Randomly Game Banned

[Gaben]

Has anyone else out of nowhere gotten game banned or know what to do about it. Never have i ever cheated I only had like 20 hours and didn't even really know what I was doing. I've tried appealing it many times but nothing come of it. Don't now what to do iso help.

[vic]

same but idk how to get rid of it

[Protomesh]

Originally posted by Gaben:

Has anyone else out of nowhere gotten game banned or know what to do about it. Never have i ever cheated I only had like 20 hours and didn't even really know what I was doing. I've tried appealing it many times but nothing come of it. Don't now what to do iso help.

your ban is so old you're cappin, you cheated

[Asuna]

jepp, logged on yesterday after 7-8 months of the game to check if there was an new update/new stuff in store, never connected to any server or anything, then today i got a accountmsg on steam that i was banned from Rust

[Gaben]

Originally posted by Protomesh:

Originally posted by Gaben:

Has anyone else out of nowhere gotten game banned or know what to do about it. Never have i ever cheated I only had like 20 hours and didn't even really know what I was doing. I've tried appealing it many times but nothing come of it. Don't now what to do iso help.

your ban is so old you're cappin, you cheated

I wouldn't be comin on here looking for help if i knew i cheated lol. I just gave up on tryna get it back.

[Gaben]

Originally posted by HikuuXD:

jepp, logged on yesterday after 7-8 months of the game to check if there was an new update/new stuff in store, never connected to any server or anything, then today i got a accountmsg on steam that i was banned from Rust

Yeah same ♥♥♥♥ happened to me hadn't played in a while and got back on to mess around and no servers showed and then I saw I had gotten banned

[lizongyi119]

EAC actively scans all of your processes and if any look suspicious or do the wrong win api actions then it will ban you without prejudice, Overlays, crosshairs, mouse macro software, Auto Hotkey and some anti virus programs can lead to a false positive, I am afraid that game devs rarely lift bans, if this is a common theme then they might unban you, but it is unlikely.

And if you cheated, well good riddance

[Gaben]

Originally posted by lizongyi119:

EAC actively scans all of your processes and if any look suspicious or do the wrong win api actions then it will ban you without prejudice, Overlays, crosshairs, mouse macro software, Auto Hotkey and some anti virus programs can lead to a false positive, I am afraid that game devs rarely lift bans, if this is a common theme then they might unban you, but it is unlikely.

And if you cheated, well good riddance

Thanks for the info yeah i doubt im ever getting unbanned sadly

[The Kook who Cooks]

Can't wait till I get banned from this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game when I forget to close down the Cheat Engine I use for SINGLE PLAYER GAMES, because I dared to bypass game mechanics that were designed to not respect the player's time, or other assorted RNG garbage.
(Wasting 20 hours on a single drop is not skill, it's tedium and bad design)

Funny thing is, the actual hackers have more means to bypass/avoid the bans anyways, so I wouldn't be shocked if EAC has been banning more people just for having "bad software" it doesn't like, than it is banning people using actual hacks.

If I'm wrong then there wouldn't be nearly as many hackers in this game as there are, either that or they have a surprising amount of disposable income for people who enjoy playing this no-life-grind of a game.

Originally posted by lizongyi119:

EAC actively scans all of your processes and if any look suspicious or do the wrong win api actions then it will ban you without prejudice, Overlays, crosshairs, mouse macro software, Auto Hotkey and some anti virus programs can lead to a false positive, I am afraid that game devs rarely lift bans, if this is a common theme then they might unban you, but it is unlikely.

And if you cheated, well good riddance

Automated software bans with 0 customer support or appeals process are a bad idea.

I got falsely banned for "using macros" (which I wasn't) on a different game and was lucky enough to have it repealed by a moderator. Here it seems I'm just shamelessly expected to fork over more money.

[lizongyi119]

Well getting banned is hard to bypass, you also need an HWID spoofer since if you get banned either way, if you dont use an HWID spoofer and get detected then your PC is flagged until you change your hardware, meaning that all false flag bans are also marking your PC, making another account or buying an account will not help you, you just get banned again.

Beware of ebay Harddrives, Anti cheat software will record unique identifiers for all of your PCs components, but only some info is used for rebanning, so some cheaters just sell their harddrives on ebay and get a new one to circumvent bans. This can even happen to CPUs and Graphics cards but is very uncommon.

EAC places trace files, so once you have been banned, there are hidden traces placed over your system, if EAC detects any of these, it will ban you again.

EAC records not just your PCs IP address, but also your router IP, this IP does not change, it either requires a call to your ISP to change or hard resetting your router to be changed, some ISPs assign new router IPs every now and then and you might have gotten one that has been flagged.

without specialized tools, or a lot of code knowledge it is not possible to get around an EAC ban other than getting unbanned or getting a new PC and router IP.

