Dead Rising Deluxe Remaster

Dead Rising Deluxe Remaster

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Scyris Sep 18, 2024 @ 10:05pm
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Denuvo=no buy, not supporting anti-customer drms.
Yeah this is going to be another Starforce/securom where once the servers go down (and they will eventually) you'll be unable to play any game that has this drm, and if its like the older pc games, it most likely won't get removed by the devs as the older ones that relied on the same internet phone home system denuvo does never were removed when the servers went down.

I and many others avoid games with denuvo like the plague for this very reason, I own a few games with denuvo but those are games in series I can trust that I have enjoyed in the past, but when its a game I am unsure of? I won't touch it and this is one I am unsure of. By the time its removed if it ever is, i'll most likely have lost all interest and will even forget this game existed.

You lost a possible sale by including this anti-customer drm, and I bet I am not the only sale they have lost because the game has it.
Last edited by Scyris; Sep 18, 2024 @ 10:06pm
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Astro-rjs Sep 19, 2024 @ 12:07am 
this is the way
Q Sep 19, 2024 @ 12:20am 
DENUVO = NO BUY!!!!!!!

but... at least capcom removes it after a year or so, once that sales decline and game has reached a peak they remove drm... Not like disgusting square enix, disgusting WB or Ubisoft they keep denuvo in games released years ago like "south partk fractured but whole" or "tales of berseria" or "final fantasy XV" or "God Eater 2" and the list is huge, they love denuvo so much, stay away from those publishers.
Hells Malice Sep 19, 2024 @ 12:23am 
Nobody cares that you don't understand how DRM works and how it has no possible effect on performance.

You're just mad you couldn't steal it day one.
Q Sep 19, 2024 @ 12:26am 
Originally posted by Hells Malice:
Nobody cares that you don't understand how DRM works and how it has no possible effect on performance.

You're just mad you couldn't steal it day one.

you literally care enough to speak on the subject, saying that you dont care while replying to a thread on a topic and opinion you apparently dont care about is a major contradiction you obviously care otherwise you wouldn't have replied.
sel Sep 19, 2024 @ 12:57am 
Originally posted by Hells Malice:
Nobody cares that you don't understand how DRM works and how it has no possible effect on performance.

You're just mad you couldn't steal it day one.
heres an example of denuvo being removed and getting a very sizeable FPS increase, its a more recent game, even. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whgESBIQdRw

heres a video from the HIGHLY respected DigitalFoundry, one of the best and well known publications diving into technical aspects and performance of games, showing that a cracked copy of RE8 runs better than a purchased copy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXZGCwAJpbM

I can send you a hundred more links that show in real performance, fps numbers, that denuvo DOES reduce performance. I wont even mention the loading time increase it causes, and the fact that you need a 24/7 internet connection or you no longer can play the game. Hope your internet provider is reliable, as we all know ISPs are super reliable and never mess anything up.

Besides that, very few people care about stealing this game. The original game exists and is without the multiple frivolous attempts at making this game for "modern audiences".

but when it does get cracked and pirated, know that pirates will be getting more FPS than you, and can play the game offline, while you, a person who paid money for this game, cannot. People literally stealing are having a better experience than you, a paying customer, and you are actively defending that decision. Strange.
SunEarthMewsic Sep 19, 2024 @ 1:08am 
Instead of doing fruitless labor (because they're too stubborn and religious in their fervent attitude of defending corpos) ask yourselves why people like him religiously defend anti-consumer practices.

The answer is often very sad.
Scyris Sep 19, 2024 @ 2:08am 
Originally posted by Hells Malice:
Nobody cares that you don't understand how DRM works and how it has no possible effect on performance.

You're just mad you couldn't steal it day one.

I mean if you wanna get technical everyone who is on the internet steals things everyday, I am sure you've downloaded a song or piece of art or program you never paid for, just like everyone else has, so don't try to act like your on a moral high horse when your just like everyone else.

As for the drm question I do know how it works, and Denuvo has been proven multiple times to impact performance negativly by comparing the game before and after denuvo was removed, sometimes the performance gains are massive. There is no need for such an invasive drm period, and the fact they have one makes me and many others feel like the dev has no faith in their game since they do not want people to even try it to consider it before they buy it. Sure some other people may pirate it, but lets be real, the majority of pirates do it because they wouldn't have had the means to buy it anyway, so if you look at it that way there was no sale to lose, since one would have never had a chance to exist in the first place, that is what these game studios don't wanna tell you or want you to know. Piracy does not hurt them anywhere NEAR close to what they make on it does. What does hurt them though? DRMs like Denuvo that turn people away from buying the game, as they can't even try it to see if they like it first.

