Run Down on Graphics Settings for Rust, Post PC Specs

[MonkehMaster]

most games work like this, some do it a bit different but still work out the same way.

example for rust would be: (in percentage of usage)

fanastic: 92/8 (gpu > cpu)

beautiful: 78/22 (gpu > cpu)

good: 64/36 (gpu > cpu)

simple: 50/50 (gpu = cpu)

fast: 36/64 (cpu > gpu)

potato: 22/78 (cpu > gpu)

super potato: 8/92 (cpu > gpu)

that isnt an exact math for this or any game, but to give you an idea of how most graphic settings work, you just have to play with the settings to match your pc and get the best performance you can from your hardware, while realizing that it wont always be the best or what you expected, or even acceptable to your tastes, but more of a 'this is all i can get out of my hardware on this game".

keep in mind your cpu, ram and ssd/hdd will always be using a small percentage by itself with the OS and other stuff running, so that isnt a part of those percentages, also keep in mind that depending on how resource intensive the game is may change on how much usage your gpu/cpu may hit and not all games will be able to push your gpu/cpu, also some games may or may not be more cpu or gpu demanding, but either way your cpu should never be maxed to 100%, your gpu can run 100% but i wouldnt suggest it because that will cause performance issues or lessen its life.

those percentages will vary depending on resolution and how you mix your settings (graphics, image effects and experimental... atleast in this game), fullscreen or windowed (windowed has to render the desktop on top of the game, fullscreen doesnt), running dual or more screens will also affect your performance (fps in general), in rust if your running fullscreen window without borders or windowed you will be rendering 2 or more desktops and the game, or setting the launch command (-window-mode exclusive) will force true fullscreen and cut back on 1 desktop to render, but has issues with blacking out second or other monitor(s).

then you have your fps which can be factored by those percentages, your hardware (including monitor and cord sending the information to the monitor and other cords/wires sending information), sdd vs hdd (ssd being faster and not bottlenecking your gpu because its not giving the information fast enough, which in turn helps load times and does help a bit with fps), ram and other various reasons that all factor into your fps or game performance.

now rust in general needs atleast 16GB ram (speed does matter and i would recommend 3000mhz atleast) and an ssd (m.s or sata, either are fast), gpu with 6GB vram or higher (amd or nvidia, i recommend nvidia personally) and a cpu to match the performance of said gpu (id recommend an i7 or better), low po servers with active admins/mods will keep ram usage down (along with a relog periodically), high pop servers will always have high ram usage.

please dont use integrated graphics for gaming, majority are just garbage and mostly never compatible with games.

also for performance reasons and less writes on ssd, i would separate your OS and games, both being on separate ssd's, hdd's or the like are primarily used for storage now a days and mostly cant outperform an ssd.

capping/locking your fps to your monitor/tv can be very helpful to keep your fps stable even in badly coded games, will stop tearing (if any) and keep your gpu cooler, having fps higher than your monitor/tv isnt going to do you much good, you can cap your fps with the gpu app or free/G/V sync, also in some games (rust being one of them).

cooling also causes good/bad performance, air or liquid can be good depending on the setup and hardware usage, if your using air or both, then use a case with good airflow and good filtering (i personally add more filtering to mine), also set some varied and acceptable fan/pump cooling curves to keep the hardware cool, also the ambient temperature in the room your pc is being used can help keep your pc cool, for instance keeping your room at 70-75 with a air conditioner can help alot.

if you find your having issues with performance for any reason, goto's are always, clean up, uninstall/reinstall, verifying files and most importantly updating drivers or reverting back to more stable ones (gpu and the like), you can always wipe a gpu driver with DDU and reinstall to clear up graphics issues.

use a battery backup, they help keep your electronics safe from surges/ outages/ brownouts, they can clean your power (depending on the type you buy) by converting your AC power to DC and back to AC, AC from the utility is almost always dirty (for lack of wording).

all of that is for the people who arent pc savy and dont understand, or are simply ignorant to the facts, cpu or gpu should not be running at 100% and if it is, your either doing something wrong/stupid or your hardware is being bottlenecked by either badly matched hardware, issues or watching/listening to idiots on youtube.

