Recoil, Bloom, Gun sounds still bad and need to be changed in 2024/2025

[3PARA | SPRIGGAN]

10 years of Rust experience, Finance invested and many hours and yet the one change that has effected Rust the most that needs to be changed into 2025/2026 is the "Recoil update" previously.


The AK and the LR sounds like a Wet towel slapping on a rock or a balloon popping from a Dart being thrown when they shoot and you are no longer able to distinguish what type of guns they are compared to previous.

The bloom is still terrible and needs to be changed to 200m+ not bloom at 40m.

People are cheating even more than ever and yet Facepunch only care about updating the Map and objects in the game and quality of the game but not the core mechanics that make up a game into something great, PVP, Anticheat, Movement, Map (yes the old map terrain is back).

The fact Console Rust has the old recoil sounds that are unique and strike fear and terror into the enemies you are fighting is what is needed again for PC, the sounds were uniquely designed Only for Rust and Rust is what made people addicted to playing the game through these sounds, visuals and experience. Rust has changed to appease the streaming community which should have never happened since streamers like Shroud or Summit 1G or Pokemaine are US streamers not local British based streamers to FP studios, They have grown up on games that are not Hardcore like Rust and Dayz, They are all about finding the next way to Capitalize on their money using games to do so with no care about the repercussions and yet.... Facepunch fell victim to the same situation.

Keep to the old roots of Rust, Rust is unique and becoming washed to commercialize the game into trying to grow and obtain more money, as a 10 year player before Hjune was even born, The game needs to change its gun play again, It will only grow if players can actually shoot, kill and be entertained whilst doing so and hearing a wet towel slapping sound or balloon popping sound for the AK or LR or many other off sounds about the guns P2 example is not entertaining, Human ears need to peak at gun sounds not dampen, Human eyes need to see violence to an extent to be engaged at our survival instincts that Rust so produced in its early days, and the Recoil that so pushed our physical instincts to its limitations that crafted the ultimate group pvp fighters out of any game on the internet has been lost and needs to be re-gained. If you would like an example of what the old Gun sounds and pvp gameplay looked like please see here: https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS2n4Kp1b/

Any staff member in the Facepunch office that reads this and agrees needs to push through their hierarchic in the office and Devote a cause to amending the pvp issues and yes it is an issue. It is not a praise to change a title that the streamers of the time called #The worlds hardest game to learn how to shoot and pvp / into a game that is now - easy to shoot and sounds that do not hurt you're ears, that is what is defined as a downfall for the pvp aspect and with this post I defend it and users will probably be toxic in the chat again although I do not care. I write for a bigger cause because I care about the Rust that was once loved by many day 1 customers and clans.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xRWXnC9AJI&ab_channel=JackShephard


#TGB #1000deep

[Shi Tþa Town™]

Very true, it seems greed corrupts all. This game is ♥♥♥♥ now, and is alot less reliant on skill. Now it relies more on numbers and whos got the bigger team, which is just so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gay. Allistair the rust dev is a lost greedy ♥♥♥♥♥♥ who just wants more money

[CodyThePoop]

dude is right please listen top gs ok all are right and ill deal with it thanks for your support and feedback i appreittece all who commiut good or bad always be kind be a god lol good jobs

[GrandmasWetPanties]

lol. Project your opinion harder my man,

[3PARA | SPRIGGAN]

Originally posted by GrandmasWetPanties:

lol. Project your opinion harder my man,

Thank you, I wish I could.

[3PARA | SPRIGGAN]

the old vs the new:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erdbkvtPszM&ab_channel=xo1d


And with this - Rust had a Unique Recoil and opted to switch to the "Fortnite, Overwatch Recoil" I don't watch video's on it, only after the above video this next one has showed up so I'm attaching it here too because Valid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xRWXnC9AJI&ab_channel=JackShephard

[3PARA | SPRIGGAN]

The old Recoil sounds is so Violent and Glorious because it is the PEAK of what an AK should sound like, Here is an Example of Audio inside a Warehouse where an AK is at its PEAK Audio and shooting capabilities close range which is more closer to the Old recoil sound that strikes fear into players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8i5d5toEDk&ab_channel=armoredvehicles

and the old recoil sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smwJeU-OZQQ&ab_channel=rustsoundeffects

[3PARA | SPRIGGAN]

I can guarantee Facepunch and Holmzy that bringing back the old Recoil and sounds would blow Rust up all over the internet 10x fold. Cheaters are still cheating and actually statistically more since the recoil change. It makes sense to bring it back and re-work the Anticheat to detect users abusing a static recoil pattern rather than a random recoil.