I mean I am unsure about the game, I got the money I could buy it right now if I felt like it, but I am unsure if its worth the price and how it'll run and if I'll like it, if I can't even try it, I'm not going to take the risk period and they just lost a highly possible sale from me, and I am not the only one. Not all Piracy is bad, they want you to think it is, but its not, word of mouth advertising can sell many copies, it can also cause a game to fail (looks at concord, and dustborn and other woke DEI injected slop), the more people you have playing the game pirated or not, the more free advertising they get, and that is worth way more than the very few sales they may lose to the actual pirates, as in people who have the means but just refused to pay for it. I am not saying piracy is right, but its sort of a grey line that can be both beneficial or bad for a game, depends on the game.

Like I said in my orignal post, remember Starforce or Secu-rom? Both relied on a internet server for the drm to call home to, and once those servers were gone? your games you bought are now paper weights, since the only way to play them is if they get cracked, as the drm was not removed by the dev, and the server it has to call home to no longer exists. Sure it might not be a problem "now" but what about 5 years from now? 10 years? you wanna play a game you bought that used denuvo but the servers are gone, what then? You can't play the game at that point without having it cracked. Thats why I dislike denuvo because its just a repeat of those 2 other simmlar drms and eventually all the denuvo infected games you have are no longer going to be able to be played. Its a ticking time bomb just waiting to go off. I personally do not trust the devs to get the denuvo removed when this happens, as the previous iterations of Denuvo-like drms under diff names were never removed, and those games can no longer be played legally.
cryocore Sep 19, 2024 @ 2:16am 
I for one am thankful that Crapcon shoved this malware up the crack of their games. It just means my backlog doesnt get any bigger and I save money. Its an easy avoid. There are so many games released every year now I like having an easy way to eliminate games from my potential purchase list.
Originally posted by Hells Malice:
Nobody cares that you don't understand how DRM works and how it has no possible effect on performance.

You're just mad you couldn't steal it day one.

it literally does have an impact on performance. it stopped me playing on release last night xD
Scyris Sep 19, 2024 @ 2:21am 
Originally posted by cryocore:
I for one am thankful that Crapcon shoved this malware up the crack of their games. It just means my backlog doesnt get any bigger and I save money. Its an easy avoid. There are so many games released every year now I like having an easy way to eliminate games from my potential purchase list.

I know right? Most games with denuvo just get bypass by me and I save my money, unless its something I KNOW I am going to like. For example Tales of Graces F remaster or Freedom Wars Remaster in january, I'll buy both of those denuvo or not, as I know I will like them and I know I can trust them. Anything I am unsure of? if I can't try it, I don't bother with it usually ever. Saves me lots of money as its mostly bigger devs that use Denuvo and alot of their games just kinda suck these days.
buttchin Sep 19, 2024 @ 4:07am 
Originally posted by Hells Malice:
Nobody cares that you don't understand how DRM works and how it has no possible effect on performance.

You're just mad you couldn't steal it day one.
Lmaoo enjoy paying full price for a trash demake, content removed and with performance issue even on 4090 :))))))))))))))
You're directly support ♥♥♥♥ service
CeeKay2k Sep 19, 2024 @ 5:30am 
I just bought it 3 times, FAAAAANTASTIC.
Sharkle_Bunwich Sep 19, 2024 @ 5:42am 
Oh finally a thread with an actual normal reason to not buy something.

Don't worry, Capcom has consistently removed Denuvo for their older games. RE Village for example had its Denuvo removed just last year IIRC. If you wait a bit (I'm talking like 2 years min) DRDR will have its DRM removed too.
Banshee Sep 19, 2024 @ 5:45am 
Originally posted by Sharkle_Bunwich²:
Oh finally a thread with an actual normal reason to not buy something.

Don't worry, Capcom has consistently removed Denuvo for their older games. RE Village for example had its Denuvo removed just last year IIRC. If you wait a bit (I'm talking like 2 years min) DRDR will have its DRM removed too.
They never removed Denuvo from Dead Rising 4. A bit more understandable considering the studio responsible for it shut down, but yeah. No guarantees.
Sharkle_Bunwich Sep 19, 2024 @ 5:47am 
Originally posted by Banshee:
Originally posted by Sharkle_Bunwich²:
Oh finally a thread with an actual normal reason to not buy something.

Don't worry, Capcom has consistently removed Denuvo for their older games. RE Village for example had its Denuvo removed just last year IIRC. If you wait a bit (I'm talking like 2 years min) DRDR will have its DRM removed too.
They never removed Denuvo from Dead Rising 4. A bit more understandable considering the studio responsible for it shut down, but yeah. No guarantees.

Who cares about Dad's Annoying 4.
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Date Posted: Sep 18, 2024 @ 10:05pm
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