How do you reduce the game's memory usage?

[Vitdom]

Recently Rust has been crashing multiple times for me due to the game consuming 22.6 GiB of memory and Windows warning me in the Event logs about a Memory Exhaustion of System Commit limit condition. This is honestly the size of the entire game installation!

I am playing Rust on a Windows 10 PC with 16 GB of RAM from an SSD, just like specified in the Recommended system requirements.

SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
RECOMMENDED:
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Memory: 16 GB RAM
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Storage: 25 GB available space
Additional Notes: SSD Required

When I reduced all Rust settings to minimum, turned on Partial Optimized Loading and the global.asyncWarmup concommand; the game consumed -1.5 GiB less memory and cold loading times were reduced by -33 %.

But since Windows is always using over 1 GiB of RAM and I only have 15 GiB of RAM remaining I would like to reduce Rust's RAM usage by around -20 % more.
I have followed all the tips I have found, how can I reduce it further?

[rezo]

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What settings do you play at and what fps are you getting at 1440p then?

Medium, with no shadows, water shaders, gibs, normal shaders, parallax, antialiasing, nothing. And I am still getting <60FPS with stutters constantly. My friend plays on ultra afaik, but also still gets stutters because of his RAM consumption.

Your GTX 1080 is 7 years old has no DLSS, is comparable to a RTX 3050 if not slower and is older than the game itself. (Rust got rerelased in 2018 with a new engine) No doubt your hardware is slower than you think and its expected to get around 60fps on rust even at medium settings becasuse youre running 1440p. Not to mention you dont have the fastest cpu either, nor does your friend.

If your friend had a faster cpu like an i5 13600k or faster he would quite easily get 100% gpu usage and get far more frames as well as less stuttering. Its a balance between GPU and CPU. His CPU hold him back for sure and I know this because I have the same GPU paired with the faster consumer gaming cpu money can buy (R7 7800x3d) and I easily hit 95-100% gpu usageand I get 200fps on max everything at 1440p:
https://imgur.com/a/p1LAqOO

Honestly, I dont want to disrespect your system or put you down but I think you expect too much from a 7 year old gpu and a pretty low end cpu. Its time to realise that a £349 RX 6750xt would yield you almost 2x the fps in Rust and other games if you bought it and replaced your cpu with something faster, like a £200 R5 7600x. Understandably, you probably dont want to spend any money and would rather expect games to be catered towards your older system but truth be told that its probably not going to happen and eventually youll be forced to upgrade.

No doubt the RAM memory leak is an issue, but I dont think that has too much to do with your performance issue. You can claim that you can run all your other games fine at ultra 60fps but honestly, looking at your library, none of those games are particularly demanding and most of them are older titles.

You need a RTX 2080 to run games at 1440p ultra in 2024 especially anything made within the last year or two. You can look at the tomshardware gpu hierarchy to see geomean average fps at 1440p ultra, the RTX 2080 gets 60fps average whereas your gpu gets 39.4fps

Again, not trying to diss your hardware, just looking at the numbers and stats behind it all thats all.

Sources: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

[rezo]

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Nothing wrong with 16gb of ram for rust. What I wasnt aware of is that guy has 8gb of ram and hes complaining across the forums how badly optimised rust is and how the developers refuse to fix it. Referring to the Naryne guy.
The stuttering isnt too bad on 16gb of ram, you just need to either cap your fps or just lower settings so it doesnt have to render in as much.

Also cant really judge one for their financial status, but its definitely not unaffordable to buy another 16gb of ram if youre an avid gamer and care about pcs etc, its probably the cheapest upgrade you can do to your system.

The way I see it, developers shouldnt be held back by people using old af systems with <16gb of ram in 2024. Its why games like Star citizen are possible where their goals are extremely high at the cost of 25gb+ ram usage and pretty much requiring top end hardware just to achieve 60+ fps. If every game developer try cater towards old gen hardware and low spec pcs then new games wouldnt be as good as they are now in terms of graphics and pushing boundaries.

Most new titles use 18gb+ ram and need a good system to run, Rust however is a 10 year old game and can run fine on most peoples pcs and is not dissimilar to esports titles where its quite a competitive game, but expecting it to run well on 8gb of ram in 2024 is wild.

My windows 11 pro with RTX 3080 R7 7800x3d IDLES at 8.7gb of ram usage let alone trying to run a fairly intensive game. Windows is smart enough to decrease that usage if i had less ram but the fact I have 32gb of ram and its choosing to allocate over 8gb so its more responsive doing tasks shows that by only having 8gb you are forcing your system to be slower so it has more ram available for games and other software

I am sorry that you mis-read what I wrote. I was NOT complaining about running my game on 8g and it not working like someone suggested and then you people just went with that. I was pointing out that Rust finally changed their ram amount from 8g to now being listed as needing 10g for the minimum. My computer runs Rust on 16g ram and I never said in that post that I was running Rust on 8g.
Do everyone a favor and go back and read what I wrote instead of making false allegations here and in other posts.

