The problem is Censorship itself

[Q]

its not about being a pervert cuz complaining about removal of erotica photos or unnecesarily criticism cuz changes they did with old characters and plot, it's about censorship itself, period.

People dismising censorship with poor arguments like "who cares, no big deal waht u perv?" or "meh who cares, minor boss, still asian np" are just endorsing, promoting, encouraging censorship in all forms.

imagine if DR2 gets a remaster in few years but blood is going to be black and the amount reduced and Chuck Greene becomes lgbt cuz reasons and the twins race swapped and get some decent clothes also Randy gets a redisign cuz the offensive portrayal and stereotype of overweight introverts.

None of that affects gameplay in any meaningful way, and people will say "who cares, game is gud, no big deal"

The issue is that corpo is doing this one step at a time, removing, changing, corrupting, distorting tiny bits, things that seem irrelevant at first but the changes occur until one day it becomes the norm and something "completely normal and accepted" to transform stories, characters and use censorship to please an audience who doesn't even play games, what? you want proof? why suicide squad, flintlock, concord, dustborn, saints row, forspoken failed?

i would be surprised if this part is exactly the same in the remaster, i can find so many offensive things to censor in the next scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6YlYK5hxE0

[Brown Bricks]

Originally posted by Berries and Cream:

its not about being a pervert cuz complaining about removal of erotica photos or unnecesarily criticism cuz changes they did with old characters and plot, it's about censorship itself, period.

People dismising censorship with poor arguments like "who cares, no big deal waht u perv?" or "meh who cares, minor boss, still asian np" are just endorsing, promoting, encouraging censorship in all forms.

imagine if DR2 gets a remaster in few years but blood is going to be black and the amount reduced and Chuck Greene becomes lgbt cuz reasons and the twins race swapped and get some decent clothes also Randy gets a redisign cuz the offensive portrayal and stereotype of overweight introverts.

None of that affects gameplay in any meaningful way, and people will say "who cares, game is gud, no big deal"

The issue is that corpo is doing this one step at a time, removing, changing, corrupting, distorting tiny bits, things that seem irrelevant at first but the changes occur until one day it becomes the norm and something "completely normal and accepted" to transform stories, characters and use censorship to please an audience who doesn't even play games, what? you want proof? why suicide squad, flintlock, concord, dustborn, saints row, forspoken failed?

i would be surprised if this part is exactly the same in the remaster, i can find so many offensive things to censor in the next scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6YlYK5hxE0

Jo is the exact same not a single thing was changed about her or the dialogue

[Shmider]

This reminds me of when Tales of Berseria's western port. A lot of people got bent out of shape over the game being censored. It was a huge deal at the time for tales fans. A lot of folks were saying the game was censored to hell and back. Some people claimed it was nothing like the original version because of its censorship. I finally looked into what exactly was censored. What dramatic change could have possibly made western fans really mad over it's difference between their version and the original jp version.

It was one cutscene. One cutscene. The game was identical save for ONE cutscene. The cutscene in question involved getting betrayed by someone and MC's little brother getting stabbed through the chest. The original depiction was tad more impactful because it actually showed a little boy getting impaled. The western version wasn't so "in your face" about it. All in all the JP version was better because it tugged at your heart strings.

I'm sure the game is fine. Get a hobby, dude.

[UNBREAKABLE]

Again, why do all these people monologue like some anime character? If you're going to parrot your friends at least sound original.

[Barf Vader]

Censorship is the death of art, and to see any amount of it in this remake is disappointing. While I don't think the things they've changed were necessarily justified, they also weren't really essential to the game. Times change, and to my chagrin that is an irrefutable fact. The original game is 20 years old. The kids born around the time it first came out are just now reaching adulthood, and their generation has different priorities. This has nothing to do with corporations silencing the voices of the artists. Read the room. This is just about appealing to a modern audience.

[Bankruptcy]

jo is exactly the same

[BeardedChicken]

who the f cares about in game erotica..

[Q]

Originally posted by Bankruptcy:

jo is exactly the same

i would like to see that, and i mean exactly the thing you see in good ol Original DR1, guess ill have to wait to see the videos cuz i refuse to buy a game that was censored to please communism, the irony... a JP publisher doing these changes to avoid offending DEI and communists.

