SONIC X SHADOW GENERATIONS

SONIC X SHADOW GENERATIONS

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SmallW0lf Feb 1, 2024 @ 12:22pm
Why isnt this DLC for OG generations?
Hold up!? why isn't this just dlc for Sonic Generations the fact we're gonna pay for the same thing but shadow dlc feels scummy if you ask me, besides it's the same game but shadow it could've been just DLC for Sonic Generations, crazy
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Owlet VII Feb 1, 2024 @ 12:23pm 
Because the goal is to sell you the same ♥♥♥♥ again, duh
SmallW0lf Feb 1, 2024 @ 12:25pm 
then all the mods will be unless then and im that type of person that cares about Sonic Generations mods 💀
shadow glazer Feb 1, 2024 @ 12:34pm 
We don't know yet but in the description it says a built from the ground up remaster (remake) and at the start of the trailer it says not representative off actual gameplay, this is probably me huffing massive amounts of Copium but the person who leaked this before it was announced said it was remade on Hedgehog engine 2 so maybe it wasn't ready to show gens remade and showed us old gens footage as the Shadow segments looked much better than the gens footage they showed (Looked like standard gens footage in the trailer) I wouldn't put it past Sega to have not showed us the current build because remember when they first dropped Frontiers they showed us 6 month old footage. But Sega are money hungry and lazy so yeah you could also be right and that they're ripping us off will have to wait and see. Would be a good idea for anyone who doesn't own OG gens to purchase it before this comes out for the massive mod library incase Sega delist the og version to force us to buy the seizure inducing one lol
Dolphyn Feb 1, 2024 @ 12:44pm 
The reach would be pretty awful if they did that. Not to mention they don't *have* this game on modern consoles
iransilver Feb 1, 2024 @ 1:20pm 
this is a 2 pack, sonic generations and shadow generations, shadow generations its a new game
MJayzing Feb 1, 2024 @ 1:28pm 
because it came out over ten years ago
TheMythicRai Feb 1, 2024 @ 3:57pm 
Why that is not a DLC is because that game runs on a newer engine with improved visuals and newer models. So they are shipping the game in it's newest form factor.
SmallW0lf Feb 1, 2024 @ 4:07pm 
it somehow look the same in sonic and classic sonic's side it's just the shadow is just being added :ReBotSeriously:
JDlightside Feb 2, 2024 @ 8:37am 
Either way, it's probable a lot of the mods for generations would get broken even if this was just an update for dlc
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RPG Gamer Man Feb 2, 2024 @ 10:14am 
Originally posted by Owlet VII:
Because the goal is to sell you the same ♥♥♥♥ again, duh

Also greed factor. DLC will not see as much as a full game.
GlaceonChireiden Feb 2, 2024 @ 10:51am 
Originally posted by iransilver16:
this is a 2 pack, sonic generations and shadow generations, shadow generations its a new game
This is the short of it, yeah.

A lot of descriptions as well as the japanese twitter are really making it seem like this isn't Sonic Generations + Shadow content, and moreso that it is "Sonic Generations and Shadow Generations". A collection, but one of the games in it are entirely new.

That's not taking into account the obvious stuff like Shadow Generations being made in a different engine, most likely the same engine as Frontiers, as opposed to the now decade+ old engine Generations used.

Could they backport all this into Generations, sure. But why would they? Why would they go back and use such an old engine when they have a newer, potentially much cleaner engine at their disposal?

If you're still wondering why new content is being treated as something worth selling separately, well welcome to video games. I can only assume you're new here.
This is the norm. You'll get used to it.
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RPG Gamer Man Feb 2, 2024 @ 10:53am 
Originally posted by JustSomeLego:
Originally posted by iransilver16:
this is a 2 pack, sonic generations and shadow generations, shadow generations its a new game
This is the short of it, yeah.

A lot of descriptions as well as the japanese twitter are really making it seem like this isn't Sonic Generations + Shadow content, and moreso that it is "Sonic Generations and Shadow Generations". A collection, but one of the games in it are entirely new.

That's not taking into account the obvious stuff like Shadow Generations being made in a different engine, most likely the same engine as Frontiers, as opposed to the now decade+ old engine Generations used.

