Controlling recoil

[Grandad]

How do people control the recoil so easily on Rust?

No matter how hard I try, how much I practise, how many hours I play, I simply cannot control the AK Recoil on this game. Yet I come up against people who don't miss a shot and you'd think the recoil didn't even apply to their game, its just crazy!

Its also extremely annoying that the AK is pretty much the end all and be all of this game, it feels like because I am not good with that I may as well not play.

Has anyone got any advice on how to control recoil? Is there a knack to it that i'm missing, for instance does play position matter, mouse grip, mouse movement being from wrist or whole arm etc etc...?

[xBasel]

i think alot of it has to do with your mouse and maybe sensivity honestly man i dont know i have the same problem but im still good with ak just cant control the way other people can

[BORG]

They keep messing with the recoil it's nothing unusual. The AK47 has changed so many times I lost track. They just can't make up their mind about a proper balance for the gun because they have no actual experience with firearms is my guess. If they did or hired someone who did, the gun play would be a lot better and more polished. The firing pattern has changed too which also changed aiming alongside the recoil changes.

Just so you know, Rust is an alpha game. It left Early Access from prototyping as Garry called it, to being an alpha. Well, prototyping is alpha and are exactly the same so nothing changed. The game isn't even considered beta so you're never going to get consistent mechanics until these developers figure out what they actually want to accomplish, complete and do it properly. The rinse and repeat changes are worn out. Lots of people are frustrated with the constant gun play changes. They have just become sick of it and have moved on - including many of the YouTube and Twitch content creators.

You're by far not alone.

[Grandad]

BORG whilst I do value your input and I do fully understand your frustration with Rust and its development, could we please stop taking each conversation back to the ineptitude of the Rust developers? The pattern that emerges on each thread now is that a thread begins criticising an aspect of the game or discussing an aspect which could be improved, you provide usually reasonably constructive feedback but lace that constructive feedback with heavy criticisms of Facepunch and how useless they are, Daddy will then comment on how you are a troll, other people will join, the thread gets derailed and dies. We know that Facepunch lack direction and could use a more suitably qualified project lead, but that is not going to happen, so I will play their flawed early access/alpha/whatever product until it eventually dies, I will also be completely frustrated with it at times and rage quit for months at a time but I will still play it as it is at least somewhat entertaining.

On this particular thread, I am just looking for feedback on how to improve my recoil control, it has always been awful, I am not a great PvP'er and I am genuinely interested in how others control it so well.

Basel, I've tried messing with the sensitivity but it doesn't seem to help, although I'm scared to mess with mouse DPI now as I don't want to install the logitech software EAC went after people who used it. I know there is no risk unless you use scripts, but considering EAC policy of "we'll ban you if we want and we don't have to prove why" i don't want to take any risks lol.

[Noah]

you are just ♥♥♥♥

[Grandad]

Originally posted by •ησαн• .₭:

you are just ♥♥♥♥

So's your mum, but then I don't mind a ♥♥♥♥ lay, especially when she's so cheap.

Also it doesn't take much to come to your conclusion, especially considering that I admit to having awful aim, not being a great PvP'er and my name is actually ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥..... the point in the thread is to try to move away from being ♥♥♥♥ using constructive advice.

[TheH]

they all have macroz:D

[BORG]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

BORG whilst I do value your input and I do fully understand your frustration with Rust and its development, could we please stop taking each conversation back to the ineptitude of the Rust developers? The pattern that emerges on each thread now is that a thread begins criticising an aspect of the game or discussing an aspect which could be improved, you provide usually reasonably constructive feedback but lace that constructive feedback with heavy criticisms of Facepunch and how useless they are, Daddy will then comment on how you are a troll, other people will join, the thread gets derailed and dies. We know that Facepunch lack direction and could use a more suitably qualified project lead, but that is not going to happen, so I will play their flawed early access/alpha/whatever product until it eventually dies, I will also be completely frustrated with it at times and rage quit for months at a time but I will still play it as it is at least somewhat entertaining.

On this particular thread, I am just looking for feedback on how to improve my recoil control, it has always been awful, I am not a great PvP'er and I am genuinely interested in how others control it so well.

Basel, I've tried messing with the sensitivity but it doesn't seem to help, although I'm scared to mess with mouse DPI now as I don't want to install the logitech software EAC went after people who used it. I know there is no risk unless you use scripts, but considering EAC policy of "we'll ban you if we want and we don't have to prove why" i don't want to take any risks lol.

