Haptic feedback

[jwrickner]

Saw it's getting haptic feedback on ps5 version. Wondering if steam version will support on my duelsense. Some games support it.

[itzDerrio]

yeah it’s confirmed to have it. there’s no reason to own a console anymore these days

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by itzDerrio:

There’s no reason to own a console anymore these days.

Exclusivities?
Lower price (a decent gaming computer is easily almost twice as expensive)?
Plug 'n Play without having to spend a while to configure or even patch a game if it cannot run?
Easier retrocompatibility when available?
Being able to own physically your games?

I dunno but many Xbox games are still exclusive (especially XBLA and 360), there are many Sony first party games that aren't ported on PC (or at least not badly) and Nintendo still has many exclusives (and the portability without having to spend much more).

[NBOX21]

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Originally posted by itzDerrio:

There’s no reason to own a console anymore these days.

Exclusivities?

Most, if not all end up on PC one way or another (e.g. many PS4 games)
Plus, the exclusive argument can also bounce back in PC's favour as there are plenty of great exclusive games (especially indies) you can only get on PC.

Lower price (a decent gaming computer is easily almost twice as expensive)?

A PC is very expensive for the initial cost, but you save so much more in the long run with free online, far better discounts on games, wider game selection etc.

Plug 'n Play without having to spend a while to configure or even patch a game if it cannot run?

Modern consoles are plug in and play in the same way that modern PCs are plug in and play.
We don't live in the 6th console generation anymore where you could just start playing right away simply by putting the disc in with no patches or installs necessary.

Also, you at least have the option to patch games on PC if the official product isn't up to expectations, case in point Colours Ultimate with the Project Re-Rainbow mod. You can't do that on consoles at all.

Easier retrocompatibility when available?

Moot point as outside of XBOX it's practically non-existent outside of remasters which also more often than not come to PC anyway.

[GrimAtrament]

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Originally posted by itzDerrio:

There’s no reason to own a console anymore these days.

Exclusivities?
,here are many Sony first party games that aren't ported on PC.

What sony exclusivitys? Can you name these?

God of war on PC

Spiderman on PC and spiderman 2 is on the way.

Stellar blade PC port also is on the way

Silent Hill 2 which was originally a planned PS5 exclusive on PC

Only exclusive theyve gotten was demon souls and let's face it that won't last long.

Only console this generation that has exclusives is Nintendo and that's because Nintendo would rather die before it puts any of its games on PC.

Also "Lower cost."

Argument stopped applying when a average controller cost you 80 to 100$

Your console cost you around 600 to 1000$

Only console that remains affordable is switch.

Hell a vr headset is cheeper then a series x or PS5 is right now. And has way more exclusive then either of them combined.

[Ikagura]

Most, if not all end up on PC one way or another (e.g. many PS4 games)
Plus, the exclusive argument can also bounce back in PC's favour as there are plenty of great exclusive games (especially indies) you can only get on PC.

There are many PS360 games still on consoles.

Most Nintendo games are exclusive to Nintendo consoles.

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Exclusivities?
,here are many Sony first party games that aren't ported on PC.

What sony exclusivitys? Can you name these?

God of war on PC

Spiderman on PC and spiderman 2 is on the way.

Stellar blade PC port also is on the way

Silent Hill 2 which was originally a planned PS5 exclusive on PC

Only exclusive theyve gotten was demon souls and let's face it that won't last long.

Only console this generation that has exclusives is Nintendo and that's because Nintendo would rather die before it puts any of its games on PC.

Also "Lower cost."

Argument stopped applying when a average controller cost you 80 to 100$

Your console cost you around 600 to 1000$

Only console that remains affordable is switch.

Hell a vr headset is cheeper then a series x or PS5 is right now. And has way more exclusive then either of them combined.

It's nuGoW not the classics.

Spiderman 2 is eh.

Stellar Blade is another Souls like.

SH 2 remake but not the original.

I'd rather have the og Demon's Souls and Bloodborne on PC.

Yes and they still manage to be good like that.

You'd still need to pay for the controller on PC.

Originally posted by NBOX21:

Lower price (a decent gaming computer is easily almost twice as expensive)?

A PC is very expensive for the initial cost, but you save so much more in the long run with free online, far better discounts on games, wider game selection etc.

Plug 'n Play without having to spend a while to configure or even patch a game if it cannot run?

Modern consoles are plug in and play in the same way that modern PCs are plug in and play.
We don't live in the 6th console generation anymore where you could just start playing right away simply by putting the disc in with no patches or installs necessary.

Also, you at least have the option to patch games on PC if the official product isn't up to expectations, case in point Colours Ultimate with the Project Re-Rainbow mod. You can't do that on consoles at all.

