Responsibility for blocking mice bloody.

[Anton]

I am looking for an employee responsible for blocking mice bloody, in order to understand who from Your company to demand to buy me a new mouse that will be suitable for your game that I bought. The cost of a similar function mouse from another manufacturer is $ 30, which is approximately equal to the cost of my mouse bloody. Can send you its mouse mail, for your expense of course, because this not quite honestly simply require from you substitutes and not give you subject, which you require replace. Please tell me where you send the mouse, and I will tell you how you can transfer funds to me to buy a mouse that will meet the requirements of your game. Or you can buy me a new mouse and send it to me. That way everyone will be happy!
Note that I have not violated any of the rules of the steam community by sending you such a message of intent to solve your problem.

[R8lrond]

You can send me new one too, just dm me on steam. Thx Facepunch for great update
10/10 would play this game in few months again

[FAQSEBA]

i also have a bloody mouse, i never used scripts and i dont even know how to use them.. i bought this mouse to play fortnite and bind the 2 keys that the mouse has for building... Rust is trash, i have bought it like a week ago and i already had a lot of problems.. i dont think that this ban is legal, i didnt use scripts and i didnt broke any rule of the game, this is discrimination and they can have a lot of problems because like me, a lot of players paid for this game and we were excluded for not fair reason

[Anton]

I wanted to politely keep quiet, but it's annoying when you are accused of cheating, those who have long had a VAC ban. It even looks ridiculous)

Originally posted by Venom:

Maybe you shouldn't buy a mouse that has the catchphrase "Engineered to give you the unfair advantage"

Originally posted by I Have Recoil:

got recoil bro ?

[BombsOnyaMoms]

If you look at the official website, the COMMUNITY voted, to an overwhelming degree to block the bloody mouse. I guess ppl can only get lasered down so many times before they decide to take action...

[Anton]

Originally posted by BombsOnyaMoms:

If you look at the official website, the COMMUNITY voted, to an overwhelming degree to block the bloody mouse. I guess ppl can only get lasered down so many times before they decide to take action...

I do not care what and where voted, some community of someone. I bought the game in steam, and if the developer or someone from the staff of the company decided that I can not access the game, for a reason beyond my control(I bought the mouse much earlier than they blocked me from playing), then the developer should solve this problem in steam, and not on some third-party resource. And the solution that I have proposed is quite consistent with the laws of any democratic country. It should also be taken into account the fact that I am not a cheater and do not use macros and bloody software in principle, because I do not need its functions, which I can prove even in court, if steam or the developer requires it.

[BombsOnyaMoms]

Originally posted by Anton:

Originally posted by BombsOnyaMoms:

If you look at the official website, the COMMUNITY voted, to an overwhelming degree to block the bloody mouse. I guess ppl can only get lasered down so many times before they decide to take action...

I do not care what and where voted, some community of someone. I bought the game in steam, and if the developer or someone from the staff of the company decided that I can not access the game, for a reason beyond my control(I bought the mouse much earlier than they blocked me from playing), then the developer should solve this problem in steam, and not on some third-party resource. And the solution that I have proposed is quite consistent with the laws of any democratic country. It should also be taken into account the fact that I am not a cheater and do not use macros and bloody software in principle, because I do not need its functions, which I can prove even in court, if steam or the developer requires it.

Well, if you dont care about community opinion, then you should probably lodge your complaint somewhere other than the community forum. Devs are seldomly here. They have an official website they seem to prefer.

[Anton]

Originally posted by BombsOnyaMoms:

Originally posted by Anton:

I do not care what and where voted, some community of someone. I bought the game in steam, and if the developer or someone from the staff of the company decided that I can not access the game, for a reason beyond my control(I bought the mouse much earlier than they blocked me from playing), then the developer should solve this problem in steam, and not on some third-party resource. And the solution that I have proposed is quite consistent with the laws of any democratic country. It should also be taken into account the fact that I am not a cheater and do not use macros and bloody software in principle, because I do not need its functions, which I can prove even in court, if steam or the developer requires it.

Well, if you dont care about community opinion, then you should probably lodge your complaint somewhere other than the community forum. Devs are seldomly here. They have an official website they seem to prefer.

Great, but I'm not sure that their site is allowed to use any of my equipment, nor am I sure that this site is safe. But anyway thanks for the advice)

[Анг]

Так, і мені будь ласка верніть гроші за гру і всі скіни які я для неї купив, або пришліть мені мову мишку аналогічно моїй дорогій бладді.

[Анг]

Всі ставимо дизлайки цій грі у всіх голосуваннях!!!!

[Gellidus]

In short, a few bad apples ruined it for the rest of you.

Why are you mad at the Devs for closing a clear advantage to level the playing field (Honestly didn't know that was a thing!)
Does it suck that you have to get a new mouse to play rust? Yes.
Do i think you bought that certain mouse for that reason? Most likely not.

All we do know is part of the player base WAS using those mice to cheat, thusly FP removed the the exploit. Blame the cheaters.

[Anton]

Originally posted by Gellidus:

In short, a few bad apples ruined it for the rest of you.

Why are you mad at the Devs for closing a clear advantage to level the playing field (Honestly didn't know that was a thing!)
Does it suck that you have to get a new mouse to play rust? Yes.
Do i think you bought that certain mouse for that reason? Most likely not.

All we do know is part of the player base WAS using those mice to cheat, thusly FP removed the the exploit. Blame the cheaters.

