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saltyfishboi Oct 31, 2024 @ 2:55am
120 FPS Caps at 75
It's in the title. Shadow Generations just straight up lies to me saying that I can set it up to 120, but the game actually caps out at 75. I feel like this is something I'd hear people complaining about if it was common, so I'm assuming it's not. Anyone know what's up?
Originally posted by JV:
Originally posted by saltyfishboi:
It's in the title. Shadow Generations just straight up lies to me saying that I can set it up to 120, but the game actually caps out at 75. I feel like this is something I'd hear people complaining about if it was common, so I'm assuming it's not. Anyone know what's up?

Disable vsync. If disabling it in game doesn't work, force disable it in the Nvidia control panel. Your monitor will only output 75 frames, but the game will render in 120 frames resulting in less input lag. Playing with vsync disabled at frame-rates above your monitor's max refresh rate gets you the lowest level of input lag. Playing with vsync disabled causes screen tearing, but you're obviously used to that and don't care. Many PC gamers prefer playing with vsync disabled over playing with the huge amount of input lag that vsync causes. Also, since you're on a low refresh rate monitor, you could probably use fast vsync in the nvidia control panel and get lower input lag and less screen tearing.
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Underdog Oct 31, 2024 @ 9:50pm 
Got a real dumb question for you. Is your monitor capable of 120hz? When you go to Windows > Display Settings, do you have it set to 120hz? Can further check your GPU settings and make sure there are no FPS limits.

It definitely goes to 120 FPS on 120hz+ monitors
saltyfishboi Oct 31, 2024 @ 11:14pm 
Originally posted by MVP:
Got a real dumb question for you. Is your monitor capable of 120hz? When you go to Windows > Display Settings, do you have it set to 120hz? Can further check your GPU settings and make sure there are no FPS limits.

It definitely goes to 120 FPS on 120hz+ monitors

No, but that hasn't stopped other games. Mine is 75. The refresh rate definitely helps but I can still see a massive difference in higher frame rates on my monitor. So if the game is capping due to my monitor... that's kinda dumb.
Last edited by saltyfishboi; Oct 31, 2024 @ 11:14pm
The Jade Fist Nov 1, 2024 @ 4:00am 
Originally posted by saltyfishboi:
Originally posted by MVP:
Got a real dumb question for you. Is your monitor capable of 120hz? When you go to Windows > Display Settings, do you have it set to 120hz? Can further check your GPU settings and make sure there are no FPS limits.

It definitely goes to 120 FPS on 120hz+ monitors

No, but that hasn't stopped other games. Mine is 75. The refresh rate definitely helps but I can still see a massive difference in higher frame rates on my monitor. So if the game is capping due to my monitor... that's kinda dumb.
You probably have screen tearing. That might be the difference you're seeing. I would recommend using Vsync and setting it to 60 fps. (G Sync if you got a monitor capable of it) If you got miss matched timing on frames that'll cause screen tear as the monitor is trying to display more than 1 frame at the same time to catch up.
Last edited by The Jade Fist; Nov 1, 2024 @ 4:01am
Underdog Nov 1, 2024 @ 5:26am 
Originally posted by saltyfishboi:
Originally posted by MVP:
Got a real dumb question for you. Is your monitor capable of 120hz? When you go to Windows > Display Settings, do you have it set to 120hz? Can further check your GPU settings and make sure there are no FPS limits.

It definitely goes to 120 FPS on 120hz+ monitors

No, but that hasn't stopped other games. Mine is 75. The refresh rate definitely helps but I can still see a massive difference in higher frame rates on my monitor. So if the game is capping due to my monitor... that's kinda dumb.

That's not dumb, that's how monitors work my friend. You can only get 75 FPS on a 75hz monitor...

EDIT: Just wanted to say, I'm not the one giving you clown reacts. I think most PC people have had questions on this at some point. Nothing wrong with asking a question
Last edited by Underdog; Nov 1, 2024 @ 5:50am
marrow_c57 Nov 1, 2024 @ 5:41am 
Originally posted by MVP:
That's not dumb, that's how monitors work my friend. You can only get 75 FPS on a 75hz monitor...

This poster speaks the truth OP. It doesn't matter if your GPU can pump out 120fps if your monitor is capped at 75hz. 75 fps is the max you will see.

If you want to learn more, here is an article that goes over fps vs monitor refresh rate.
https://www.howtogeek.com/898227/fps-vs-refresh-rate/

Below is a quote from it that directly relates to your situation.

"Although frames per second and refresh rate are separate things, the image improvements they can offer are tied to one another. Any performance increase in one will be capped by the lower performance of the other. For example, you won't notice the benefit of using a 144Hz display if your GPU can only achieve a frame rate of 60fps. And the same is true if your GPU can pump out a stable 120fps, but your monitor only supports 60Hz.

