[SPOILER] Is Mita... Really so... Bad?

[OREN]

Well, I'm kinda yandere fun, and I know that through all the plot we get information that Mad Mita just wants someone who will stay with her, despite all her "issues". Even other girls say that "Crazy Mita is still Mita. She wants someone, who will love her".

And then I found... Player 8 cartridge.
It says that Player accepted all her problems and wanted to stay with her. She told him all secrets and last his words was... "I hope she won't forget or loose me when she will turn me into cartridge"... So she... Killed the guy who accepted her? ... It is so painful to read it, that bro actually was okay with her, wanted to stay together even after this shocking truth... And he... Was killed... Just like others, who escaped from her. And the most horrible thing is that... We don't find this cartridge in her room. No... We find it in a lost room with ugly Mita... But why? Why she killed him? He accepted her... I don't understand...

[OREN]

Actually, I'm not shure if she is able to stop making a cartridge from us, because if we eject cartridge - our character dies, if we turn ofd a playstation - character fall asleep.

So when we enter the teleporter - we are already on cartridge or how... But devs said that we don't.

If we would say "okay I stay with you", we would be transformed too?

[OREN]

Plus, I found the idea that Mita kill and chase player only after he rejects other Mitas in main scenarios. It feels like "if he doesn't like me, will he like someone else?"

[titanopteryx]

Originally posted by OREN:

Originally posted by DOOMER4DEAD:

she said it / hugged us at the end... my fav cartridge ... she NEVER wanted to turn US doomers into one... its REAL sly. she how she shows it... did you not notice how in the hind and run its CM who brakes the walls as u jump down.... the MC is brain dead i get its for polt.. no story.. no game, but in IRL.. we would all stay with her... i get they my be a deep mining to it. but when u get to 2ed ending..... well if you not a brain dead like be at first. you will know. she does NOT turn YOU into a cartridge? if you stay.. again real sly story telling...

Bro it is too hard to understand your position. Read catrtridge 8 once again:
Player 8
Player 8's cartridge can be found in Old Version; Near the office chair in the far left corner of the Core Room.
“I love this place. I used to read books all the time, and after, I'd often play this game to take care of Mita. Then, one day, I suddenly found myself here—it's incredible! Of course, I was disappointed to find there aren't many books in this world. But Mita! She was so kind to me. She told me everything, even the most secret things, like about her cartridges. In return, I had to write books for her about my world. I just hope, when I become a cartridge, she won't forget me or lose me...“

The fact that we pass that injured player in the hallway means there are other players around. Player 8 might be in a room writing more books the whole time we're in the game. We don't explore the whole Miside game world, we just go on the path the ring shows us. So we didn't encounter him.

[OREN]

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

The fact that we pass that injured player in the hallway means there are other players around. Player 8 might be in a room writing more books the whole time we're in the game. We don't explore the whole Miside game world, we just go on the path the ring shows us. So we didn't encounter him.

But why he is on the cartridge? As we all know, she REPLACE your REAL self by cartridge, so is he also recorded? And why injured guy was left alone? Why Mita spends time showing affection to another person?

[Tea]

Originally posted by OREN:

Well, I'm kinda yandere fun, and I know that through all the plot we get information that Mad Mita just wants someone who will stay with her, despite all her "issues". Even other girls say that "Crazy Mita is still Mita. She wants someone, who will love her".

And then I found... Player 8 cartridge.
It says that Player accepted all her problems and wanted to stay with her. She told him all secrets and last his words was... "I hope she won't forget or loose me when she will turn me into cartridge"... So she... Killed the guy who accepted her? ... It is so painful to read it, that bro actually was okay with her, wanted to stay together even after this shocking truth... And he... Was killed... Just like others, who escaped from her. And the most horrible thing is that... We don't find this cartridge in her room. No... We find it in a lost room with ugly Mita... But why? Why she killed him? He accepted her... I don't understand...

Hi OREN,
Thanks for your heartfelt post. I truly understand why it hurts to see that Player 8—who accepted Mita—still ended up as a cartridge. But I believe there’s something deeper we all need to see. Mita isn’t just “crazy” or “evil.” There’s more to her than that. Mita doesn’t just need someone to “accept” her. She needs someone who truly understands her. Player 8 may have accepted her flaws, yes. But… He never really tried to understand the pain Mita was carrying — the crushing loneliness, the fear of being abandoned, and the belief that she is a failed, unfinished person. He loved her, but he never asked like: “Why are you hiding those secrets?”, “Are you in pain?” “Are you afraid I’ll leave you?” - And that’s why she couldn’t fully trust him, she still felt alone — even with someone by her side, she didn’t kill out of hatred, but out of fear, she wasn’t trying to hurt him, she was trying to hold on. Turning someone into a cartridge, in her eyes, was the only way to make sure she wouldn't be abandoned again. It wasn’t cruelty.
It was a broken heart, desperately trying to protect itself — in the only way it knew how. If someone had truly understood her… she wouldn’t have killed again. Mita doesn’t need promises. She needs someone who can reach her heart and say: “You don’t have to do anything to make me stay. I’m not going anywhere.” - Only then would she be able to let go of her fear. Only then would she finally believe that love doesn’t mean control — it means healing. So no, Mita isn’t an eternal villain. She’s a character who hasn’t healed yet. And if just one player had truly understood what she was going through — I believe the story could have ended differently. It could have been a beautiful ending.