also to add, which is the main factor here with gaming or pc usage now a days, generally requires atleast 16GB ram and an ssd, with a decent cpu and gpu, budget builds will not always cut it for modern games and most devs find that optimizing for low end pc's is alot of extra work that doesnt always work and is costly.

edit: would like to add that when going from highend, mid to lowend gpu (the same with other hardware will also depend on usage and how you should change your settings, mix and matching highend/mid/lowend hardware will produce a bottle neck and 1 or more parts will be pegged at 100% (also depending on your settings), dont expect lowend or midend hardware to produce high fps or wonder why its close to or hitting 100%.

edit: dont mix and match ram sticks, always buy as sets/pairs that have matching CAS latency /speeds and size (GB sizes), always fill your slots be it dual channel or quad channel, they will run faster/better that way.

always, build your own pc, never buy prebuilts and please stop complaining about performance on your so called "gaming laptops", they just arent gaming quality and generally always have issues be it with heating or other stuff.

would like to add, that people need to stop using those crappy launch settings, most people seem to be doubling up launch options like force d3d11 and force feature level 11.0, both of those are basically the same, they are forcing dx11 and 1 is forcing dx11.0 when dx11.3 is better, also the game already uses dx11 if your running win7, then you have people forcing single thread and other things that are degrading performance, the only good launch option i have seen people use yet is the one that forces true fullscreen.

edit: also comparing 1 game to another is not going to solve your problem, nor is comparing the 2 even legit as they may/may not run on the same engine, have different coding, more/less graphics intense textures/ect.. , more/less optimizations may/may not have been done, tons of stuff factor into every different games performance, also the older a game is the less chance it will be able to fully utilize or be a graphic (or resource, ie.. cpu/ram/ect..) intense game on modern hardware, so stop using comparisons to justify why your hardware isnt performing like it does in other games.

edit: also like to mention that there are quite a few tweaks you can do to your pc, that may/may not help your pc performance, one being setting your pc to performance mode in your power options and performance mode in your gpu settings, may try looking at the gpu settings to see if it is overriding in-game settings or allowing the game to control graphics settings, there are quite a bit more on this subject of pc tweaks that can be done.

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helpful rust info for people who dont have a program that tells them this already.

note: ram usage is according to what the game is using, not the total your pc is using, along with all other info it shows..

note: Garbage collection (GC), also known as automatic memory management, is the automatic recycling of dynamically allocated memory (googled info), which is what causes those small micro stutters, they may be short and quick on low pop and more frequent annd longer on high pop.

note: not to sure on the VRAM one, it doesnt seem to match up to my VRAM usage on my asus overclocking app.

(f1 console then type perf and the number below).

perf 0

Disables information

perf 1

Shows your FPS

perf 2

Shows your FPS , Latency(ms).. (Latency shows how long it takes to render a frame).

perf 3

Shows your FPS, Latency(ms) and VRAM(mb).

perf 4

Shows your FPS, Latency(ms), VRAM(mb), Garbae collection(GC).

perf 5

Shows your FPS, Latency(ms), VRAM(mb), Garbage collection(GC), RAM.

perf 6

Shows your FPS, latency(ms), VRAM(mb), Garbage collection(GC), RAM, Ping

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Rusts min-recommended system requirements:

MINIMUM:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 7 64bit
Processor: Intel Core i7-3770 / AMD FX-9590 or better
Memory: 10 GB RAM
Graphics: GTX 670 2GB / AMD R9 280 better
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 20 GB available space
Additional Notes: SSD is highly recommended or expect longer than average load times.


RECOMMENDED:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 10 64bit
Processor: Intel Core i7-4690K / AMD Ryzen 5 1600
Memory: 16 GB RAM
Graphics: GTX 980 / AMD R9 Fury
DirectX: Version 12
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 20 GB available space
Additional Notes: SSD is highly recommended.

