I'm... I'm stuck in the tutorial and I need help...

[Olav Grey]

I'm ashamed to admit it but I'm stuck in the tutorial. I'm at the orbrit factory and I'm being told to put a quartz into my orbit... I think I did. I bought an Attack (Red) quarts, and a Grey time quarts, one for Estelle and one for Joshua.

I than put both quartz into slots in the orbits of their respective owners, attack to Estelle and Time to Joshua...

Yet I can't proceed. I don't have money to open a slot in either, or buy another quartz... I'm extremely confused. Did I do soemthing wrong or am I missing a step? The chart doesn't help me because I dont' know what I'm looking for in it...

[Neoripo]

Originally posted by meginb:

I really have no clue how people get stuck on this part... unless there's a bug somehow. Having played through 4 times though, I've never encountered problems like this.

With the comments here, I think it's because people don't read/expect from the game to give them some leeway about how to complete the tutorial.
I myself bought the quartz and placed it before opening a new slot, so of course the game told me I didn't do it.
It's like pressing crouch in a FPS jump tutorial before pressing jump, and the game saying "you failed the tutorial", which would be completely correct.

[Olav Grey]

Originally posted by Neoripo:

Originally posted by meginb:

I really have no clue how people get stuck on this part... unless there's a bug somehow. Having played through 4 times though, I've never encountered problems like this.

With the comments here, I think it's because people don't read/expect from the game to give them some leeway about how to complete the tutorial.
I myself bought the quartz and placed it before opening a new slot, so of course the game told me I didn't do it.
It's like pressing crouch in a FPS jump tutorial before pressing jump, and the game saying "you failed the tutorial", which would be completely correct.

I followed the tutorial to a T I thought and it just didn't work... mind you I haven't tried in a while...

[Erpy]

In your opening post, you installed a quartz on Estelle that only gave her attack magic and no healing magic, despite the game telling you to do the latter, so it wasn't exactly to a T. I guess the game could have just flat-out told you: give Estelle a water quartz, but apparantly it didn't want to be that blatant.

[Letari]

It says right in the dialogue what to do:

1.Estelle can use any elemental quartz and Joshua has to have a time quartz.

2.You get enough septith to buy one of each quartz.

3.Schera then tells you to equip a recovery and attack quartz.

4.You can see what abilities the different quartz give you by equipping each one.

5.Joshua has to use the time quartz.

6. Estelle is left with using the water one since it's the only one that has a recovery spell.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=401483592

The point is to read and find out what each quartz does so you can equip your party for the proper roles you'll be needing...which is why it's a tutorial.

[tej]

To address the couple of people who are questioning the game quality at this point and whether it gets easier or more clear, I say yes and no. This is about as in depth you are going to get on how to use your pocket watches and tiny gems (orbments and quartz). The rest you have to learn on your own using the bracer handbook and trial and error. Or reading on the forum and asking questions. Once you get through the tutorial then the game opens up so to speak. You will have a task to complete and be told, "go do it." Usually you can wander around, do some side quests, and take care of the task at your leisure. Not always however, there are a few places where, like the tutorial orbment shop, where you will be prevented from going anywhere except the next objective. Those instances are "easier" in the fact that Scherazard or Joshua or whomever will sarcastically remind you where to go and once you go there the next event will begin.

As for your orbments and magic, you get the chance to get familiar with battle, healing, magic, crafts, arts, etc. before you are get buried with total freedom over your orbments and figuring out magic and effects on your own. That is because you only get a handful of new quartz each chapter (52 in total I think) and it takes a fair amount of sepith, and therefore time, to open new slots to put quartz into. Buy better quartz when you get to a new city and open whatever slots you can. You will likely find yourselves just replacing a quartz with a better version (like impede 2 for impede 1) in the beginning. When you pick a quartz to install, you are shown what new spells it adds in the menu so that makes it easy. Eventually though, you will want better spells and that is when you have to figure out exactly how to use the orbment and will be annoyed that some characters have terrible arrangements which limit what you can do with them. This is where the notebook really comes in. It gives you a list of every spell in the game, what exactly the requirements are to give it to a character, and what the spell does. To get the highest level spells you will have to commit a character totally to it. There are not enough slots (or sometimes quartz because they are so expensive) to have a character be able to cast the highest level fire and earth spells at the same time for example. Finally, what some quartz do is also not clear immediately. Check all the tabs in the bracer notebook and you figure it out though.

[sorathecrow]

Originally posted by tej:

The rest you have to learn on your own using the bracer handbook and trial and error. Or reading on the forum and asking questions.

Or using google. My life changed when I discovered gamefaqs almost ten years ago. And wikis. And let's plays (screenshot/video). Actually, if you haven't even tried any of the above options, wait to ask questions on forums...

[tej]

Yeah, I should have mentioned gamefaqs, I thought about it. I have always gone straight there when I couldn't figure something out but the forums here seem to be helpful to many. I've never tried to use a Let's Play video for help though, usually just to remind myself about some older game (like watch an ending on that Sega CD game I never finished) or to see if I want a new game or not.

[RADKILLA[420]]

happened to me also and im super duper smort!

[Stick]

Happened to me too, got thrown off by the word "recovery" and the name "HP 1" was a bit misleading and I got lost equipping... but after I hamfisted my way through that I was good for the rest of the game.