[V I D A L]

Originally posted by Berries and Cream:

i would be surprised if this part is exactly the same in the remaster, i can find so many offensive things to censor in the next scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6YlYK5hxE0

It's censored.

https://youtu.be/63hFCiHEnEg?si=GkSBOj2smiNiFDbD

33:55

[Dr. Sexobeat]

If you know anything about Forspoken, you would have known that the reason why the game failed wasn’t because it was “censored”. It was because it had terrible writing.

If you know anything about Concord, you would have known that the reason why it failed wasn’t because it was “woke liberal garbage”, it was because the game had little to no marketing until it was almost time to be released, it was a style that tried to match Overwatch and Gaurdians of the Galaxy, two pieces of media that were really popular when they first released, and they thought that 8 years later it would have been a worthy competitor to overwatch and the other games. the hero-shooter genre is already over saturated, on top of all that it was a 40 dollar game when it should have been free-to-play or at least cheap to purchase like the other hero shooters.

If you know anything a Suicide Squad, you would have known that the reason why it failed wasn’t because of “sweet baby inc”, it was because it was another online only live service turd plopped right onto a hot side sidewalk and they called it a sequel to the Batman Arkham games, a series that was a single player oriented experience. It may have offline play now, but by then the damage was already done and the employees at Rocksteady are paying the price for Warner’s corporate decision.

I must say that I also don’t agree with changing the original vision of media, it gets kind of annoying, and the forced arbitrary inclusion just to appease an audience that didn’t even play the game and only play Sims 4, Animal Crossing, Minecraft and League of Legends makes me chuckle at their fruitless endeavor, but i think anyone else here can agree that most of us are getting tired of hearing about how games are being ruined by the woke plague, when it is only a small contributing factor, and it completely downplays why these games fail in the first place. I have no doubt that I’m going to eat my own words when this game gets review bombed for being woke as soon as it releases, but I’m sure once people actually play this game, they’re either going to praise it for the quality of life changes, better visuals, added content, and fresh looking environment, and competent survivor ai; or they’re going to criticize it for the lackadaisical voice acting, Frank’s ugly mug, visual glitches or other anomalies, and the new streamlined controls that eliminate the challenges of beating the psychopaths. And it’s 50 dollar price tag.

It’s your money and you have the right to not buy a game because small parts of original vision is now lost in this new iteration, but it’s going to be hard not finding anyone who will dismiss your argument like it’s no big deal when your only leg to stand on is that you’re anti-[insert buzzword here] and you make it like it’s some sort of boogeyman when it’s only a splinter of the overall problem.

[Vegantichrist]

It's not censorship. They made changes (that you disapprove of) of their own accord. Not the same thing.

[Q]

Originally posted by Dr. Sexobeat:

If you know anything about Forspoken, you would have known that the reason why the game failed wasn’t because it was “censored”. It was because it had terrible writing.

If you know anything about Concord, you would have known that the reason why it failed wasn’t because it was “woke liberal garbage”, it was because the game had little to no marketing until it was almost time to be released, it was a style that tried to match Overwatch and Gaurdians of the Galaxy, two pieces of media that were really popular when they first released, and they thought that 8 years later it would have been a worthy competitor to overwatch and the other games. the hero-shooter genre is already over saturated, on top of all that it was a 40 dollar game when it should have been free-to-play or at least cheap to purchase like the other hero shooters.

If you know anything a Suicide Squad, you would have known that the reason why it failed wasn’t because of “sweet baby inc”, it was because it was another online only live service turd plopped right onto a hot side sidewalk and they called it a sequel to the Batman Arkham games, a series that was a single player oriented experience. It may have offline play now, but by then the damage was already done and the employees at Rocksteady are paying the price for Warner’s corporate decision.

I must say that I also don’t agree with changing the original vision of media, it gets kind of annoying, and the forced arbitrary inclusion just to appease an audience that didn’t even play the game and only play Sims 4, Animal Crossing, Minecraft and League of Legends makes me chuckle at their fruitless endeavor, but i think anyone else here can agree that most of us are getting tired of hearing about how games are being ruined by the woke plague, when it is only a small contributing factor, and it completely downplays why these games fail in the first place. I have no doubt that I’m going to eat my own words when this game gets review bombed for being woke as soon as it releases, but I’m sure once people actually play this game, they’re either going to praise it for the quality of life changes, better visuals, added content, and fresh looking environment, and competent survivor ai; or they’re going to criticize it for the lackadaisical voice acting, Frank’s ugly mug, visual glitches or other anomalies, and the new streamlined controls that eliminate the challenges of beating the psychopaths. And it’s 50 dollar price tag.