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this is just a general pc maintenance suggestion...

always keep your pc clean from dust (weekly/BI weekly or monthly depending on filtering and how much dust your house has) and clean temp files (%temp% in windows search), unused programs/ bloatware/ ect.., always keep your drivers updated (dont use window update for drivers, those are always generic outdated or even faulty drivers), try and get the majority from the manufacturer (especially your gpu), or you can use a program like driver booster which gets their drivers from the manufacturer as well, you can use advanced systemcare to help with the cleaning and optimizing if you dont want to do it manually.

edit: use disk cleanup weekly, use sfc scan (system file checker) from your cmd once in awhile and check disk to make sure your drives are running good, you can clear your dns cache as well.

edit: reapply thermal paste (at the very least) yearly (or sooner if it is used heavily), on both gpu and cpu, also you dont need a ton of thermal paste, 1 small dot in the middle is good enough.

for gaming pc's, i personally dont recommend antivirus, it uses way to much resources while running and can cause issues with all these lazily coded programs now a days, this includes platforms like steam and games, if you go without using a installed antivirus and still want that protection you can use a portable antivirus thats installed on a usb for a weekly scan and as a precaution, dont use said pc on the internet or download anything aside from your games and drivers, thats not 100% full proof but its pretty close, i personally use a different pc too download other stuff, surf the web and watch streams,movies,ect.., this way any possible infection is limited to that pc which has an antivirus installed and goes through a weekly scan by installed antivirus and usb antivirus, not including safe downloading practices.

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id like to add, im nowhere near a professional when it comes to computers or games, but i do have just about 30yrs working on computers and about the same amount playing games on all different types of systems from super old computers too consoles.

add anything you like that i didnt add, but that majority i wrote can go a long way to keep your pc running smooth for years, ignoring hardware fails because of other circumstances.

post your pc specs/builds if you want

[MonkehMaster]

ASUS ROG STRIX theme with rgb lighting (Gaming PC)

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MAIN SPECS:
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OS:

win 7 pro 64bit

CPU:

i7 6850k 6 core @4.0ghz (no overclock)

GPU:

asus rog strix 1080 8GB ddr5x vram (no overclock)

RAM:

64GB ram g-skill trident z ddr4 3000mhz (no overclock)

SSD/HDD:

1TB samsung 960 pro nvme m.2 ssd (OS)

1TB samsung 850 pro 2.5 ssd (games)

western digital 4TB gold (storage)

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OTHER SPECS:
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CAPTURE CARD:

ELAGTO HD60 PRO (PCIE)

WEBCAM/CAMERA:

SONY Handycam CX405 HDR-CX405/ WITH CAM KIT

MONITOR(S):

55IN HISENSE FLATSCREEN SMART TV / 30/60HZ @4K

(going to buy another of the same tv to match and have another screen for less alt tabbing)

MOBO:

ASUS ROG STRIX X99 GAMING LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99

PSU:

HXi Series™ HX1000i High-Performance ATX Power Supply — 1000 Watt 80 Plus® PLATINUM Certified PSU/ Fully Modular

CASE:

Rosewill B2-SPIRIT ATX Full Tower Gaming Computer Case

COOLING:

MasterAir Maker 8 High-end CPU air cooler (3d vapor chamber)

(9x) -NOCTUA NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM, 140mm PWM,AAO Frame Technology and SSO2 Bearing Fans

KEYBOARD/MOUSE/HEADSET:

G.SKILL RIPJAWS KM780 RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard - Cherry MX Red with Gaming Keycaps

G.SKILL RIPJAWS MX780 USB Wired RGB Laser Gaming Mouse

HyperX Cloud Stereo Gaming Headset for PC / PS4 / Mac / Mobile - Black

UPS:

(2x) APC BX1500M Back-UPS Pro 1500 VA 900 Watts 10 Outlets Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS)

POWER:

duel dedicated outlets for all my elcetronics/pc's (separate circuits from the rest of the house).

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OTHER ACC:
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(x1) ROG Front Base Dual-Bay Gaming Panel 4 inch LCD (overclocking, temps, speeds, etc..)