Other than that, you can just play via Geforce now which does not pass any data on to EAC and rust, so you can play via that just fine. This is not a sales pitch

[lizongyi119]

On the note of cheat engine, it is a very powerful tool used to dissect games for pointers and data structures, this tool can also be used to run scripts and inject code into games, it would be obvious for any game that is protected by anti cheat to ban this software, they are fine with it not running, if you do then that is your issue.

There are version of cheat engine that do not get detected by Anti cheat, these versions are mostly used for malpractice, but if it is not your intention, then you can look for those, I will not give you further information

[The Kook who Cooks]

Originally posted by lizongyi119:

Beware of ebay Harddrives, Anti cheat software will record unique identifiers for all of your PCs components, but only some info is used for rebanning, so some cheaters just sell their harddrives on ebay and get a new one to circumvent bans. This can even happen to CPUs and Graphics cards but is very uncommon.

EAC places trace files, so once you have been banned, there are hidden traces placed over your system, if EAC detects any of these, it will ban you again.

That's exactly what I mean about having an automated system with next to no oversight or appeals. Having my account's access tied to a bunch of technical stuff that I have to trust never to fail or make an error is completely ridiculous, especially if things like anti-virus software can result in a ban, let alone buying "the wrong used hard drive"

Originally posted by lizongyi119:

On the note of cheat engine, it is a very powerful tool used to dissect games for pointers and data structures, this tool can also be used to run scripts and inject code into games, it would be obvious for any game that is protected by anti cheat to ban this software, they are fine with it not running, if you do then that is your issue.

There are version of cheat engine that do not get detected by Anti cheat, these versions are mostly used for malpractice, but if it is not your intention, then you can look for those, I will not give you further information

But how do I know for sure that EAC isn't going to ban me for having "something naughty" on my hard drive even though it isn't even running?

There's also the potential issues of macro use. Both my keyboard and mouse have built in macro buttons. Am I just counting down the days until I accidentally press the wrong button (or forget to disable them before playing a single time) and get perma banned?

Measures obviously have to be taken to stop cheating/hacking, but having the system that exists now (which does a piss poor job of it) without having a clear appeals process for false bans seems like it could very easily be doing more harm than good, and with the state of the community being what it is, everyone just wants to see everyone else get banned.

Sure, a lot of people who post "I didn't cheat" probably cheated, but I don't believe that it's 100% of them all.

[Toki]

Originally posted by Ayy Doll-Fit Lure:

Can't wait till I get banned from this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game when I forget to close down the Cheat Engine I use for SINGLE PLAYER GAMES, because I dared to bypass game mechanics that were designed to not respect the player's time, or other assorted RNG garbage.
(Wasting 20 hours on a single drop is not skill, it's tedium and bad design)

Funny thing is, the actual hackers have more means to bypass/avoid the bans anyways, so I wouldn't be shocked if EAC has been banning more people just for having "bad software" it doesn't like, than it is banning people using actual hacks.

If I'm wrong then there wouldn't be nearly as many hackers in this game as there are, either that or they have a surprising amount of disposable income for people who enjoy playing this no-life-grind of a game.




That's the guy who was in favour of removing spray patterns.
Most cheaters have attitude problems.

[The Kook who Cooks]

Originally posted by Temo Beams Weebs:

That's the guy who was in favour of removing spray patterns.
Most cheaters have attitude problems.

Nobody should be forced to waste hours of their lives memorising weapon spray patterns just to stand a chance against the already heavily entrenched multi-thousand hour playerbase that turned Facepunch's flawed game-design into one of the most deciding factor of combat.

Most of the people against predictable spreads being removed are just mad that they wasted their time on a completely artificial meta-game instead of developing skills that can't be arbitrarily patched out on the developers whims.

It's a shame the weapon spray patterns have remained in the game unchanged for longer than any server has ever gone un-wiped in the entire lifespan of this game. Seems a bit backwards to me.

[Protomesh]

Originally posted by Ayy Doll-Fit Lure:

Can't wait till I get banned from this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game when I forget to close down the Cheat Engine I use for SINGLE PLAYER GAMES, because I dared to bypass game mechanics that were designed to not respect the player's time, or other assorted RNG garbage.
(Wasting 20 hours on a single drop is not skill, it's tedium and bad design)

Funny thing is, the actual hackers have more means to bypass/avoid the bans anyways, so I wouldn't be shocked if EAC has been banning more people just for having "bad software" it doesn't like, than it is banning people using actual hacks.

If I'm wrong then there wouldn't be nearly as many hackers in this game as there are, either that or they have a surprising amount of disposable income for people who enjoy playing this no-life-grind of a game.

Automated software bans with 0 customer support or appeals process are a bad idea.

I got falsely banned for "using macros" (which I wasn't) on a different game and was lucky enough to have it repealed by a moderator. Here it seems I'm just shamelessly expected to fork over more money.

You need a cheat engine for singleplayer? Bro...

Don't play the game if you don't like how the devs manage it

[Protomesh]

Everyone scripts. If you don't wanna be banned because you cheat, don't play the game. Pay up or quit.