It’s your money and you have the right to not buy a game because small parts of original vision is now lost in this new iteration, but it’s going to be hard not finding anyone who will dismiss your argument like it’s no big deal when your only leg to stand on is that you’re anti-[insert buzzword here] and you make it like it’s some sort of boogeyman when it’s only a splinter of the overall problem.

Sureeeee many excuses mixed with valid points to take the attention away from how much those publishers focused on DEI and its pretty much like the text some journalists will use to defend DEI and corporations... Ohhh wait there's an article from Forbes doing exactly same thing you did here, Are you Paul Tassi or did you actually believed all the information conveniently twisted and shaped to help making this "gamers are tr0lls bigots n haters, dei is good for you, they are not the problem, YOU are the problem" narrative?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/08/28/the-woke-war-why-the-right-believes-its-dominated-gaming-and-tv-in-2024/

truth is that Forspoken, Concord, Flintlock, Suicide Squad, Dustborn, Saints Row etc all have one thing in common, ohh and lets not forget tv shows like witcher, willow, the acolyte. she-hulk, rings of power etc if i have to explain this then either we dealing with invincible ignorance fallacy or its juts the classic "defend the purchase" biased mindset.

[Dr. Sexobeat]

Originally posted by Berries and Cream:

Originally posted by Dr. Sexobeat:

If you know anything about Forspoken, you would have known that the reason why the game failed wasn’t because it was “censored”. It was because it had terrible writing.

If you know anything about Concord, you would have known that the reason why it failed wasn’t because it was “woke liberal garbage”, it was because the game had little to no marketing until it was almost time to be released, it was a style that tried to match Overwatch and Gaurdians of the Galaxy, two pieces of media that were really popular when they first released, and they thought that 8 years later it would have been a worthy competitor to overwatch and the other games. the hero-shooter genre is already over saturated, on top of all that it was a 40 dollar game when it should have been free-to-play or at least cheap to purchase like the other hero shooters.

If you know anything a Suicide Squad, you would have known that the reason why it failed wasn’t because of “sweet baby inc”, it was because it was another online only live service turd plopped right onto a hot side sidewalk and they called it a sequel to the Batman Arkham games, a series that was a single player oriented experience. It may have offline play now, but by then the damage was already done and the employees at Rocksteady are paying the price for Warner’s corporate decision.

I must say that I also don’t agree with changing the original vision of media, it gets kind of annoying, and the forced arbitrary inclusion just to appease an audience that didn’t even play the game and only play Sims 4, Animal Crossing, Minecraft and League of Legends makes me chuckle at their fruitless endeavor, but i think anyone else here can agree that most of us are getting tired of hearing about how games are being ruined by the woke plague, when it is only a small contributing factor, and it completely downplays why these games fail in the first place. I have no doubt that I’m going to eat my own words when this game gets review bombed for being woke as soon as it releases, but I’m sure once people actually play this game, they’re either going to praise it for the quality of life changes, better visuals, added content, and fresh looking environment, and competent survivor ai; or they’re going to criticize it for the lackadaisical voice acting, Frank’s ugly mug, visual glitches or other anomalies, and the new streamlined controls that eliminate the challenges of beating the psychopaths. And it’s 50 dollar price tag.

It’s your money and you have the right to not buy a game because small parts of original vision is now lost in this new iteration, but it’s going to be hard not finding anyone who will dismiss your argument like it’s no big deal when your only leg to stand on is that you’re anti-[insert buzzword here] and you make it like it’s some sort of boogeyman when it’s only a splinter of the overall problem.