It also allowed server admins to be able to watch players and know exactly who is cheating to make professional opinions on who to ban. now still Admins do not know (If their servers still have pop) who to ban because the random recoil is taken into effect and is confusing to monitor. I get the Dev's you want to Automate Anti-cheat predictability, but Physical admins being at the helm of you're servers and keeping the community alive 24/7 is what it is about.

And if players are going to winge about language or issues just remember: GTA 6 will have more swaring, more murder, more theft, more evil content, than Rust will ever contain and yet people still love it, because GTA never cares about you're feelings when words are said in the community be it - streamers moaning, Kids crying over how hard the game is (because GTA is R18 and Rust should be as well) and because games like GTA are acceptable because they have worked on the game for over 20 years and gained growth every year and investors. Rust on the other hand since its recoil change has actually lost its key investors and also lost allot of the dedicated community which is sad to say.

[3PARA | SPRIGGAN]

fix.

[3PARA | SPRIGGAN]

Seems Rust has gone WOKE in its own way.

[No_Quarter]

Rust growing steady for the past decade to one of the most played games out there, meanwhile random whiner: "gAmE iZ dYYiNG cUz iT SuCKzz"

Old gun sounds are bad, that's not how guns sound. If you like a bigger sound you may as well ask them to put Cannon sound for P2 because that's what you're asking. 9mm doesn't have that punch.

Old recoil was so bad that in 2020's it's not worth the 2D arcade game.

[3PARA | SPRIGGAN]

Originally posted by No_Quarter:

Rust growing steady for the past decade to one of the most played games out there, meanwhile random whiner: "gAmE iZ dYYiNG cUz iT SuCKzz"

Old gun sounds are bad, that's not how guns sound. If you like a bigger sound you may as well ask them to put Cannon sound for P2 because that's what you're asking. 9mm doesn't have that punch.

Old recoil was so bad that in 2020's it's not worth the 2D arcade game.

I am aware how much rust has grown. Thats not my statement. I've played rust since day 1.

[No_Quarter]

Originally posted by 3PARA | SPRIGGAN:

I am aware how much rust has grown. Thats not my statement. I've played rust since day 1.

"live service" games are like a relationship, sometimes you just grow apart. You liked arcade cheese recoil but we have to be real here, there's no room for that in an aspiring game these days. No respectable game does that bs.

It was an early band-aid until they were able to make it better, and they did make it better.

You either accept the changes and learn to play with them and enjoy them, or you leave the game. Because if this upsets you so much then there's no benefit in playing Rust.

[3PARA | SPRIGGAN]

Originally posted by No_Quarter:

Originally posted by 3PARA | SPRIGGAN:

I am aware how much rust has grown. Thats not my statement. I've played rust since day 1.

"live service" games are like a relationship, sometimes you just grow apart. You liked arcade cheese recoil but we have to be real here, there's no room for that in an aspiring game these days. No respectable game does that bs.

It was an early band-aid until they were able to make it better, and they did make it better.

You either accept the changes and learn to play with them and enjoy them, or you leave the game. Because if this upsets you so much then there's no benefit in playing Rust.

You call The worlds Hardest recoil that stood the test of time over 10 years an Arcade recoil that took hours and years to perfect for people.....

You trully are showing you're WOKE streamer agenda. I played Bedwars and Rust for charity with Hjune and Shroud and all of these streamers, I know how bad the recoil change was because Facepunch tried to Apiese Summit1G and Pokimaine to gain more buyers in the game and for console..... the game needs a reverse its terrible.

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[Tipsyfr #halfsensing]

all the people disagreeing with u crying and complaining should shut the ♥♥♥♥ up i got no recoil on every gun in 2019 on a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ 40 fps 60hz laptop and a broken mouse with slow spots on a speed pad bring back old recoil it was the easiest ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mechanic in this game anyone that struggled with it should just not play any skill based game at all bc ur useless and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