I didnt misread what you wrote, I was referring to another post where you mentioned something about running the game on 8gb but honestly i didnt pay too much attention, it just seemed you just go around complaining about ram usage a lot.

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They added something new to the game and changed needing 8g ram to now needing 10g ram. Yesterday I logged in just fine with 8g ram but I have been trying to get in a game for 5 hours now and every time I get past warming prefabs the game crashes and i have to start Rust up again. it is 1pm rn and I started trying to get into the game at 8am.
I am done with this ♥♥♥♥ game. Stupid devs cant code a game that allows for a majority of the players with 8g ram to play it then its not worth playing imo. Im not going out to buy another 2 g ram just to play a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game.

Here you said 'Im not going out to buy another 2 g ram just to play a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game.' implying you only have 8gb of ram. Thats what I was referring to

[󠀡󠀡]

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google "intelligent standby list cleaner ISLC"
aka: DDU.
This application works well for FPS games. Problemo solved.

I just started using it, it has a minimal effect but its at least something. Game still freezes like crazy due to the memory leak, but it tries its best to spare cached ram

[Pocket Engineer™]

I played this game on a laptop with 8gb of RAM and 10GBs of virtual memory on an HDD like 7 months ago. Never had a problem when playing more than the known performance problems(i played the game on a 2017 low spec laptop, having 20fps on populated areas, and 40fps+ on empty flat zones)

And now, with a new desktop PC (16gb of ram, mid-spec gpu and cpu, SSD nvme), i can't enter a server without my pc struggling because Rust eats all of my ram. Literally everything crashes when im about to enter a server, and finally the game crashes too.
Speaking from the experience i lived, it's not about my PC, but it's about the game that i couldn't enter on a server

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One thing i also noticed is that when you have network lag, it combined with the current performance issues can make it worse. Almost like they feed off of each other (network perf and hard perf).

[Sköll]

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Medium, with no shadows, water shaders, gibs, normal shaders, parallax, antialiasing, nothing. And I am still getting <60FPS with stutters constantly. My friend plays on ultra afaik, but also still gets stutters because of his RAM consumption.

Your GTX 1080 is 7 years old has no DLSS, is comparable to a RTX 3050 if not slower and is older than the game itself. (Rust got rerelased in 2018 with a new engine) No doubt your hardware is slower than you think and its expected to get around 60fps on rust even at medium settings becasuse youre running 1440p. Not to mention you dont have the fastest cpu either, nor does your friend.

If your friend had a faster cpu like an i5 13600k or faster he would quite easily get 100% gpu usage and get far more frames as well as less stuttering. Its a balance between GPU and CPU. His CPU hold him back for sure and I know this because I have the same GPU paired with the faster consumer gaming cpu money can buy (R7 7800x3d) and I easily hit 95-100% gpu usageand I get 200fps on max everything at 1440p:
https://imgur.com/a/p1LAqOO

Honestly, I dont want to disrespect your system or put you down but I think you expect too much from a 7 year old gpu and a pretty low end cpu. Its time to realise that a £349 RX 6750xt would yield you almost 2x the fps in Rust and other games if you bought it and replaced your cpu with something faster, like a £200 R5 7600x. Understandably, you probably dont want to spend any money and would rather expect games to be catered towards your older system but truth be told that its probably not going to happen and eventually youll be forced to upgrade.

No doubt the RAM memory leak is an issue, but I dont think that has too much to do with your performance issue. You can claim that you can run all your other games fine at ultra 60fps but honestly, looking at your library, none of those games are particularly demanding and most of them are older titles.

You need a RTX 2080 to run games at 1440p ultra in 2024 especially anything made within the last year or two. You can look at the tomshardware gpu hierarchy to see geomean average fps at 1440p ultra, the RTX 2080 gets 60fps average whereas your gpu gets 39.4fps

Again, not trying to diss your hardware, just looking at the numbers and stats behind it all thats all.

Sources: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

It literally isn't a build problem, but keep pretending like the game is perfect when hundreds to thousands of people are reporting issues with builds that surpass mine.

[rezo]

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It literally isn't a build problem, but keep pretending like the game is perfect when hundreds to thousands of people are reporting issues with builds that surpass mine.

I mean I tried my best to rationalise the problem explaining how your hardware stacks compared to the rest of the hierarchy, how the game sucks in terms of ram leakage and its more demanding than people think yet you are reluctant to agree that if you had a higher end pc you wouldnt have as much stuttering and significantly more frames. Not sure what else I can say really.

You give your anecdote I gave mine. I run smoothly at 200fps+ at ultra settings, your friend with a slower cpu but identical gpu runs at much lower fps with lots of stuttering. you know what differentiates us? major cpu and ram performance differnece

Ill just go enjoy my rust fps while you can sit here having the same circular argument with yourself about what you can do to fix this problem (which by the way is by upgrading your hardware and brute forcing it) because the developers dont seem to be in a position to do much about it. I have no idea what their future plans are or what theyve spoken about in terms of ram leakages and performance issue on lower end hardware.

