Basic UI question - my alchemist won't cast

[craig234]

I'm not quite clear on the casting.

My battlemage clicked as few buttons and seemed to discover the shock spell from the upper right icon without a scroll.

Then he found a scroll for that spell - what use is the scroll now?

On the other hand, my alchmist has two magic skills, but can't open the casting menu. One is fire and he found a fire scroll but it doesn't do anything.

[Pajda]

Wizards and battlemages can cast spells with their bare hands - their hands are surrounded by the blue aura. Other characters, like your alchemist, need a magical wand, staff or an orb, to be able to invoke the runes for casting.

Scrolls are there for you to know how to cast, but if you do not have the required magic level, your caster will not and cannot memorize it. Either note it down on a piece of paper sideways or cast it, if able, after that you can throw away the scroll - or use it for puzzle solving ;)

[craig234]

So, my alchemist is useless for casting until he gets a wand staff or orb.

With that puzzle comment you have me hoarding scrolls...

[Dr.Disaster]

All classes beside Wizard or Battlemage need
- a magic wand or orb in hand to open the casting menu
- high enough Concentration skill level to equip said wand or orb
More powerful wands or orbs require higher Concentration skill level.

Spell scrolls are there to tell players rune combination and requirements for spells i.e. the Fireburst spell requires Fire Magic level 1 and the rune in the top left corner to cast. Past that spell scrolls serve no purpose and i.e. be used to hold a pressure plate down.

[craig234]

But just trying random combinations can find some spells without a scroll, like in Grimrock 1...

[Stabbey]

Originally posted by craig234:

But just trying random combinations can find some spells without a scroll, like in Grimrock 1...

Not anymore, all spells you are unable to cast just say "fizzle" even if it is a valid combination.

[craig234]

Naw, my battlemage learned shock at the beginning just by trying an icon, and later found the] scroll.

[TheMonkofDestiny]

Originally posted by craig234:

Naw, my battlemage learned shock at the beginning just by trying an icon, and later found the] scroll.

If you put 1 skill point into Air Magic on the character, then that's why they could cast it without the spell fizzling out.

The "click rune combinations blindly" approach yields nothing without the proper skill point allocations.

[craig234]

Right - I said they can be learned without a scroll. I didn't say they could without the skill.

[TheMonkofDestiny]

I guess I inferred too far from your previous posts that you seemed to be under the impression that the "click a random rune" method was how you were gaining access to the spells without putting the points where they needed to be first.

My mistake.