The disparity between frame rate and refresh rate could even result in screen tearing, where the displayed image appears mismatched horizontally, although technologies like VSync, G-Sync, and FreeSync make this less likely. To get the best results from your games the frame rate and refresh rate should be matched as closely as possible."
Last edited by marrow_c57; Nov 1, 2024 @ 5:41am
saltyfishboi Nov 1, 2024 @ 7:34am 
Originally posted by The Jade Fist:
Originally posted by saltyfishboi:

No, but that hasn't stopped other games. Mine is 75. The refresh rate definitely helps but I can still see a massive difference in higher frame rates on my monitor. So if the game is capping due to my monitor... that's kinda dumb.
You probably have screen tearing. That might be the difference you're seeing. I would recommend using Vsync and setting it to 60 fps. (G Sync if you got a monitor capable of it) If you got miss matched timing on frames that'll cause screen tear as the monitor is trying to display more than 1 frame at the same time to catch up.

You would be wrong, but sure buddy. I also don't know why I'd set my limit to 60 when I'm getting an impressively stable 75, but you do you I guess.
saltyfishboi Nov 1, 2024 @ 7:40am 
Originally posted by marrow_c57:
Originally posted by MVP:
That's not dumb, that's how monitors work my friend. You can only get 75 FPS on a 75hz monitor...

This poster speaks the truth OP. It doesn't matter if your GPU can pump out 120fps if your monitor is capped at 75hz. 75 fps is the max you will see.

If you want to learn more, here is an article that goes over fps vs monitor refresh rate.
https://www.howtogeek.com/898227/fps-vs-refresh-rate/

Below is a quote from it that directly relates to your situation.

"Although frames per second and refresh rate are separate things, the image improvements they can offer are tied to one another. Any performance increase in one will be capped by the lower performance of the other. For example, you won't notice the benefit of using a 144Hz display if your GPU can only achieve a frame rate of 60fps. And the same is true if your GPU can pump out a stable 120fps, but your monitor only supports 60Hz.

The disparity between frame rate and refresh rate could even result in screen tearing, where the displayed image appears mismatched horizontally, although technologies like VSync, G-Sync, and FreeSync make this less likely. To get the best results from your games the frame rate and refresh rate should be matched as closely as possible."

The image refresh might be capped, but the game responsiveness is not. Frame rate is not a purely visual thing, it effects every aspect of the game. The timing of mechanics is tied to the frame rate more often than not, not actual time. That's why games work less at lower frame rates. And that's why it's dumb to cap the game's FPS at 75 just because my monitor can't go higher.
Rayza Nov 1, 2024 @ 7:54am 
Complaining you can't get 120fps on a 75hz monitor, ffs.
saltyfishboi Nov 1, 2024 @ 8:24am 
Originally posted by Rayza:
Complaining you can't get 120fps on a 75hz monitor, ffs.

Just because you think FPS is all about the visuals doesn't mean that's actually how the software works.
Rings Nov 1, 2024 @ 8:32am 
You have a 75Hz monitor, of course it will be capped at 75fps lol. You need to disable VSync if you want it to render at a higher FPS.
Underdog Nov 1, 2024 @ 8:33am 
Originally posted by saltyfishboi:
Originally posted by Rayza:
Complaining you can't get 120fps on a 75hz monitor, ffs.

Just because you think FPS is all about the visuals doesn't mean that's actually how the software works.

Guess you deserve the clown reacts then lashing about like this haha...
saltyfishboi Nov 1, 2024 @ 8:37am 
Originally posted by MVP:
Originally posted by saltyfishboi:

Just because you think FPS is all about the visuals doesn't mean that's actually how the software works.

Guess you deserve the clown reacts then lashing about like this haha...

"Lashing out"? You mean treating some guy that's obviously just trying to start a fight like an idiot? I don't think you know what that term means.
saltyfishboi Nov 1, 2024 @ 8:40am 
Originally posted by Rings:
You have a 75Hz monitor, of course it will be capped at 75fps lol. You need to disable VSync if you want it to render at a higher FPS.

He says, like that's just how every game always does it when it's verifiably not.
Rings Nov 1, 2024 @ 9:27am 
Originally posted by saltyfishboi:
Originally posted by Rings:
You have a 75Hz monitor, of course it will be capped at 75fps lol. You need to disable VSync if you want it to render at a higher FPS.

He says, like that's just how every game always does it when it's verifiably not.
Oh, do go on. Verify for me how it's not how every game does it. I'll wait. I can verify that all games do it as well if you'd like. Currently able to get 300fps on Rocket League/Overwatch/etc. on a 120Hz monitor.
Mez Koo Nov 1, 2024 @ 11:27am 
You're not going to see more frames than your monitor can render its that simple but the increased responsiveness you experience could be because a frame limit such as vsync increasing render latency to enough of a degree that you're noticing it. If you want to turn off limits for reduced latency then do it but the monitor is not going to physically render more than 75 fps even if you can hit 120 in game.

But the answer to the OP question oh why its capped at 75 instead of 120 fps is that vsync is enabled and locked to your monitor's refresh rate which is 75hz.
Last edited by Mez Koo; Nov 1, 2024 @ 11:29am
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