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They lose money from these sites that sell malucilous software.
It's an attack on your image and product.
They can't catch people who write scripts with let's say AutoHotKey, or prove anything as it's just an exe. Application running in the background.
It could even be something made for a person who has a legitimate disability like an amputee.
What they are looking for are people who use software on the blacklist they made that often piggy backs or reads streaming data before it even reaches the game. Or hacks that rewrite gamecode to unlock admin features.
That's part of how the Leage if Legends hack works it reads incoming data and it uses took AI the bots were programmed with to dodge skillshots.
Basicly it see what your opponent is doing then uses the games own AI to path the hero out of the skill shot before the game even receives the data.
Rust is not a competitive MGL game so you will not see the same level of interest from hackers selling code to exploit security loop holes.
Most of the time people just want an excuse why they got head shot 3 times in the dark... it's a game / fight an expert gamer & they get lucky - that's what you get on your side looks impossible.
Same with people who cry about raiders going strait for the loot, they done it 1000 times they pretty much know where to punch into your base with the greatest chance.
Even AHK script people make they have limits an AK still going to spray with a random aim cone even if a script trys to compensate and recenter to a point.
When a cheater affects a video game, the company can sue the individual for cheating. Can the average player sue a corporation easily for cheating being abundant due to immense lacking game security at the core programming level of their games? Are companies and corporations at large, being held liable for any game production security standards? The simple answer for this is no and if any, hardly none. There are more cases of companies and corporations suing players in regard to cheating than there has ever been class action lawsuits against corporations or companies, for not properly securing their games or software. Why? People don't want to collectively become involved to change this all. It's easier to just ignore a problem than actually fix it. Out of sight; out of mind. That is how society deals with things nowadays more than ever.
It's a two way street. Whether you choose the direction of truth and honesty in this is entirely up to you.
Regardless, the core game code of Rust is a mess and could be a hell of a lot more secure. The networking side of Rust and the core game code alone speaks volumes regarding game security. Unless you explore the inner workings of the software, you would never know these things.
You know how much cheating would be opened up if EAC wasn't paired with Rust so this should show you the amount of lacking game security Rust actually has. Game security is just as much important as any software security if you don't want to have security issues - like cheating. In this case of Rust, the security issues are that people can breach the game security way too easily, to cheat. They bypass EAC and start cracking the game source code to develop cheats. They do this through means of software disassembly and data packet analysis. It's a walk in the park for these knowledgeable people and people who aren't even near as knowledgeable, are also able to create game cheats all on their own.
The underlying truth here is that we know Rust is not secure at its core and it never has been since 2013 other than around 2015 which was a very short period. Without any kind of anti-cheat we can both likely agree that there would be way smaller player population playing Rust.
Now, if you consider the notion of the anti-cheat being removed from Rust, you know cheating would become even worse. If the core of the game itself were more secure and even if people penetrated EAC to cheat in Rust, they could be very limited in how far they can go while using cheats and the game could be secured in such a way that specific cheats actually harm players making it impossible to cheat in certain ways. EAC could cover the rest that can't be covered, but this is not the way things are working in the video game industry. Anti-cheat companies have become a solution rather than an alternative security layer for video games. Companies are putting almost all reliance of game security, on the anti-cheat companies. There are much more clever ways to mitigate cheating, but they aren't being used.
Also, remember what society said about all the conspiracy theorists during the 1950s-1970s. People thought they were all tin foil hat people too. It wasn't such a joke when a whole slew of those conspiracies became a recognized reality, fact and truth.
Players dumb enough to risk using a blacklisted software will get caught by the 3rd party anti-cheat software once they catch up, that is why there is so many ban players for that.
FacePunch is a game developer - not security engineers - so what do big companies do: they hire a party to handle it for them… They are specialist and are constantly adding new programs to the list to sniff for when a game is active.
Same with other project, FacePunch hires artist, network engineers and other specialists.
So why would you direct your frustration at FacePunch saying they did a sloppy job coding this game and that’s why someone died to a “hacker”, when it’s the skill of coders causing these problems? All that does is drag the name in the dirt try to convince other the devlopers are lazy company.
I work security, and yes I do make profit because of criminal activity but it’s my profession, I do not condone it.
The people who wear tinfoil hats are literally people misinformed and not educated in the field so they don’t understand why or how a things is or works so they fabricate their own truth on a level they understand. Challenge them with the truth and facts and they avoid and redirect questions that go against logic.
Now let's compare that to a Rust player.
Somebody with less than 300 hours in Rust will 100% not understand how a person with 3000 hours is dominating them on a level that is way beyond their understand of the game, so what they do is listen to all this grossly exaggerated talk people spewing about the game is insecure and blame them for hacking and nonsense believe and use that as the truth why they rage quit the server. When really logic is they are just better and never used cheats so never banned - not because the security sucks in the game.
People who use hacks will get ban, no one notices, then new version of the hacks come out and people complain more.
That's why I dislike cry babies and challenge statements that complain, because most times it's just emotional babble.
This is where our ideas go separate ways I’m afraid. For one why should game developers waste time and money fixing issues that are created by others? Games companies could just release games without anti-cheat. Its not there fault people want to cheat and any effort they put into stopping it is voluntary. Its a lot of work and money wasted because of ego maniacs who think they are better even if they have to cheat.
second, i also cant buy into the whole conspiracy theory regarding devs/cheat coders. Its just not happening I’m afraid. As always the answers are much more dull than that.
Shsssh, the grown ups are talking.
I never got banned from Rust? and I never cheated on rust wtf are you talking about?
Multiple means 1 thanks because when I got the VAC From TF2 it counts all these other games even tho I don't own any of those games but CSS, so that's how it says multiply
https://puu.sh/Dnd7w/9fb7b57c1f.png check there and also was false ban, but do you want a cookie because you aren't one those false bans I contacted and fought it to get it lifted because it was complete BS but nothing happend because they Beleived there VAC was good enough to do its job yeah no I seen people get banned for nothing before I even seen famous players get false ban and there action was lifted because there status and also I wouldn't be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ if I cheated? Or I would just cheat and make use of it to make up but I don't cheat believe what you want tho and its been almost 3 1/2 years since the ban so if you would like to see https://puu.sh/Dnd7P/25f868ce07.png and I am not going to make a new account after the fact when I have so many games invested on my account why would I ever do that not going to happen. So all aside don't make my vac just assume i am a cheater or was a past cheater on every game I play because that's not the case at all, because why would I spend money and time on a game just to get banned no ty. I was putting a point across and wanted insite on other players if they seen hackers them self not to be targeted by bandwagon people to attack me because a vac fk that.
Clearly Borg is thicc to the next level.
No, its a discussion in a discussion forum. Some times that means lots of words. Some people enjoy reading and discussing issues that they find interesting at length. If some people have the attention span of gnats then that's an issue on there end and they can just not read them.
Borg some how got banned from the thred so no more borg.