Why do servers wipe?

[R1ch4rd N1x0n]

I don't understand the point in gathering resources and building a big base when you're going to inevitably lose everything when the server wipes. What's the point?

[R1ch4rd N1x0n]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Duck:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από R1ch4rd N1x0n:

I don't even play Ark, although for a completely separate reason. I was simply using it as an example as it doesn't wipe servers.

you have hundreds of hours in ark

Those are from quite some time ago. I eventually realized that the game was not for me and gave up.

[Goblin]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Duck:

if they didnt, every single server would be permanently dominated by one or two groups and there would be absolutely no point in anyone playing if they want to progress and not just get instantly foundation wiped by the uberclan with infinite sulfur

ya its almost like its a half ass idea with all survival games

[DrummerJacob]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από R1ch4rd N1x0n:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Jorge:

Your original question was answered and then you went on to complain and whine about a game you obviously dont play much or enough to understand the basics of.

When you went beyond the question and started telling us what the game should be changed into simply because you like it, you opened yourself up for criticism.

And almost everything youve said on this thread is cringey as hell. You even got mad asking why people cant understand what youre talking about when its you that doesnt understand the guy talking about death irl and how you cant fight it off and how thats like wipe, and youre all like - but you can fight off the causes of death.

No buddy, no you cant. People arent immortal. People die. Servers wipe.

Get over it. If you want to make a suggestion about the game to somebody who actually cares, go to rust.nolt.io

This is a discussion forum, not a place to try and have the developers change the game for someone who barely even plays it.

Notice the title of the thread. It is a question, asking why they wipe. I never, ever once said to change it.

"Don't play the game if you don't like it" is very valid, as I in fact, don't play the game because of the wipes. It's the one thing that motivated me to give this game a bad review.

Notice in my comment I specifically mentioned that im not replying to your original post but your reply to the replies and the denial youre in about how this game works.

We get it, you dont like Rust, you dont like Ark. You dont seem to like anything. So Im not sure why youre here talking about a game you dont like.

Are you hoping that someone will convince you to like it or are you just ♥♥♥♥ posting on a game you have no intentions to play? Either way, youre kinda full of ♥♥♥♥ my dude.

Go play a game you like. Thats what Steam is for.

[Niacyn]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από R1ch4rd N1x0n:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Duck:

the wipes are literally the only thing keeping the game from being absolutely dominated by the super clans
I would suggest that you actually try to play it for a wipe cycle or two

Again, Ark does not wipe and that game is fine.

Beacuse you progress in rust much faster than in ark. In rust, if you play well and have a team, you can get to end game first day of wipe. The end game and the pvp in ARK is well more advanced than in rust. Additionaly, in ark you can jump between servers, which you can't in rust.

Just you get bored on rust withoup wipes, its very swift game.


EDIT.
Lol, just saw its that long conversation, didnt see that 6 pages. So gonna enchance my reply a bit.

So, Rust has much less content, and focus more on PvP. It's just way more simple. Game is much faster, you build bases, get gear, learn blueprints quickier. Rust end game is recurring and faster to get, which leads to getting bored.
You can excatly see why there are wipes, when you see server's population curve. On all popular unofficials, on wipe day you have full server with high queue, then on day 3 or 4 it gets down really bad, day 5 its almost, or full dead.

[BombsOnyaMoms]

Anybody claiming ark is "fine", obviously didnt play on official pvp servers. They are all owned by roughly 3 clans, and they will smash you long before you get anything resembling power built up. Ark can still be fun single player or pve, it has enough content to support that. Rust is pretty much all based on pvp. Even the pve events are just to get you better equipped for pvp. Rust HAS to wipe, or it would be a dead game in a few months.

[Uncle Iroh]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από R1ch4rd N1x0n:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από LUCKY STALKER:

you lose it when you get raided. what is the difference?

Because at least that way I have a chance to fight it off. I cannot fight a wipe.

Jim thinks you have obviously never been offline raided. You just log in one morning to find some hooligans just jacked all your stuff while you slept. Jim thinks personally weekly whipes are too fast, you could never grow a good cornfield that way. But Bi-Weekly and Monthly Servers are just fine. Maybe you should try Rust for a wipe or two on a monthly server before you spew such opinions.