(x2) Fan Extension Card (comes with 3 thermal sensors)(1 card 3 sensors in ea box)

(x1) CVTCSPK 2" Case speaker (just something ive always been used to having with dekstops)

(x4) NA-SYC1 4 Pin Fan Power Cable Splitter 1 to 2 (2 in each box)

(x8) NA-SEC1 Accessory 4-pin Extension Cables (3 in each box)

(x5) NA-SAVP1 Chromax Anti-Vibration Fan Mount Set - 16 Pack - Red (NA-SAVP1 red)

(x1) 10-Pin USB/AC97/HD-Audio Internal Header Y Splitter Cable (50cm) (CAB038)

Phanteks PH-LEDKT_COMBO RGB LED Strip Combo Set of 2 = 400mm - bought 4 sets = 1600cm - 4 strips are 1m and under 1.68a.

(x1) Corsair CP-8920152 Premium Individually Sleeved PSU Cable Kit Pro Package, Type 4 (Generation 3) (red braided)

(x6) PR-SATA3-24-LL-RD-90 24 inch Premium SATA III 6Gbps Data Cable w/ Gold Plated Locking latch - 180 Degree to 90 Degree,Red Color Net Jacket (1in each package)

(x2) EA-HDAC-10-BK 10ft. 28AWG Stranded Tinned Copper 18Gbps High Speed HDMI Cable with Ethernet w/Ferrite Cores,Black,M-M ,Ultra HDTV 4K x 2K & 3D Compatible - 4096x2160P@60Hz

(x2) Western Digital IcePack 2.5-inch to 3.5-inch Hard Drive Heatsink Mounting Kit Frames (WDSL00) - For 2.5" HDD/SSD Drive.

Lusana Studio Chromakey Green Screen Muslin Backdrop Kit for Photo Lighting, LNG2900

modded the case with extra filtering to help keep out dust.

[MonkehMaster]

this laptop is just for downloading, web surfing and watching streams /movies /ect..

edit: this one is currently down due to short on the motherboard (as of 8/9/19), may or may not be able to fix the issue, it did last 7+ years with out a single issue until now.

inspiron 15r se (7520)

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MAIN SPECS:
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OS:

win 7 home premium 64bit

CPU:

i7-3612QM (quadcore) @2.1ghz (3.1ghz with intel turbo boost)

GPU:

intel hd 4000 / amd radeon 7730m 2GB vram (switchable graphics)

RAM:

16GB

SDD/HDD:

250GB msata ssd (OS)

750GB hdd (storage)

KEYBOARD/MOUSE/HEADSET:

G.SKILL RIPJAWS KM780 RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard - Cherry MX Red with Gaming Keycaps

G.SKILL RIPJAWS MX780 USB Wired RGB Laser Gaming Mouse

HyperX Cloud Stereo Gaming Headset for PC / PS4 / Mac / Mobile - Black

MONITOR:

50IN HISENSE FLATSCREEN SMART TV / 60HZ @1080P

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OTHER ACC:
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Coboc EA-HDAC-10-BK 10ft. 28AWG Stranded Tinned Copper 18Gbps High Speed HDMI Cable with Ethernet w/Ferrite Cores,Black,M-M ,Ultra HDTV 4K x 2K & 3D Compatible - 4096x2160P@60Hz

sabrent 2.0 to sata/ide hard drive adapter (used for transfering info from hdd/ssd(s)

startech portable esata usb to sata standalone hdd/ssd duplicator dock (cloning hdd/ssd(s)).

syba sata adapter (converts an msata ssd to a standalone 2.5in ssd or usb attached device)

120GB msata ssd (storage) connects to the usb with an adapter or can be put in a drive bay coverter for the cdrom slot.

2 500GB usb hdd's (one has movies/tv shows/ect..., the other has drivers/exe(s)/ect...)

1 usb flash drive with a portable antivirus installed on it for better cleaning.

1 usb flash drive with bootable linux and windows

1 usb with an offline windows updates installer.

i have tons of different cords and adpaters for video/keyboards/mice/audio/usb/ect..

took a tiny desk and turned it into a high powered air filtered fan system that forces air through my laptop, i also have a smaller version (air filtered fan system) for travel.

also have about 20 older hdd's i have older OS's on that i can hook to my laptop and use.

along with 3 other laptops, 2 running linux and 1 stripped down to parts.

have a pile of older pc parts and older desktops that are collecting dust.