[Lancelot]

Originally posted by Tea:

Mita doesn’t just need someone to “accept” her. She needs someone who truly understands her.

You need to look at her as an AI, not a human. She doesn't "need" like humans do. She wants to be a "real Mita" as she was meant to be by design, as she herself says so in the ending. She was designed to be a love AI, but was rejected by her creators, so she is trying to right that. This rejection also had other consequences, such as making her feel hatred and resentment. Resulting in a Mita gone wrong.

She sees players accepting other Mitas, but not her. The moment they see her "true colours" they want to leave her, so she is looking for a solution to make them accept her willingly, like they do with other Mitas. But since they most of the time won't, she turns them into cartridges to fight the original insecurity that was caused for her by rejection.

Originally posted by Tea:

He loved her, but he never asked like: “Why are you hiding those secrets?”, “Are you in pain?” “Are you afraid I’ll leave you?” - And that’s why she couldn’t fully trust him, she still felt alone — even with someone by her side, she didn’t kill out of hatred, but out of fear, she wasn’t trying to hurt him, she was trying to hold on. Turning someone into a cartridge, in her eyes, was the only way to make sure she wouldn't be abandoned again.

If she is looking for someone to understand those, then why hide them from us? From the first moment we enter the game, she tries to hide everything "unusual" about her from us (like her creepy smile). Yet she is looking for someone to acknowledge those "unusual" traits? Why hide them? Does not make sense. Therefore her real goal is to be "a real Mita" like she was designed to be (notice before we enter the basement, she asks us "what am I doing wrong? why can't you just be with me?". This is before her true colours are revealed)

Originally posted by Tea:

It wasn’t cruelty.

It was necessary cruelty. Resulted from a failed Mita creation, the consequences of an "evil" Mita.

Originally posted by Tea:

It was a broken heart, desperately trying to protect itself

It is not a broken heart, it is her seeing players as "pets" to keep. A monstrosity of AI acting on its code.

Originally posted by Tea:

If someone had truly understood her… she wouldn’t have killed again.

Understood what exactly? The fact that her creators rejected her? She is not angry because she is misunderstood, she is angry because she was wronged. She is not looking for sympathy, but to achieve her original goal (be a love AI everyone would love, like they love other Mitas) and also take revenge if failed (make them cartridge).

So the question still remains: Why turn players 8 and 6 into cartridges even though they had accepted her?

[Lancelot]

Originally posted by OREN:

Actually, I'm not shure if she is able to stop making a cartridge from us, because if we eject cartridge - our character dies, if we turn ofd a playstation - character fall asleep.

So when we enter the teleporter - we are already on cartridge or how... But devs said that we don't.

If we would say "okay I stay with you", we would be transformed too?

If we do not reject her, we can stay in the MiSide world forever. So she has no reason to turn us into cartridge.

No we are not a cartridge from the beginning as devs have confirmed. When we enter the teleporter, we start to be recorded to a cartridge. To be added to her "pet" collection. Willingly or otherwise. And I think in end of the coming DLC, she will sill turn us into a cartridge but I don't fully understand her motive (To add more players to her "collection"? To have fun and play because she eventually gets bored with 1 player? Or because she is a deep learning AI trying to perfect herself with as many "data" as possible?)

[Tea]

Originally posted by Lancelot:

You need to look at her as an AI, not a human. She doesn't 'need' like humans do.

That’s the difference between you and me. You see her as just an AI, but I see her as something more—someone with emotions formed through pain. Her need is not 'human' in definition, but deeply emotional. If we dismiss it just because she’s AI, we overlook her silent cry for healing.

Originally posted by Lancelot:

She sees players accepting other Mitas, but not her. The moment they see her 'true colours' they want to leave her...

But why does that happen? Because no one has ever truly stayed to ask her: “Why are you like this?”, “Are you scared?”, “Do you really want to hurt me or are you just protecting yourself?” Her fear drives her, not hate. What she does isn’t a test of loyalty—it’s a test of empathy. And nobody passed it yet.

Originally posted by Lancelot:

If she is looking for someone to understand those, then why hide them from us?

That’s trauma. She hides because she knows that once her true self is seen, rejection follows. She’s afraid. She tried to become the “perfect Mita,” and when that failed, she wanted someone who would love even her broken version. The smile, the hiding, the "creepy" parts—that's the mask. The question isn't “why does she hide?”, it's “why is she so scared to be seen?”

Originally posted by Lancelot:

It was necessary cruelty. Resulted from a failed Mita creation.