[Banzai]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από R1ch4rd N1x0n:

Those are from quite some time ago. I eventually realized that the game was not for me and gave up.

So Rust needs to be more like that game that's "not for you" and caused you to give up?

[Security Cam #7]

This must be a troll...

[R1ch4rd N1x0n]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από DrummerJacob:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από R1ch4rd N1x0n:

Notice the title of the thread. It is a question, asking why they wipe. I never, ever once said to change it.

"Don't play the game if you don't like it" is very valid, as I in fact, don't play the game because of the wipes. It's the one thing that motivated me to give this game a bad review.

Notice in my comment I specifically mentioned that im not replying to your original post but your reply to the replies and the denial youre in about how this game works.

We get it, you dont like Rust, you dont like Ark. You dont seem to like anything. So Im not sure why youre here talking about a game you dont like.

Are you hoping that someone will convince you to like it or are you just ♥♥♥♥ posting on a game you have no intentions to play? Either way, youre kinda full of ♥♥♥♥ my dude.

Go play a game you like. Thats what Steam is for.

Ah so I'm full of ♥♥♥♥ for my personal preference? Makes sense.

I dislike the two games for separate reasons. I don't like Rust because of the wipes, and I don't like Ark because it's not designed to play alone and I find it hard to keep friends on there.

[R1ch4rd N1x0n]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Banzai:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από R1ch4rd N1x0n:

Those are from quite some time ago. I eventually realized that the game was not for me and gave up.

So Rust needs to be more like that game that's "not for you" and caused you to give up?

Read the comment above, thx.

[R1ch4rd N1x0n]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από CornCobJim:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από R1ch4rd N1x0n:

Because at least that way I have a chance to fight it off. I cannot fight a wipe.

Jim thinks you have obviously never been offline raided. You just log in one morning to find some hooligans just jacked all your stuff while you slept. Jim thinks personally weekly whipes are too fast, you could never grow a good cornfield that way. But Bi-Weekly and Monthly Servers are just fine. Maybe you should try Rust for a wipe or two on a monthly server before you spew such opinions.

I have, I just didn't care.

[Banzai]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από R1ch4rd N1x0n:

Read the comment above, thx.

You don't seem to realise that the Rust wipe cycle is specifically to avoid the thing you don't like about Ark. So if they gave you what you want, you'd just be back to what you don't like about Ark, in Rust. I don't think these kinds of games are your thing.

[R1ch4rd N1x0n]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Banzai:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από R1ch4rd N1x0n:

Read the comment above, thx.

You don't seem to realise that the Rust wipe cycle is specifically to avoid the thing you don't like about Ark. So if they gave you what you want, you'd just be back to what you don't like about Ark, in Rust. I don't think these kinds of games are your thing.

The "mega tribes" ruling servers is not the issue to me. The fact that I can't seem to stay in a tribe, and the game not being meant to play alone, is the problem.

[Banzai]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από R1ch4rd N1x0n:

The "mega tribes" ruling servers is not the issue to me. The fact that I can't seem to stay in a tribe, and the game not being meant to play alone, is the problem.

In Ark you can play single player, and set all the rates for XP and resources etc to whatever you'd like. In Rust you can join empty servers, and use modded ones specifically if you want to make the single player experience easier or more interesting.

[LowIQ]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από R1ch4rd N1x0n:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Duck:

you have hundreds of hours in ark

Those are from quite some time ago. I eventually realized that the game was not for me and gave up.

But you're suggesting that they turn this game into Ark. This argument makes no sense anymore.

Simple fact is that if the servers don't wipe there's 20+ man zergs with 10k hours apiece who will occupy every single server leaving nowhere for you to play and they'll never get wiped. This isn't Ark no matter how much you're suggesting that it become Ark and there's no 10 hour taming etc. Instead, final tier items are gathered within the first hour by good groups while others are still waiting in the queue.

The servers would be dead within 5 hours of the first wipe when the local zerg has a box of AKs and goes raiding, the playerbase realises they can't even farm bps for next wipe and no wipe is gonna start them back up on an even playing field. It's just over. You go offline and you're done. You stay online and you're done. The next server over is already dominated and the zergs occupy all the high tier zones where you can quickly progress. You're now farming scrap along the road and just hoping you never meet the zerg, who are now the only other players on the server. You are playing rust pve.