Bring Back the Old Recoil System? Thoughts?

[OlivrexD]

So I stopped playing in February 2022 for personal reasons not for this forum. But now when I'm back drastic changes happened.

I have a couple of thousands hours in the game and never really learned the AK spray because well I didn't practice enough. But I had improvements and had things I knew I could get better at if I just spent that little extra time doing so. This is what separated players and gave the game some nice balance.

The players who could not control the AK could practice or use a gun with an easier spray pattern and still do a really decent amount of damage. It was a game of skill and a dice of luck hoping for a stressful mistake from the other part.

When I now booted into the game there is basically no recoil pattern at all, I can spray any gun straight. Its more or less like any other ♥♥♥♥ game that you dont really need to practice on. The real PVP is dead. The long timers are leaving and this short timers spend a couple of hours in the game before they feel like they know everything and leaves.

If you really want the game to thrive you shouldn't make everything easy, there need to be points for players to get better at. Removing the jump at dome for example, cmon, learn to press space.

TL:DR= What are your thoughts about the new recoil system? And the questions below.


What do you guys think of this?
Is the new no recoil system better or worse?
If you find it better, how many hours do you have now and how many hours do you spend a week into the game?
And a final question that you might not find relevant, how many skins do you own that you have bought?

[Lovecheese45]

TL/DR
new recoil here to stay. waaa waaa cry

[Rambler']

I enjoyed shooting the timed targets with the old recoil. I was just getting good lol, I also really miss the old LR4times.
I thought the new recoil would be good for the game though, too many scripts with the old recoil. Something needed to be done. However the new aimcone and sounds are kinda meh, and it has definitely made pvp more boring. Crouch and click, first to see wins. I enjoyed practicing in UKN to get better, but I know lots of people have the attitude that practicing in a game was stupid, I don't consider it practice, just gaming, build server, aim server, bow server, wipe, all good stuff for me.

I could not agree more, the dumbing down of games is a huge bummer. I'm really hoping we get a new sandbox game in the future that is savage. When rust first started it had that apocalyptic feel, random, scary. Now its just a formula, predicable.

[OlivrexD]

Originally posted by Weedzbot':

I could not agree more, the dumbing down of games is a huge bummer. I'm really hoping we get a new sandbox game in the future that is savage. When rust first started it had that apocalyptic feel, random, scary. Now its just a formula, predicable.

Thank you for understanding my point, It is sad how everything must be made so simple now adays. Youngsters dont want to practice they want everything on a plate already chewed.

[Bing Chilling]

im in the boat of, i don't mind the new recoil (even after learning the sprays)
but the crouch meta is pretty dumb imo.

also i still don't understand why they made the AK one of the easiest guns to shoot now
there is no reason to use the LR anymore. The LR was pretty OP with an 8X before the change, but it's useless now other then to scrap down for the burst model.

[Shrub]

People are having fun but you're still here complaining. It'll never come back. Figure yourself out, you're either trolling or this ain't healthy... If you really want actually be better, download Kovaak's aim trainer and dedicate your time to that. Unlike a recoil system, mice are probably here to say..

I wish you good luck mate.

[Floyd-net]

new recoil was not so bad for AK, however they massacred the MP5. that is my only complaint. that and the new sounds are kinda goofy.

[Dmitri Dolohov]

i was never really around to really learn the old recoil system, nor didnt i really care about it. at times it was a little frustrating cuz the easiest kill would be presented but i somehow fumbled it cuz of the way the recoil worked on the ak. i think that the old recoil system was better as it presented a challenge, but i think that the new one really gave newer players like me the chance to not suck lmao.

[Bing Chilling]

Originally posted by Donkey Kong ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.com:

i was never really around to really learn the old recoil system, nor didnt i really care about it. at times it was a little frustrating cuz the easiest kill would be presented but i somehow fumbled it cuz of the way the recoil worked on the ak. i think that the old recoil system was better as it presented a challenge, but i think that the new one really gave newer players like me the chance to not suck lmao.

it def made new players stand more of a chance
but it MASSIVELY lowered the skill ceiling.

i can live with it personally
but no one can deny they made the game alot more casual
and really screwed over super long term players that poured thousands apon thousands
of hours into their game.

FP is a business though
and making a game easier and thus more accessible
is a smart (yet annoying) monetary decision