Is the "Ultra Efficiency" achievement bugged?

[Doctor Devil]

Hey! As per the subject, I think the achivement is bugged. I've read the older topics on this board, and - per my understanding - the description means that every single possible terrain "part" of a certain "type" must be connected to a compatible depot. That includes all the parts in reserve and queue, so can't have any terrain there.

So, did I do it correctly here? Both the queue and reserve was empty, and as far as I can tell, each mountain tile is connected to the rock depot, and each river tile is connected to both of the gold depots.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3770340966

Am I missing something?

[jafferduo]

I think the Supply Lane that decrease your resource gain may cause the problem (or not).
When I got this achievement, I chose a peaceful area so there's no enemy to disturb me, and remove all other buildings before deployment starts so you can fully focus on the thing you want to do.

[ulia]

Who's to say how it's programmed to trigger. You have a food depot connected to wasteland which could very well be why it isn't working. This achievement is trivial to complete though - Start an easy game, go through 1-2 regions to get the 300 food needed to upgrade scouting, then enter a region with plains, forest and river and complete the achievement requirements.

[Doctor Devil]

Originally posted by jafferduo:

I think the Supply Lane that decrease your resource gain may cause the problem (or not).

Here I have another example, no Depot is in contact with a Supply Line, still no achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3770765180

Originally posted by ulia:

Who's to say how it's programmed to trigger. You have a food depot connected to wasteland which could very well be why it isn't working. This achievement is trivial to complete though - Start an easy game, go through 1-2 regions to get the 300 food needed to upgrade scouting, then enter a region with plains, forest and river and complete the achievement requirements.

Well as per the previous topic on the matter (https://steamcommunity.com/app/2525310/discussions/0/707758082551207620/), and a post by the official creaators of the game:

Originally posted by Sleepy Mill Studio:

You can do it in act 3, you will have two depots for the same terrain. The wasteland is a terrain type yes and counts as such for various cards effects such as the Krak or the Supply Line

So touching the wasteland shouldn't be a problem.

[ulia]

The consistent pattern is that there are not 3 unique depots and areas, where as I can gurantee you'll get the mission done if you do it through the methodology I outlined. I can not attest to wether this is to be considered a bug or a poorly worded description though, what I'm telling you is how to work around it.

[Doctor Devil]

Originally posted by ulia:

The consistent pattern is that there are not 3 unique depots and areas, where as I can gurantee you'll get the mission done if you do it through the methodology I outlined. I can not attest to wether this is to be considered a bug or a poorly worded description though, what I'm telling you is how to work around it.

Yes, I know I can go for a peaceful area and (probably) do it. But that's not the point of this topic. As per the official statement in the topic I linked in my last message - there don't have to be 3 unique areas and depots for the achievement to trigger. If this is untrue, then it's not working as intended, and is a bug by definition.

[Sleepy Mill Studio]

I'll be having a look, can't remember exactly how I coded this sorry

[Doctor Devil]

Originally posted by Sleepy Mill Studio:

I'll be having a look, can't remember exactly how I coded this sorry

Wouldn't hurt to check. This is from a quick try in a peaceful area, took all the buildings out of the deck, no parts remaining in the queue and didn't use the reserve even once.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3770850894

Is it perhaps a case of the depots being not fully surrounded?

[Doctor Devil]

Here's another attempt, this time didn't even use the Undo button: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3770888875

[jafferduo]

That's weird, because I'd got all achievements successfully.
I'm not sure if the depot has to be connected with only one terrain, though.

Originally posted by Doctor Devil:

Originally posted by jafferduo:

I think the Supply Lane that decrease your resource gain may cause the problem (or not).

Here I have another example, no Depot is in contact with a Supply Line, still no achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3770765180
What I mean is you shouldn't use Supply Lane to decrease the resource you gain.
Well, it doesn't matter now anyway.

[Doctor Devil]

Originally posted by jafferduo:

That's weird, because I'd got all achievements successfully.

That's part of the problem. This is not only a Steam achievement, but an in-game achievement. It's required if you want to fully unlock the faction. And, while being really simple in theory, and possible to be done even by accident, only 0.8% of players managed to make it trigger. It's the 3rd rarest achievement.

[jafferduo]

Originally posted by Doctor Devil:

Originally posted by jafferduo:

That's weird, because I'd got all achievements successfully.

That's part of the problem. This is not only a Steam achievement, but an in-game achievement. It's required if you want to fully unlock the faction. And, while being really simple in theory, and possible to be done even by accident, only 0.8% of players managed to make it trigger. It's the 3rd rarest achievement.

Had you already unlocked all other achievements for The North?
There are 12 of them, but they don't appear fully, you'll have to unlock some of them to unlock new ones.
Are you sure the "Ultimate Efficiency" request already appear for you in your game?

[Doctor Devil]

Originally posted by jafferduo:

Had you already unlocked all other achievements for The North?
There are 12 of them, but they don't appear fully, you'll have to unlock some of them to unlock new ones.
Are you sure the "Ultimate Efficiency" request already appear for you in your game?

That's a very valid question. It's the last faction challenge I have left: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3771784748

I've found the achievements quite easy to do while playing the game normally. So much, that I unlocked most of them, without even looking at the list, during the first 15h of gameplay. Then, when I checked, I saw the "Ulimate Efficiency" one, and I thought "no way, I didn't manage to do it yet, it's something I'm actively doing every time I can" :D

[Bafbegagglestick]

Perhaps the problem is wastelands in the first place? I'm pretty sure I got my achievement in chapter one.

[Doctor Devil]

Originally posted by Bafbegagglestick:

Perhaps the problem is wastelands in the first place? I'm pretty sure I got my achievement in chapter one.

In the latter two screens there is no wasteland. Both have forest, river, and plains. Still didn't trigger.

[Bafbegagglestick]

Originally posted by Doctor Devil:

Originally posted by Bafbegagglestick:

Perhaps the problem is wastelands in the first place? I'm pretty sure I got my achievement in chapter one.

In the latter two screens there is no wasteland. Both have forest, river, and plains. Still didn't trigger.

oh I missed that, my apologies