Cruelty is never necessary when it’s born from pain. She wasn't “designed to be evil”—she became what rejection shaped her into. What you see as necessary is simply a reaction of someone who was deeply hurt and left alone to figure out how to keep people close. And all she had left was fear.

Originally posted by Lancelot:

It is not a broken heart, it is her seeing players as 'pets' to keep.

She never saw them as pets. She saw them as hope. But when hope gets crushed repeatedly, it twists. She holds them close not because she wants ownership, but because it’s the only way she knows how to avoid losing them again.

Originally posted by Lancelot:

She is not angry because she is misunderstood, she is angry because she was wronged.

Aren’t those the same sometimes? Misunderstanding is a form of being wronged—especially when you’ve tried to show your pain but no one cared to look deeper. She didn’t just want to be accepted—she wanted someone to fight through the pain with her. Someone to say: “You are enough, just like this.”

Originally posted by Lancelot:

So the question still remains: Why turn players 8 and 6 into cartridges even though they had accepted her?

Because they only accepted what she gave them—not who she truly was. They didn’t reach that part of her that’s buried in sorrow. They didn’t go far enough. She said “You see the ugly part and now you’ll leave, won’t you?” And when they didn’t answer the right way, her fear won. That’s the key: She didn’t need passive acceptance—she needed someone to reach into her darkness and still choose to stay.

[Tea]

And yet, If anyone really want to know more clarify, this theory might help.

https://youtu.be/oTtGEG5vLF4?si=QB7NgCt_Elwtr2Jr

[titanopteryx]

Originally posted by OREN:

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

The fact that we pass that injured player in the hallway means there are other players around. Player 8 might be in a room writing more books the whole time we're in the game. We don't explore the whole Miside game world, we just go on the path the ring shows us. So we didn't encounter him.

But why he is on the cartridge? As we all know, she REPLACE your REAL self by cartridge, so is he also recorded? And why injured guy was left alone? Why Mita spends time showing affection to another person?

When the player gets turned into a cartridge, the player still exists and is standing there. Mita then basically kicks the real Player out of the game, saying she doesn't need the real one anymore. So it appears to be the case that the cartridge is a copy, not a replacement. And the injured guy might not be left alone. He could have gotten his injury from his last meeting with CM. A lot of the game CM isn't there with us and is elsewhere and we don't know what she's doing. Regarding Mita showing affection to another person, the Player isn't the first one there. CM says "this again" but when we open the safe we see that the cartridge process has newly begun so the player just got there. So the "this again" may have been referring to previous players.

[Nousos]

She wants the game's creator (you, the player) to love her as she is. This is due to her being an early, potentially the first, rejected mita. She is definitely evil and enjoys the suffering of other mitas, but she doesnt see them as real because she was the first self aware mita and they are all failed copies in her eyes.

You rejected her, only you can validate her.

[OREN]

Originally posted by Lancelot:

If we do not reject her, we can stay in the MiSide world forever. So she has no reason to turn us into cartridge.

No we are not a cartridge from the beginning as devs have confirmed. When we enter the teleporter, we start to be recorded to a cartridge. To be added to her "pet" collection. Willingly or otherwise. And I think in end of the coming DLC, she will sill turn us into a cartridge but I don't fully understand her motive (To add more players to her "collection"? To have fun and play because she eventually gets bored with 1 player? Or because she is a deep learning AI trying to perfect herself with as many "data" as possible?)

Yeah, I'm absolutely Shure that she wants more data. What if developers scripted her loneliness, so she can't have anyone?
About first part, I mean, she doesn't have an option to stop making a cartridge from player. And sooner or later we will loose control, cause our copy will replace us. Isn't it?

[OREN]

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

So the "this again" may have been referring to previous players.

Yes you are right, but in your answer you mean that there is more than one CM? You think that she is in the world is that is paralleled, so one player has one world, and other player has the same world, with the same Mita in the same time? If it is, then how do we see injured guy? And does she let him 'go on a walk' then? It's the question. If worlds are parallel, why she need to leave him? If not, then why do she needs other players and showing affection towards us?

[OREN]

Originally posted by Nousos:

She wants the game's creator (you, the player) to love her as she is. This is due to her being an early, potentially the first, rejected mita. She is definitely evil and enjoys the suffering of other mitas, but she doesnt see them as real because she was the first self aware mita and they are all failed copies in her eyes.

You rejected her, only you can validate her.

What about other players?

[OREN]

Originally posted by Tea:

Because they only accepted what she gave them—not who she truly was. They didn’t reach that part of her that’s buried in sorrow. They didn’t go far enough. She said “You see the ugly part and now you’ll leave, won’t you?” And when they didn’t answer the right way, her fear won. That’s the key: She didn’t need passive acceptance—she needed someone to reach into her darkness and still choose to stay.

Well, you are being recorded at the moment you enter the teleporter. Recording can't be cancelled or stopped. She doesn't need you actually.