Well lets cut to the chase, Ultimately the only way to really get good with the AK47 is to target shoot and practice on moving players such as friends running parallel or in a serpentine way. Each time they do this, get them to change their angle and direction of approach to slightly change your perspective each time. You may prefer the high or low ground when you engage in PvP, but don't know this yet. Practice crouched and standing. Get used to the pulldown (pull back on the mouse to control recoil) and control the X axis sway. Beyond that there is really nothing else you can do other than just practice different techniques to see if you can nail one that works best for you. Don't be focused on the AK47 either as a top gon. Remember, some guns in certain games everyone is good or bad with. You may find you're better with other guns and can do better with a lower tier gun. It all boils down to you need to practice if you want to figure out the mechanics.

Now this is something to think about. It holds regard to what the games of tomorrow will bring.

Why side step the issues of Rust being broken? Specifically in this case, the gun play of the AK47 mechanics are screwy and always have been imbalanced or broken. It's not any different than the Waterpipe Shotgun delivering 0.0 damage on a headshot from no further than 2 meters away. There are other examples, but I'm not going to get into that right now. I'm not frustrated with Rust. I'm just stating things how they are. The company is bad and hasn't produced a single full version complete game in fourteen entire years. This is year fifteen and still they have not punched out one finished and properly working game. The gun play in Rust has always been a mess - a mess I (like many others) used to put up with when I played because I thought as with all Early Access games things would be better later on. I saw no changes or serious efforts go into changing and fixing the gun mechanics in a permanent way what so ever. I gave them the chance to prove themselves as have many, many other thousands of people. Eventually people get sick of it, wash their hands and walk away. I'm not telling you to quit playing, but I'm just making that point clear that most people get sick of those sorts of things and can't be bothered to waste their time on them anymore.

I understand you like Rust and that's absolutely fine, but regard the criticism as a message to make the comapny and community take notice that if they keep supporting what is wrong, nothing right will come of it. What i don't understand is that you know there are problems, but you still support what's wrong. I understand you like the game, but when you know something is wrong that shouldn't be, why would you support it? It's not as though this company hasn't had time to properly fix these things. If you know many things are wrong after a long time, why would you continue to support them? That is what confuses me. I understand being a fan of a game, but where does one draw the line?

Just some food for though.

[BombsOnyaMoms]

Cant get off that soapbox even when asked nicely huh? No surprise there. @op. Practice helps a lot but some ppl are cheating with aimbot or no recoil macros. They are starting to get caught and banned now, but don't get discouraged. I seem to have the best luck if i single shot the guns, even the automatic ones. Still, recoil is pretty rough in this game.

[BORG]

Originally posted by BombsOnyaMoms:

Cant get off that soapbox even when asked nicely huh? No surprise there. @op. Practice helps a lot but some ppl are cheating with aimbot or no recoil macros. They are starting to get caught and banned now, but don't get discouraged. I seem to have the best luck if i single shot the guns, even the automatic ones. Still, recoil is pretty rough in this game.

Mind your own business and take your drama elsewhere.

[Ting Ting]

On average it takes 10’000 hours to master a skill, keep practicing with the ak and your get there

[BombsOnyaMoms]

Originally posted by BORG:

Originally posted by BombsOnyaMoms:

Cant get off that soapbox even when asked nicely huh? No surprise there. @op. Practice helps a lot but some ppl are cheating with aimbot or no recoil macros. They are starting to get caught and banned now, but don't get discouraged. I seem to have the best luck if i single shot the guns, even the automatic ones. Still, recoil is pretty rough in this game.

Mind your own business and take your drama elsewhere.

Why dont you take your sad little 1 man smear campaign elsewhere? Ill leave just as soon as you do. I mean, your drama isnt any more special than anybody elses.

[BombsOnyaMoms]

Originally posted by Daddy:

But his mommy says he is a special boy

Ya. HIS drama is so special and important. I completely forgot what a beautiful and unique snowflake he is. Boy, facepunch really dropped the ball when they let that little jewel go....who will mop their floor now?!?

[BombsOnyaMoms]

Originally posted by Daddy:

Originally posted by BombsOnyaMoms:

Ya. HIS drama is so special and important. I completely forgot what a beautiful and unique snowflake he is. Boy, facepunch really dropped the ball when they let that little jewel go....who will mop their floor now?!?

You think he was already trained enough to mob the floor?

well no....thats why they fired him. Dead weight and all that.