Easier retrocompatibility when available?

Moot point as outside of XBOX it's practically non-existent outside of remasters which also more often than not come to PC anyway.

Configuration is often for the first launch. For PC games it's always.

And most games are digital only so it's not like you can sell them back.

The Switch is still more or less plug n play.

Modding a game to make it work is already telling a lot about it.

[itzDerrio]

my pc was literally plug n play , i’ve only been pc gaming since 2022, & my PC feels no different than a console other than being 100% better with more things to do on it. i don’t even use keyboard & mouse , i still use a controller . my PS5 is like 95% useless. i was gonna get silent hill on it until i found out its also on PC

[NBOX21]

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Originally posted by me:

Most, if not all end up on PC one way or another (e.g. many PS4 games)
Plus, the exclusive argument can also bounce back in PC's favour as there are plenty of great exclusive games (especially indies) you can only get on PC.

There are many PS360 games still on consoles.

It's nuGoW not the classics.

SH 2 remake but not the original.

Are any of those games available for the PS4/5 but not PC?
Yeah, I thought not. The classic GoW games aren't available on the current gen PS systems, not even through emulation which PC has been able to do for years now.
(reminder that PCSX2 also lets you use your original game discs if you have a disc drive)

And instead of remastering old legacy games that people would've wanted to see remastered and give them much more of a reason to exist, Sony insists on remastering games you can already buy on the current gen systems and/or PC.

And most games are digital only so it's not like you can sell them back.

Let's not tell him that The Crew exists (a game with single player content that has always online DRM even on consoles, which have been taken offline earlier this year) so even disc copies cannot be resold anymore. Plenty of other physical games require online content downloads either for the complete game (Spyro Reignited) or to play at all (Modern Warfare 2).

Ever since the 8th console gen started, disc based games lost all practical purpose. The only difference between a disc and digital copy is that the former requires a disc inserted just to launch the game whereas the latter does not.

Modding a game to make it work is already telling a lot about it.

Can you use Project Re-Rainbow for the console versions of Colours Ultimate or the Dreamcast Conversion mod for the PS3/360 versions of Sonic Adventure? No? My point exactly.

I'm not saying that mods should exist to fix a game's core issues as they really shouldn't be necessary to make a game good - what I am saying is that mods can fix a game's core issues, which is still not possible on consoles. Meaning the console versions of Colours Ultimate are bad forever, whereas the PC version, while still not good, can be fixed and improved.

[Stock.]

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Also "Lower cost."

Argument stopped applying when a average controller cost you 80 to 100$

Your console cost you around 600 to 1000$

I bought my ps5 slim not too long ago brand new with a controller for ab 387 GBP/462.71 EUR/505.87 USD,
I'm not a ps5 gamer I'm a PC gamer I'm just saying that number is a bit blown out of proportion, maybe for a day 1 launch I can see it sure, but if you're not a diehard fan who would get the 30th anniversary, which is a bit expensive

[Stock.]

Originally posted by Stock.:

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

I'm not a ps5 gamer I'm a PC gamer

I only bought it for gta 6 lol i barely use it

[Enigma2442]

Originally posted by jwrickner:

Saw it's getting haptic feedback on ps5 version. Wondering if steam version will support on my duelsense. Some games support it.

From what I was messing with; so far there are no implementations of Dualsense features such as haptic feedback or controller speakers. Most games that do this on PC are Sony Games as other developers don't usually port them over to PC. It's a shame really so the best thing you can do for vibrations with a Dualsense controller is use Steam Input (The PS icons will still appear and you'll have basic vibrations)

[Shadowlet]

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Exclusivities?
,here are many Sony first party games that aren't ported on PC.

What sony exclusivitys? Can you name these?

God of war on PC

Spiderman on PC and spiderman 2 is on the way.

Stellar blade PC port also is on the way

Silent Hill 2 which was originally a planned PS5 exclusive on PC

Only exclusive theyve gotten was demon souls and let's face it that won't last long.

Only console this generation that has exclusives is Nintendo and that's because Nintendo would rather die before it puts any of its games on PC.

Also "Lower cost."

Argument stopped applying when a average controller cost you 80 to 100$

Your console cost you around 600 to 1000$

Only console that remains affordable is switch.

Hell a vr headset is cheeper then a series x or PS5 is right now. And has way more exclusive then either of them combined.

Uncharted Nathan Drake Collection

Gravity Rush 2

Gran Turismo

Astro Bot

Demon's Souls remake

Shadow of the Colossus remake

Bloodborne

MLB The Show

Ratchet and Clank 2016

The Last Guardian

Knack 1 and 2 baby

Infamous Second Son and First Light

Killzone Shadow Fall

Among other PS4/new PS5/or even PS3 releases.