Could they backport all this into Generations, sure. But why would they? Why would they go back and use such an old engine when they have a newer, potentially much cleaner engine at their disposal?

If you're still wondering why new content is being treated as something worth selling separately, well welcome to video games. I can only assume you're new here.
This is the norm. You'll get used to it.

Yep. Alot of that stuff is true. I agree with you completly. Yea, also backputting the shadow stuff into this version can be hard too. I suppose they will use some new engine like sonic frontiers one like you said.

Still i bet SEGA will delist the original Sonic Generations when this comes out. It is in SEGA's history that they do this and done it before in the past.
Last edited by RPG Gamer Man; Feb 2, 2024 @ 10:55am
GlaceonChireiden Feb 2, 2024 @ 10:58am 
Originally posted by RPG Gamer Man:
Originally posted by JustSomeLego:
This is the short of it, yeah.

A lot of descriptions as well as the japanese twitter are really making it seem like this isn't Sonic Generations + Shadow content, and moreso that it is "Sonic Generations and Shadow Generations". A collection, but one of the games in it are entirely new.

That's not taking into account the obvious stuff like Shadow Generations being made in a different engine, most likely the same engine as Frontiers, as opposed to the now decade+ old engine Generations used.

Could they backport all this into Generations, sure. But why would they? Why would they go back and use such an old engine when they have a newer, potentially much cleaner engine at their disposal?

If you're still wondering why new content is being treated as something worth selling separately, well welcome to video games. I can only assume you're new here.
This is the norm. You'll get used to it.

Yep. Alot of that stuff is true. I agree with you completly. Yea, also backputting the shadow stuff into this version can be hard too. I suppose they will use some new engine like sonic frontiers one like you said.

Still i bet SEGA will delist the original Sonic Generations when this comes out. It is in SEGA's history that they do this and done it before in the past.
If Sonic Origins was anything to go by, Generations is absolutely getting delisted once Sonic Shadow Gens releases.

I don't think it's as big of a deal as people are making it out to be, especially considering how poor Generations' pc port has always been so I understand Sega wanting to replace it with something actually functional, but I get why it would be annoying. But the thing is that it goes on sale so often and for so cheap that by this point if you had an interest in Sonic Generations, you'd have it by now.

Ideally sega would do what Ori and the Blind Forest did. When that Definitive edition released, the original was delisted but was instead given to you alongside purchases of the DE. You got two games pretty much, the better version of the game and a downloadable copy of the original game added to your library.
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RPG Gamer Man Feb 2, 2024 @ 11:01am 
Originally posted by JustSomeLego:
Originally posted by RPG Gamer Man:

Yep. Alot of that stuff is true. I agree with you completly. Yea, also backputting the shadow stuff into this version can be hard too. I suppose they will use some new engine like sonic frontiers one like you said.

Still i bet SEGA will delist the original Sonic Generations when this comes out. It is in SEGA's history that they do this and done it before in the past.
If Sonic Origins was anything to go by, Generations is absolutely getting delisted once Sonic Shadow Gens releases.

I don't think it's as big of a deal as people are making it out to be, especially considering how poor Generations' pc port has always been so I understand Sega wanting to replace it with something actually functional, but I get why it would be annoying. It goes on sale so often and for so cheap that by this point if you had an interest in Sonic Generations, you'd have it by now.

Ideally sega would do what Ori and the Blind Forest did. When that Definitive edition released, the original was delisted but was instead given to you alongside purchases of the DE. You got two games pretty much, the better version of the game and a downloadable copy of the original game added to your library.

That is not a bad idea offering the orignal version as a incentive, but sadly not all developers do this kind of thing. What the ORI developers did was wonderful. I think this method should be used by more games on steam when delisting original versions.
Ness_and_Sonic Feb 2, 2024 @ 11:31am 
Originally posted by RPG Gamer Man:
That is not a bad idea offering the orignal version as a incentive, but sadly not all developers do this kind of thing. What the ORI developers did was wonderful. I think this method should be used by more games on steam when delisting original versions.
That's what should have been done with Sonic Origins, but they fumbled big time with that. As a result, people that got Origins lost out on Steam Workshop support over the approach Sega took.
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