not technically not part of the real world anymore, but of the game instead? Core Mita might have simply fulfilled her duties, as the all-supervising being she seemingly is, and that's it. Nice find.