Removing Pukeyballs and Turrets from Dark/Haunted Mansion

[RainingMetal]

There's nothing that ruins a run in the Dark/Haunted Mansion than running into one of these instead of a super-awesome melee weapon. Really, there's no contest. I understand the RNG is meant to spice up variety, but the dissonance in quality and usability is so large it's not even funny. I always feel like getting the Pukeyballs and Turrets to be a huge middle finger from the game.

Can these be removed from spawning in the Mansion in a later update?

[SpaceLobster]

I disagree. Dark Mansion isn't only for finding rare/good weapons, it's also an insanely good place for finding 20-30 food and other resources. I believe the bad RNG in Dark Mansion should be left intact, even turrets are great for siege.

[RainingMetal]

Well, yes. I know that there are other spoils in the Mansion. But it always feels like I get the Pukey Balls at the worst possible times.

[Noob Herder]

Originally posted by RainingMetal:

There's nothing that ruins a run in the Dark/Haunted Mansion than running into one of these instead of a super-awesome melee weapon. Really, there's no contest. I understand the RNG is meant to spice up variety, but the dissonance in quality and usability is so large it's not even funny. I always feel like getting the Pukeyballs and Turrets to be a huge middle finger from the game.

Can these be removed from spawning in the Mansion in a later update?

I propose the spear is the only weapon you can find. That thing is beast.

[RainingMetal]

The melee weapons that spawn in the Mansion are all good. If it's not a huge mega sword that's awesome for high strength characters to cleave through hordes, it's at least a light, invulnerable glowing weapon that even a low strength and fitness character can use.

It's the Pukeyballs and Turrets that bug me. They can only be used for a short while. Meanwhile the melee weapons can be used forever. There's no contest.

[Eddy]

Yeah, those are kind of the booby prizes of the Dark Mansion. That sums it up perfectly, actually, they're lame in comparison to the other possible prizes because they have no staying power.

Maybe a good compromise would be to remove them from the prize pool, but instead add a chance of one or two of each/either appearing alongside the prize, so like finding a Golden Knife and also a Turret.

[toomanynights]

What's wrong with the Turret again? It's practically a "get out of last siege free" card. Just put the baby on the ground and let it do its job. You can also add to the mayhem with some explosives if you feel like it. Can be priceless on harder modes.

[RainingMetal]

Yeah, but you can only use them once. A big sword can do the job just fine too, and you get to keep it forever.

Speaking of crappy prizes, can we get rid of the Umbrella Shops in the Mall? Or at the very least, REALLY tone down how often they appear.

[toomanynights]

@RainingMetal I don't think that the game would be much interesting if the Death Road would be sowed with big swords :) IMHO turrets are fine for a change.

As for umbrellas... They are mostly useless, yes, but you may find valuable to pick up 4 of them when you're at Umbrella Shop next time and store them in your truck.

[RainingMetal]

As mentioned before, Turrets on their own are fine. But I'd much just get a super awesome melee weapon from the Mansion. Maybe make Turrets a rare find in a place like the Infested Stronghold or something. Maybe even have a new location like a military base for stuff like that.

I know the hidden utility behind gathering umbrellas, but WAY too often do I see them in the Mall. It's not a rare occurrence that I see two or even three umbrella stores in the mall. Keep it limited to one instance of them on any visit, if at all.

[toomanynights]

Originally posted by RainingMetal:

I know the hidden utility behind gathering umbrellas, but WAY too often do I see them in the Mall. It's not a rare occurrence that I see two or even three umbrella stores in the mall. Keep it limited to one instance of them on any visit, if at all.

I never really paid attention to how much umbrella shops are there in average mall. But having more than one really makes no sence.

[Mauman]

While I do find it somewhat disappointing to get those when I run those places, I understand that you can't always have what you want.

Just gotta make do with it. And like it was said, they're GREAT for that final F-U siege.

It's WAY better than going to a mystery factory and finding out it's an umbrella factory at least.

[Liro Raériyo]

Originally posted by RainingMetal:

Yeah, but you can only use them once. A big sword can do the job just fine too, and you get to keep it forever.

Speaking of crappy prizes, can we get rid of the Umbrella Shops in the Mall? Or at the very least, REALLY tone down how often they appear.

Oh, yes i really do think they need to tone it down, i once got a mall, and every section of the mall was an unbrella store, EVERY SINGLE STORE IN THE MALL SOLD UMBRELLAS...

What ANYTHING ANYWHERE needs an entire mall dedicated to the sale and distribution of umbrellas...

[Eddy]

Seems you got half your wish about those Pukeyballs and Turrets.

[Lodestar]

this game is amazing. i think society broke down because of the overflow in the umbrella industry.

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Originally posted by devolutelize:

this game is amazing. i think society broke down because of the overflow in the political issues involving china and the USA what then involved the Uk russia and north korria what let to a mass nuking mixed in with chemical warfare which only the umbrellas can block and saved the lifes of many people from turning into the undead and joining the horde.

i agree