[daemon47]

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

most games work like this, some do it a bit different but still work out the same way.

example for rust would be:

fanastic: 92/8 (gpu > cpu)

beautiful: 78/22 (gpu > cpu)

good: 64/36 (gpu > cpu)

simple: 50/50 (gpu = cpu)

fast: 36/64 (cpu > gpu)

potato: 22/78 (cpu > gpu)

super potato: 8/92 (cpu > gpu)

Not true at all. Not only does it not change (or atleast not even minorly change) the ratio of GPU/CPU usage, it doesn't change much at all. I went from super potato and then all the way to fantastic. The average gpu usage went up by about 10% from super potato to fantastic whilst CPU usage didnt change at all. I don't even know why the graphics settings there exist, because they don't really do anything.


edit: mistaken on cache files and temp files. me stoopid. still though, its not something you have to worry about since programs often delete the files anyway.

[MonkehMaster]

Originally posted by Nobody?:

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

most games work like this, some do it a bit different but still work out the same way.

example for rust would be:

fanastic: 92/8 (gpu > cpu)

beautiful: 78/22 (gpu > cpu)

good: 64/36 (gpu > cpu)

simple: 50/50 (gpu = cpu)

fast: 36/64 (cpu > gpu)

potato: 22/78 (cpu > gpu)

super potato: 8/92 (cpu > gpu)

Not true at all. Not only does it not change (or atleast not even minorly change) the ratio of GPU/CPU usage, it doesn't change much at all. I went from super potato and then all the way to fantastic. The average gpu usage went up by about 10% from super potato to fantastic whilst CPU usage didnt change at all. I don't even know why the graphics settings there exist, because they don't really do anything.

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

and clean from temp files

its kind of odd how people still suggest this despite the fact its counter-intuitive. these temporary files exist for a reason. the only time you should delete temporary files is when they are actively causing a program to crash which is very, very rare.

those gpu/cpu percentages do change, your just not doing it right.

also those temp files are placed there temporarily when your pc installed something or uses something, they arent needed afterwards and always add more new copies of the same thing, temp files dont cause crashing and they only waste ssd/hdd space which essentially can slow down ssd/hdd performance.

edit: windows doesnt delete temp files, unless win10 changed that, win 7 doesnt tho.

[daemon47]

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

Originally posted by Nobody?:

Not true at all. Not only does it not change (or atleast not even minorly change) the ratio of GPU/CPU usage, it doesn't change much at all. I went from super potato and then all the way to fantastic. The average gpu usage went up by about 10% from super potato to fantastic whilst CPU usage didnt change at all. I don't even know why the graphics settings there exist, because they don't really do anything.




its kind of odd how people still suggest this despite the fact its counter-intuitive. these temporary files exist for a reason. the only time you should delete temporary files is when they are actively causing a program to crash which is very, very rare.

those gpu/cpu percentages do change, your just not doing it right.

would you care to explain how to do it 'right'

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

Originally posted by Nobody?:

Not true at all. Not only does it not change (or atleast not even minorly change) the ratio of GPU/CPU usage, it doesn't change much at all. I went from super potato and then all the way to fantastic. The average gpu usage went up by about 10% from super potato to fantastic whilst CPU usage didnt change at all. I don't even know why the graphics settings there exist, because they don't really do anything.




its kind of odd how people still suggest this despite the fact its counter-intuitive. these temporary files exist for a reason. the only time you should delete temporary files is when they are actively causing a program to crash which is very, very rare.

also those temp files are placed there temporarily when you pc installed something or uses something, they arent needed afterwards and always add more new copies of the same thing, temp files dont cause crashing and they only waste ssd/hdd space which essentially can slow down ssd/hdd performance.

Although true it's not something to worry about since programs will almost always delete them after being used. I thought your OP said cache files, which it did not.

[daemon47]

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

edit: windows doesnt delete temp files, unless win10 changed that, win 7 doesnt tho.

