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[Frey]

The game breaches steams terms of service by not disclosing the use of AI

Edit: evidence https://imgur.com/a/ai-upscale-7yzWyKo since alot of people have not seen it

Edit 2: since people dont know about Steams ToS https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/4145017/view/3862463747997849618
also in the ToS its say steam WILL disclose the use of AI not may or can

[Dwarven Runesmith]

Most of the AI used here are for images that were blurry or illegible in the first place.

[Sudik Ard]

Originally posted by Bankruptcy:

Originally posted by DickPays:

its def upscaled using AI.

nah the texture's too consistent with the original to be ai (the letters look too consistent to the overall shape of the block of text from the original). seems to me like a dev's gone in, changed the texture resolution from 512x512 to 2048x2048 manually, and then sharpened it afterwards

I guarantee a dev did not for each texture just manually change the resolution and rather than spending a few extra minutes fix issues with each texture.

[Icy1007]

Originally posted by Frey:

The game breaches steams terms of service by not disclosing the use of AI

Edit: evidence https://imgur.com/a/ai-upscale-7yzWyKo since alot of people have not seen it

Edit 2: since people dont know about Steams ToS https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/4145017/view/3862463747997849618
also in the ToS its say steam WILL disclose the use of AI not may or can

They don't have to disclose the use of AI upscaling of textures...

[✪ GIGO]

Originally posted by Icy1007:

Originally posted by Frey:

The game breaches steams terms of service by not disclosing the use of AI

Edit: evidence https://imgur.com/a/ai-upscale-7yzWyKo since alot of people have not seen it

Edit 2: since people dont know about Steams ToS https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/4145017/view/3862463747997849618
also in the ToS its say steam WILL disclose the use of AI not may or can

They don't have to disclose the use of AI upscaling of textures...

Yes they do, it's literally in the first point they make

[InstableMonster]

Originally posted by ✪ GIGO:

Originally posted by Icy1007:

They don't have to disclose the use of AI upscaling of textures...

Yes they do, it's literally in the first point they make

they dont have to disclose it to you, they have to disclose it to steam, learn to read



First, we are updating the Content Survey that developers fill out when submitting to Steam. The survey now includes a new AI disclosure section, where you'll need to describe how you are using AI in the development and execution of your game. It separates AI usage in games into two broad categories:

...

Valve will use this disclosure in our review of your game prior to release. We will also include much of your disclosure on the Steam store page for your game, so customers can also understand how the game uses AI.





its ludicrous the amount of people who want to enforce rules but yet dont even have the required level of reading comprehension to read those rules properly

[InstableMonster]

Originally posted by Frey:

The game breaches steams terms of service by not disclosing the use of AI

Edit: evidence https://imgur.com/a/ai-upscale-7yzWyKo since alot of people have not seen it

Edit 2: since people dont know about Steams ToS https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/4145017/view/3862463747997849618
also in the ToS its say steam WILL disclose the use of AI not may or can

no it says valve will use what is disclose to review the game and then they will use what is disclosed to decide what they put on the store page, no where does it say they will put everything on the store page, for the 4th or 5th time, learn to read, editing your topic with inaccurate statements does not make it true, and your evidence is simply that objects have higher res texture, not that AI was used and that it was not disclose to steam, you fail on all points

[✪ GIGO]

Originally posted by InstableMonster:

Originally posted by ✪ GIGO:

Yes they do, it's literally in the first point they make

they dont have to disclose it to you, they have to disclose it to steam, learn to read



First, we are updating the Content Survey that developers fill out when submitting to Steam. The survey now includes a new AI disclosure section, where you'll need to describe how you are using AI in the development and execution of your game. It separates AI usage in games into two broad categories:

...

Valve will use this disclosure in our review of your game prior to release. We will also include much of your disclosure on the Steam store page for your game, so customers can also understand how the game uses AI.





its ludicrous the amount of people who want to enforce rules but yet dont even have the required level of reading comprehension to read those rules properly

You are missing the point. They clearly did not disclose it to Steam, otherwise they would have let the customers know, as it states in their message.

[SadPlatty©]

Either way - if this was AI or human done, both excuses are ♥♥♥♥ I feel based on the outcome.

If AI - then just tell people; I feel like a chunk of the bad stigmata is really behind companies hiding that they use it, and then sometimes also get found out for ripping other artists images (look at Wizards of the Coast recently with the claims and issues). Being ashamed of using it only makes me think you are using it in a shady capacity.

