Swarm Size

[Noodlerules]

I'm a bit confused which is the BIGGEST Sawrm Size Possible? Is it Sardine Packed? Is it Zombie Flood? Is it Death Sawrm? Is it one I don't know about? So many questions

[Tumalu]

The biggest size is NO HOPE.

:D

You can only run into this size on Marathon Mode/KEPA Mode, as far as I'm aware. Although -maybe- special events on Extreme can get it.

[Noodlerules]

Ok explains why I haven't seen it yet

[Cosmi]

Actually the biggest is "COMPLETELY SOLID!?!?" it is only seeable through my work in modding (and it's just as bad as it sounds)

[Noodlerules]

Aggresion max is Mega Cheesed I assume

[Tumalu]

I think so.

Also COMPLETELY SOLID!?!? is hilarious.

[Dr. Pinch]

COMPLETELY SOLID is terrifying, I got it as a swarm size on the final days of KEPA mode at an untouched grocery store and almost got bit just trying to get out of the car.

[Noodlerules]

im assuming it is covering every inch of the place?

[Dr. Pinch]

You've probably had the experience of walking into a new room with nothing in it except a preposterous amount of zombies, and noped out of there as fast as you possibly could. Completely solid is like that, but the whole stage from the very beginning.
The upshot of that is that zombies usually respawn slower than the rate at which a well-prepared party can take them out, and fire is very effective since they're all mashed together.

[Noodlerules]

Hey quick question for all you who have made it through the hardest modes. What is the sort of Meta for the game? Like should getting the best melee wepons be a priority? which guns are best for the hard sieges? Should I conserve my explosives? Which of the starting scavengeing places is best? which of the special missons are worth going for? Which locations are best to raid and which should I skip?

[Tumalu]

Getting a good melee weapon is definitely a priority in the higher modes, since there's lots of zombies everywhere. You'll be liable to screw up even normal looting missions and get someone bit, if you don't have enough stats/melee ability to deal with them easily. Praying to get the farm event and obtain a free scythe is one thing (pick hauling if you have 4+ str, or tilling if you have 4+ fitness, then you get a scythe), since those are -amazing- (but obviously this is TOTAL rng and usually won't happen), robbery can get you some good weapons in exchange for damage, etc. Stockpiling some food to get a good weapon is important.

Uzi/Assault Rifle are both amazing and not too expensive, and chainsaws are AWESOME. You need to obtain -one- of these at some point, or more uncommonly, an autoshotgun. If you have 5+ shooting, the guy who sells super basic guns will instead sell the really nice guns at a discount. Grenades are good but more for when you have food to spare than an actual priority.

Best starting raid is Rest Stop imo, followed by 'yall mart. Factory is sometimes alright but it takes awhile, so, zzzz, but you can get a decent hammer I guess. Hotel and House usually suck and you get like 2 food and nothing good. THIS ONLY APPLIES TO THE FIRST LOOTING EVENT. It, uh, gets more complicated with future events? Other than avoiding pet shops and umbrella shop and furniture stores as those suck, it's mostly about "what's the alternative, what do I have now vs. what I'd find", etc. Unless you have an Explorer you usually don't have a whole lot of a choice, so.

Special missions are a total mixed bag. Some are not much more dangerous than any other mission and some are SUPER dangerous, and some in both categories aren't terribly helpful to do. Going through the whole list would be a bit of a thing...

[Noodlerules]

Well I have been using the rest stop a ton so im lad its the best. I have been really liking the the parking meter as a good tier cheap melee wepon. I have gotten a pitchfork from the farming thing and it just sucked, I would rather have a cleave wepon instead of a spear wepon. Robbing from wepon traders with my set up is WAY WAY WAY To high a risk, I am using a berserker with 2 health and most of those events give take 2 health from each so way to big a risk. The reason I take a berserker is because the events that require strength if I can gaurentee a sucess I can get some sick rewards. No more bear maulings (:

[bhoylhogro]

Tumalu covered the looting part sufficiently. Aside from that, I'd advise you to choose whatever you like for events because you may have a different result for your choice, at your own risk ;)

Most of my runs normally have a main fighting character with high strength and fitness for a top-tier melee weapon. The lowest level should preferrably be at least a Mega Maul--- with Scythe (uncommon), Medieval Axe, Mighty Claymore, or Zweihander (rare) the top priorities. For secondary characters with subpar fitness I find Aluminum bats, hammers, and tire irons do the job.

For guns, I equip pistols and rifles on support characters while the melee character uses the shotgun. If there's a better gun available, he/she equips it. Chainsaw is definitely the priority one to acquire.

On using shotguns: it seems like it works better at mid-range than point-blank. The spread hits more enemies and some weak zombies have a chance to die by a single slug, while point-blank shooting usually hits only one zombie.

Explosives became necessary for my extreme-to-kepa runs. Position the whole team so that they have enough room to run away from the bomb.

[Noodlerules]

In my experience Rifles are ♥♥♥♥. Pistols if you have the right one are pretty good, but shotguns are where its at

[Noodlerules]

I have gotten down the resource management I'm just having some troble with the melee wepons and fighting. I have been using many chairs and benches

[Pixel Peeper]

Originally posted by Noodlerules:

In my experience Rifles are ♥♥♥♥.

Yeah, usually it's like... overkill a single zombie, wait forever to reload, overkill another single zombie, wait forever to reload. It's the piercing shots that really matter, but you don't get those anywhere near often enough to compensate for the horrible, horrible amount of time that goes by between two of those piercing shots.

Usually I just hope to get the fully automatic rifle at some point during a run so I can dump all my rifle ammo at the end of the game.