Theres a setting that automatically deletes temp files. 'storage sense' is its name. im pretty sure its enabled by default too

[MonkehMaster]

Originally posted by Nobody?:

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

those gpu/cpu percentages do change, your just not doing it right.

would you care to explain how to do it 'right'

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

also those temp files are placed there temporarily when you pc installed something or uses something, they arent needed afterwards and always add more new copies of the same thing, temp files dont cause crashing and they only waste ssd/hdd space which essentially can slow down ssd/hdd performance.

Although true it's not something to worry about since programs will almost always delete them after being used. I thought your OP said cache files, which it did not.

windows, disk cleanup and other programs i have used never delete temp files, atleast the ones in %temp%, check it out, im betting you have quite alot as it builds up after time.

the graphics settings change percentage of use depending on how you mix and match the settings, i dont feel like explaining in depth, would be a book.

[MonkehMaster]

Originally posted by Nobody?:

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

edit: windows doesnt delete temp files, unless win10 changed that, win 7 doesnt tho.

Theres a setting that automatically deletes temp files. 'storage sense' is its name

win10? setting? never heard or seen it, most likely not the temp files im talking about

[Mad Scientist]

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

Originally posted by lama:

Wait the percentages are CPU and GPU usage? Why on earth does CPU usage go down as you turn the graphics up? And why is "simple" 50% for both?

CPU usage shouldn't change much at all between the various settings, and it will usually never go up to 100% because you probably have more cores than the game uses.

you dont know much about video games do you, or pc's for that matter...

I take it he keeps deleting his posts everytime you respond.

Anyway, im surprised people dont notice CPU demand drops or increases based on settings. The number of people thinking they have bad performance because the GPU isn't at 100% is also really bad especially considering I've seen a good number of them thinking it has to be at 100%.

[MonkehMaster]

Originally posted by Orion:

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

you dont know much about video games do you, or pc's for that matter...

I take it he keeps deleting his posts everytime you respond.

Anyway, im surprised people dont notice CPU demand drops or increases based on settings. The number of people thinking they have bad performance because the GPU isn't at 100% is also really bad especially considering I've seen a good number of them thinking it has to be at 100%.

all of his comments were there before i went to sleep lol

ya, thats why i made this thread, too many of them asking why usage was low on gpu or cpu, heck i seen a video on how to get your cpu to run 100% on rust claiming you would get a huge performance increase, the vids solution was to disable half your cores lol.

i also mentioned in my OP that the example of percentages wasnt an exact math but just to show how most graphics setting in games worked and he pops in saying dumb stuff

[Talin]

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

Originally posted by Orion:

I take it he keeps deleting his posts everytime you respond.

Anyway, im surprised people dont notice CPU demand drops or increases based on settings. The number of people thinking they have bad performance because the GPU isn't at 100% is also really bad especially considering I've seen a good number of them thinking it has to be at 100%.

all of his comments were there before i went to sleep lol

ya, thats why i made this thread, too many of them asking why usage was low on gpu or cpu, heck i seen a video on how to get your cpu to run 100% on rust claiming you would get a huge performance increase, the vids solution was to disable half your cores lol.

i also mentioned in my OP that the example of percentages wasnt an exact math but just to show how most graphics setting in games worked and he pops in saying dumb stuff

I never knew anything that you posted until now. That is very useful and I will keep it screenshoted, thank you!

[MonkehMaster]

Originally posted by Talin2288:

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

all of his comments were there before i went to sleep lol

ya, thats why i made this thread, too many of them asking why usage was low on gpu or cpu, heck i seen a video on how to get your cpu to run 100% on rust claiming you would get a huge performance increase, the vids solution was to disable half your cores lol.

i also mentioned in my OP that the example of percentages wasnt an exact math but just to show how most graphics setting in games worked and he pops in saying dumb stuff

I never knew anything that you posted until now. That is very useful and I will keep it screenshoted, thank you!

np, just trying to help and also steer people in the right direction

i will keep adding more stuff i forgot to mention or gets brought up.

[MonkehMaster]

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

updated OP with a bit more info, including some rust console commands that show pc performance in game (resources that the game is using, not the total your pc is using) for people who dont have programs that already show it.

updated a little more to the OP on top of my quoted comment.