I guess you can enjoy <60fps gameplay then and be so in denial that your hardware, which doesnt even support DLSS, is the reason why you cant run the game at a smooth 60fps. I use to have a system slightly slower than yours and struggled to get more than 60fps in rust, then I upgrade and guess what... I get 200fps+. Crazy how that works

[phreirow]

just to throw in my data point. last session, i started off with ~20GB of ram being used and ended the session going over 30GB, of a total 64GB of DDR4. 60 fps 1080 with i7 9700 and 1650S with low to med settings. Rust uses a lot of memory, leaking or not.

[Vitdom]

Please do not discuss your FPS rate in Rust here. Make your own discussion if you have FPS problems. This topic is about the extreme memory usage as of the recent updates to the game. I have never had any FPS issues with the recommended hardware.

[Batair]

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It literally isn't a build problem, but keep pretending like the game is perfect when hundreds to thousands of people are reporting issues with builds that surpass mine.

I mean I tried my best to rationalise the problem explaining how your hardware stacks compared to the rest of the hierarchy, how the game sucks in terms of ram leakage and its more demanding than people think yet you are reluctant to agree that if you had a higher end pc you wouldnt have as much stuttering and significantly more frames. Not sure what else I can say really.

You give your anecdote I gave mine. I run smoothly at 200fps+ at ultra settings, your friend with a slower cpu but identical gpu runs at much lower fps with lots of stuttering. you know what differentiates us? major cpu and ram performance differnece

Ill just go enjoy my rust fps while you can sit here having the same circular argument with yourself about what you can do to fix this problem (which by the way is by upgrading your hardware and brute forcing it) because the developers dont seem to be in a position to do much about it. I have no idea what their future plans are or what theyve spoken about in terms of ram leakages and performance issue on lower end hardware.

I guess you can enjoy <60fps gameplay then and be so in denial that your hardware, which doesnt even support DLSS, is the reason why you cant run the game at a smooth 60fps. I use to have a system slightly slower than yours and struggled to get more than 60fps in rust, then I upgrade and guess what... I get 200fps+. Crazy how that works

I think youre lying, just saying

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Its not that he's lying, its that he isn't exactly being as accurate to what everyone is saying. If he was being accurate he would have benchmarked his critque to the current minimum specs not current or recent gen hardware.

No sh^t recent gen hardware will perform better, but as it stands, the minimum requirements to run the game most of us reach it or have surpassed it and even if you have 1 bottle neck, that doesn't explain how just a few patches ago, those same people ran 60-140 fps perfectly and then get their butt holes licked in these recent patches.

Him not addressing the obvious issue with the current update artificially sending our RAM sticks to kingdom come is a clear sign that he's either not aware of the true scale of it or he's being willfully ignorant ,especially when looking at the change logs these past few months and how recent changes like the attempt to add global rendering may be one of the culprits behind the sudden performance drop across all hardware classes.

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I mean I tried my best to rationalise the problem explaining how your hardware stacks compared to the rest of the hierarchy, how the game sucks in terms of ram leakage and its more demanding than people think yet you are reluctant to agree that if you had a higher end pc you wouldnt have as much stuttering and significantly more frames. Not sure what else I can say really.

You give your anecdote I gave mine. I run smoothly at 200fps+ at ultra settings, your friend with a slower cpu but identical gpu runs at much lower fps with lots of stuttering. you know what differentiates us? major cpu and ram performance differnece

Ill just go enjoy my rust fps while you can sit here having the same circular argument with yourself about what you can do to fix this problem (which by the way is by upgrading your hardware and brute forcing it) because the developers dont seem to be in a position to do much about it. I have no idea what their future plans are or what theyve spoken about in terms of ram leakages and performance issue on lower end hardware.

I guess you can enjoy <60fps gameplay then and be so in denial that your hardware, which doesnt even support DLSS, is the reason why you cant run the game at a smooth 60fps. I use to have a system slightly slower than yours and struggled to get more than 60fps in rust, then I upgrade and guess what... I get 200fps+. Crazy how that works

I think youre lying, just saying

[Amy Immernacht]

Got a 3070Ti with a Ryzen 9 5900X and this kid flexes with 200 FPS on 2K? Yeah no. Fat cap.
Even I barely get 90 FPS.

[TunisiaKid]

I have 16 gigs of ram and rust is eating the ♥♥♥♥ out of it
i have nothing else on

[Pocket Engineer™]

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I have 16 gigs of ram and rust is eating the ♥♥♥♥ out of it
i have nothing else on

"-maxMem=xxxxx" on launch parameters isn't working? I recommend allocating 14gb of RAM (-maxMem=14000), leaving 2gb for the rest of your pc

[GrandmasWetPanties]

just upgrade man, 16gb is the old 8 you want 32+ now a days