If human done... why bother? The cat one they re-drew the cat's head it seems, so actually do the full image maybe? Are artists both too scared by AI but also too busy to re-draw the textures, that this is honestly "good enough"? If I worked on that """milk""" one, I would put in my 2 weeks if that was the best I could scrape together for a AAA release in 2024.

Back on the PS3/360 I would have forgiven this; but with all of the graphic/aesthetic changes they hyped up (including the new frank and a couple of others) - it just further screams "rushed" the more stuff like this comes up.

[Dwarven Runesmith]

Originally posted by SadPlatty©:

Either way - if this was AI or human done, both excuses are ♥♥♥♥ I feel based on the outcome.

If AI - then just tell people; I feel like a chunk of the bad stigmata is really behind companies hiding that they use it, and then sometimes also get found out for ripping other artists images (look at Wizards of the Coast recently with the claims and issues). Being ashamed of using it only makes me think you are using it in a shady capacity.

This is on more Steam side, since they only want to tell them if AI is used or not and then they take care of the rest. Meaning Steam decided not to publish this information, why? We do not know, try to email them for a comment on it.

[InstableMonster]

Originally posted by ✪ GIGO:

Originally posted by InstableMonster:

they dont have to disclose it to you, they have to disclose it to steam, learn to read



First, we are updating the Content Survey that developers fill out when submitting to Steam. The survey now includes a new AI disclosure section, where you'll need to describe how you are using AI in the development and execution of your game. It separates AI usage in games into two broad categories:

...

Valve will use this disclosure in our review of your game prior to release. We will also include much of your disclosure on the Steam store page for your game, so customers can also understand how the game uses AI.





its ludicrous the amount of people who want to enforce rules but yet dont even have the required level of reading comprehension to read those rules properly

You are missing the point. They clearly did not disclose it to Steam, otherwise they would have let the customers know, as it states in their message.

I'm not missing the point, you're just proving you cant read, steam doesnt say it will tell everything to their customer, it says they can decide to. Like the others learn to read before saying rules were broken, you're the one missing the point of the rule and how its applied.

[✪ GIGO]

Originally posted by InstableMonster:

Originally posted by ✪ GIGO:

You are missing the point. They clearly did not disclose it to Steam, otherwise they would have let the customers know, as it states in their message.

I'm not missing the point, you're just proving you cant read, steam doesnt say it will tell everything to their customer, it says they can decide to. Like the others learn to read before saying rules were broken, you're the one missing the point of the rule and how its applied.

Of course, Steam wont disclose the exact 100% of the Survey but they will let know if the game makes use of AI in any way. I think the one that lacks reading comprehension skills is you lil bud

[InstableMonster]

Originally posted by ✪ GIGO:

Originally posted by InstableMonster:

I'm not missing the point, you're just proving you cant read, steam doesnt say it will tell everything to their customer, it says they can decide to. Like the others learn to read before saying rules were broken, you're the one missing the point of the rule and how its applied.

Of course, Steam wont disclose the exact 100% of the Survey but they will let know if the game makes use of AI in any way. I think the one that lacks reading comprehension skills is you lil bud

no its you, nowhere it says they will let you in on every use of ai in the game, so again, learn to read

[✪ GIGO]

Originally posted by InstableMonster:

Originally posted by ✪ GIGO:

Of course, Steam wont disclose the exact 100% of the Survey but they will let know if the game makes use of AI in any way. I think the one that lacks reading comprehension skills is you lil bud

no its you, nowhere it says they will let you in on every use of ai in the game, so again, learn to read

This is specifically about AI. Literal Steam quote: "so customers can also understand how the game uses AI." I am sorry for your lack of education.

Edit: I wont reply anymore, as you already lost the argument. Cheers.

[Shibby]

Originally posted by ✪ GIGO:

Originally posted by InstableMonster:

no its you, nowhere it says they will let you in on every use of ai in the game, so again, learn to read

This is specifically about AI. Literal Steam quote: "so customers can also understand how the game uses AI." I am sorry for your lack of education.

Edit: I wont reply anymore, as you already lost the argument. Cheers.

It depends on what upscaling tech they used. Waifu2x upscales images but is not AI as an example.

[Girth Control]

These regulations are for AI generated content, not AI enhanced content. That's why DLSS and XeSS aren't considered "AI" despite them upscaling an image using neural network computing.

Valve will use this disclosure in our review of your game prior to release. We will also include much of your disclosure on the Steam store page for your game, so customers can also understand how the game uses AI.

Valve have never said publishers must disclose any and all use of AI to the customer, only to Valve. Valve then determines what should or shouldn't the customer be notified of, so you fundamentally don't have any evidence that this use of AI has gone unreported to Valve.