I'm not angry at the developers, and offer a constructive solution within the law. I got Your point, but the problem is that I spent money on the game and spent money on the device (mice). And there are only three reasonable ways to solve this problem of developers(this is not my problem, because nowhere was it stated when buying that I can not use certain devices):
The First-to replace the device at the expense of those who actually require it(violating the rules of steam), at the expense of the game developers.
The second is to return the money for the game(with apologies). The second option is not interesting to me, but many other steam users agree to it.
The third way is to stop blocking users ' access to the content (game) for which they paid.
There are no other options according to the laws of the country in which I live, and not only according to the laws, but also according to common sense and logic.

[Gellidus]

Originally posted by Anton:

Originally posted by Gellidus:

In short, a few bad apples ruined it for the rest of you.

Why are you mad at the Devs for closing a clear advantage to level the playing field (Honestly didn't know that was a thing!)
Does it suck that you have to get a new mouse to play rust? Yes.
Do i think you bought that certain mouse for that reason? Most likely not.

All we do know is part of the player base WAS using those mice to cheat, thusly FP removed the the exploit. Blame the cheaters.

I'm not angry at the developers, and offer a constructive solution within the law. I got Your point, but the problem is that I spent money on the game and spent money on the device (mice). And there are only three reasonable ways to solve this problem of developers(this is not my problem, because nowhere was it stated when buying that I can not use certain devices):
The First-to replace the device at the expense of those who actually require it(violating the rules of steam), at the expense of the game developers.
The second is to return the money for the game(with apologies). The second option is not interesting to me, but many other steam users agree to it.
The third way is to stop blocking users ' access to the content (game) for which they paid.
There are no other options according to the laws of the country in which I live, and not only according to the laws, but also according to common sense and logic.

...Forgive me but that isn't how it works... They are a company, not a country. Thusly rules they implement for the game itself is completely up to them. Like how Overwatch on console wants you to play on a controller, not a mouse a keyboard. Kinda like how Social media site can choose to censor what ever they wish and remove whom ever they wish.

Now i ask, which law? In which country? Is Facepunch in that country? (see where i am going with this?)

[Uncle77]

Most countries (but not all) have laws that say when you sell someone a product or service it is to be "Fit for purpose".
For Steam games that means it should run on a PC.
If the game dev / platform "Bans" the use of a legally bought piece of equipment after some time then at a minimum there should be the requirement to offer a refund.

Even big companies like STEAM, have fallen foul of thinking they are bigger than the law.
The Steam game refund changes were mainly due to the action of the ACCC in Australia (and pending problems with the EU laws).

So if you are in a country that has these types of laws, you may want to talk to your local authority to make a complaint.

[Anton]

Originally posted by Gellidus:

Originally posted by Anton:

I'm not angry at the developers, and offer a constructive solution within the law. I got Your point, but the problem is that I spent money on the game and spent money on the device (mice). And there are only three reasonable ways to solve this problem of developers(this is not my problem, because nowhere was it stated when buying that I can not use certain devices):
The First-to replace the device at the expense of those who actually require it(violating the rules of steam), at the expense of the game developers.
The second is to return the money for the game(with apologies). The second option is not interesting to me, but many other steam users agree to it.
The third way is to stop blocking users ' access to the content (game) for which they paid.
There are no other options according to the laws of the country in which I live, and not only according to the laws, but also according to common sense and logic.

...Forgive me but that isn't how it works... They are a company, not a country. Thusly rules they implement for the game itself is completely up to them. Like how Overwatch on console wants you to play on a controller, not a mouse a keyboard. Kinda like how Social media site can choose to censor what ever they wish and remove whom ever they wish.

Now i ask, which law? In which country? Is Facepunch in that country? (see where i am going with this?)

... Excuse me, but it works because I do not live in a country called "facepunch" or "Steam", I live in the Russian Federation obeying the laws of the Russian Federation and certain laws of amicable agreements that the Russian Federation has signed, and Steam works on the basis of the laws of those countries where it trades. It also does not matter where the manufacturer of the product is located, because I will contact first of all the service (Steam) in which I made the purchase, which I actually planned to do today. Due to the fact that the developer violated my rights by his actions, and if you do not understand such basic things as the fact that a corporation or enterprise operates on the basis of the laws of a country in which they provide a service / sell goods, I advise you to read with these at least in your country of residence-similar basic concepts are not much different in different countries. Any agreements (including digital ones) that contradict the laws or violate them are not valid, and this is a basic concept in almost every civilized country. In this case, Steam violated the law on consumer protection of the Russian Federation, according to which I have the right to either terminate the contract of sale and demand damages (return of money paid for the game and associated costs), or demand the elimination of deficiencies in product or service at the expense of the manufacturer or seller, of my choice. These are the laws of the Russian Federation and everyone who conducts business in the Russian Federation must obey them, or not conduct their activities in the Russian Federation if he does not agree with them. The most interesting thing about this is that I as a user did not violate any clause of the agreements, and at the time of purchasing the product, as now, my PC meets the system requirements indicated on the game page. And I would be interested to hear under what law the developer has the right to violate even the rules of the service in which he conducts his business (Steam) and not be held responsible. In the Russian Federation, only minor children (under 14 years old) are not accountable to the law, their parents are responsible for them before the law. If only children under 14 work in Facepunch, then their parents will have to answer instead.

[Gellidus]

I believe that, those mice and keyboard fit under, Luxury items. If they banned normal mice a keyboards, then i might jump on board. Not a programmable mouse