Sureeeee many excuses mixed with valid points to take the attention away from how much those publishers focused on DEI and its pretty much like the text some journalists will use to defend DEI and corporations... Ohhh wait there's an article from Forbes doing exactly same thing you did here, Are you Paul Tassi or did you actually believed all the information conveniently twisted and shaped to help making this "gamers are tr0lls bigots n haters, dei is good for you, they are not the problem, YOU are the problem" narrative?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/08/28/the-woke-war-why-the-right-believes-its-dominated-gaming-and-tv-in-2024/

truth is that Forspoken, Concord, Flintlock, Suicide Squad, Dustborn, Saints Row etc all have one thing in common, ohh and lets not forget tv shows like witcher, willow, the acolyte. she-hulk, rings of power etc if i have to explain this then either we dealing with invincible ignorance fallacy or its juts the classic "defend the purchase" biased mindset.

And here you are back on that only leg you stand on, except this time you’ve grown and extra gimpy leg which was to basically call me a sheep? still not providing any substantial argument.
Wave that protest sign, girl.

[tofutiles]

Originally posted by Berries and Cream:

its not about being a pervert cuz complaining about removal of erotica photos or unnecesarily criticism cuz changes they did with old characters and plot, it's about censorship itself, period.

People dismising censorship with poor arguments like "who cares, no big deal waht u perv?" or "meh who cares, minor boss, still asian np" are just endorsing, promoting, encouraging censorship in all forms.

imagine if DR2 gets a remaster in few years but blood is going to be black and the amount reduced and Chuck Greene becomes lgbt cuz reasons and the twins race swapped and get some decent clothes also Randy gets a redisign cuz the offensive portrayal and stereotype of overweight introverts.

None of that affects gameplay in any meaningful way, and people will say "who cares, game is gud, no big deal"

The issue is that corpo is doing this one step at a time, removing, changing, corrupting, distorting tiny bits, things that seem irrelevant at first but the changes occur until one day it becomes the norm and something "completely normal and accepted" to transform stories, characters and use censorship to please an audience who doesn't even play games, what? you want proof? why suicide squad, flintlock, concord, dustborn, saints row, forspoken failed?

i would be surprised if this part is exactly the same in the remaster, i can find so many offensive things to censor in the next scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6YlYK5hxE0

Dead Rising 1 is still available for purchase. They haven't altered content in that, its not censorship if they remaster it and go "well that didn't age well"

I was 16 when DR1 came out. I didn't like the erotic points, and i thought some elements weren't cool even back then. Its not censorship to relase an updated version with altered content while keeping the original intact. its not erasure, or replacing anything.

And considering how DR1 had a story that confronted the American Exceptionalism of the time, i am quite frankly shocked there are people who are big fans of this game, and whining like children over the changes.

[Dr. Sexobeat]

Originally posted by tofutiles:

Originally posted by Berries and Cream:

its not about being a pervert cuz complaining about removal of erotica photos or unnecesarily criticism cuz changes they did with old characters and plot, it's about censorship itself, period.

People dismising censorship with poor arguments like "who cares, no big deal waht u perv?" or "meh who cares, minor boss, still asian np" are just endorsing, promoting, encouraging censorship in all forms.

imagine if DR2 gets a remaster in few years but blood is going to be black and the amount reduced and Chuck Greene becomes lgbt cuz reasons and the twins race swapped and get some decent clothes also Randy gets a redisign cuz the offensive portrayal and stereotype of overweight introverts.

None of that affects gameplay in any meaningful way, and people will say "who cares, game is gud, no big deal"

The issue is that corpo is doing this one step at a time, removing, changing, corrupting, distorting tiny bits, things that seem irrelevant at first but the changes occur until one day it becomes the norm and something "completely normal and accepted" to transform stories, characters and use censorship to please an audience who doesn't even play games, what? you want proof? why suicide squad, flintlock, concord, dustborn, saints row, forspoken failed?

i would be surprised if this part is exactly the same in the remaster, i can find so many offensive things to censor in the next scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6YlYK5hxE0

Dead Rising 1 is still available for purchase. They haven't altered content in that, its not censorship if they remaster it and go "well that didn't age well"

I was 16 when DR1 came out. I didn't like the erotic points, and i thought some elements weren't cool even back then. Its not censorship to relase an updated version with altered content while keeping the original intact. its not erasure, or replacing anything.

And considering how DR1 had a story that confronted the American Exceptionalism of the time, i am quite frankly shocked there are people who are big fans of this game, and whining like children over the changes.

Lmao. You said “frankly”

[Q]

multiple reports of more censorship in the game including the blood, hilarious, cant wait to see the full comparisson with all the things they removed, changed and censored.