The Ending (Massive Spoilers!!!!)

[Maxton]

Lets talk about the ending everyone, your theories about "Professor Alba" and his group, any news about the Second Chapter, and any discussions about the game in general!

Lets keep it clean everyone, please no yelling:)

[Erpy]

First of all, folks who've already played SC, no spoilers or even "confirms or denials", please. Thanks

Anyway, the ending is both awesome and sadistic at the same time. As a cliffhanger, it works extremely well, but it's also the reason why the wait is so extremely painful. Ugh.

The scene where Alba's true name and nature are revealed is still one of my favorite scenes in the game for a great many reasons. You've had characters before who were friendly at first turn out to be villains, like Josette, Dalmore and Richard, but somehow it's the Weissmann scene that truly seem to scream at you that nobody can be trusted. Joshua mentioned how Alba always made him really uncomfortable for some reason and after seeing that scene and replaying the game, that uneasy feeling is irrevocably transferred to the player upon seeing any scene with Alba in it.

With Richard behind bars, it was nice to see another main villain step up and instead of emulating Richard, Alba instead went completely the other way, immediately defining himself as a loathsome and utterly evil villain whom most FC-players have been aching to beat up for years now. You have to admire how well he played his cards, up to the point where he briefly slips back into his Professor Alba role when talking to Estelle, giving the player that knowing look that seems to be there purely to mock you.

A nice detail about Weissmann's organisation was that its existence was hinted at before the prologue even officially started. Before he took that airship out of Rolent, Cassius mentioned that there seemed to be some kind of movement in Erebonia and that it was nothing overt, which was what worried him. I'm fairly sure that the "movement" he was talking about was Ouroboros.

Someone mentioned this before, but Weissmann didn't really "change" his name but rather translated it. Weiss is German for white. Alba is Latin for white.

[Missilepom]

Just to add an interesting little detail, the prof's nickname is 《白面》in both the Japanese & Chinese version, literally meaning "white face". Of course, that makes little sense in English, so it was translated as "The Faceless" in the English version.

[Maxton]

Erpy님이 먼저 게시:

First of all, folks who've already played SC, no spoilers or even "confirms or denials", please. Thanks

Anyway, the ending is both awesome and sadistic at the same time. As a cliffhanger, it works extremely well, but it's also the reason why the wait is so extremely painful. Ugh.

The scene where Alba's true name and nature are revealed is still one of my favorite scenes in the game for a great many reasons. You've had characters before who were friendly at first turn out to be villains, like Josette, Dalmore and Richard, but somehow it's the Weissmann scene that truly seem to scream at you that nobody can be trusted. Joshua mentioned how Alba always made him really uncomfortable for some reason and after seeing that scene and replaying the game, that uneasy feeling is irrevocably transferred to the player upon seeing any scene with Alba in it.

With Richard behind bars, it was nice to see another main villain step up and instead of emulating Richard, Alba instead went completely the other way, immediately defining himself as a loathsome and utterly evil villain whom most FC-players have been aching to beat up for years now. You have to admire how well he played his cards, up to the point where he briefly slips back into his Professor Alba role when talking to Estelle, giving the player that knowing look that seems to be there purely to mock you.

A nice detail about Weissmann's organisation was that its existence was hinted at before the prologue even officially started. Before he took that airship out of Rolent, Cassius mentioned that there seemed to be some kind of movement in Erebonia and that it was nothing overt, which was what worried him. I'm fairly sure that the "movement" he was talking about was Ouroboros.

Someone mentioned this before, but Weissmann didn't really "change" his name but rather translated it. Weiss is German for white. Alba is Latin for white.

Yeah, i thought that scene was superbly done, a character that seemed harmless actually being the main antagonist at that, very well done, also, from what was gathered from the trailer from the end credits, what do you think will happen in SC, my good man?

[Maxton]

jl260님이 먼저 게시:

Just to add an interesting little detail, the prof's nickname is 《白面》in both the Japanese & Chinese version, literally meaning "white face". Of course, that makes little sense in English, so it was translated as "The Faceless" in the English version.

Very cool, thanks for the translation!

[Erpy]

Yeah, i thought that scene was superbly done, a character that seemed harmless actually being the main antagonist at that, very well done, also, from what was gathered from the trailer from the end credits, what do you think will happen in SC, my good man?

I already got inadvertedly spoiled on some things over the years, but some things the trailer blatantly points out are that armed conflict seems to loom (we get a shot of approaching tanks after a flash of the Erebonian sigil) just as Liberl's army is at its weakest due to Richard's actions and that Liberl no longer has the advantage in airship technology it had during the 100 Days War.

It also shows that the tetracyclic towers have been activated (there was already a brief mention of that in the final issue of the Liberl News) and the shot of a giant...spacecraft or futuristic city in the sky is briefly shown.

Another shot shows a large flying creature breaking free, which is presumably the ancient dragon that Nial was so fond of referring to as ludicrous alternative theories behind the various bad things that happened in FC.

I know that the trailer mentioned "special characters". These are most likely guest characters who briefly join your party but don't stick around in the long term.

[Radene]

Well all I'll say is that I figured him out to be the "real" man in the shadow from the fact that he appeared in the opening cinematic, and that his appearances were always just too damn convenient...

[Maxton]

Erpy님이 먼저 게시:

Yeah, i thought that scene was superbly done, a character that seemed harmless actually being the main antagonist at that, very well done, also, from what was gathered from the trailer from the end credits, what do you think will happen in SC, my good man?

I already got inadvertedly spoiled on some things over the years, but some things the trailer blatantly points out are that armed conflict seems to loom (we get a shot of approaching tanks after a flash of the Erebonian sigil) just as Liberl's army is at its weakest due to Richard's actions and that Liberl no longer has the advantage in airship technology it had during the 100 Days War.

It also shows that the tetracyclic towers have been activated (there was already a brief mention of that in the final issue of the Liberl News) and the shot of a giant...spacecraft or futuristic city in the sky is briefly shown.

Another shot shows a large flying creature breaking free, which is presumably the ancient dragon that Nial was so fond of referring to as ludicrous alternative theories behind the various bad things that happened in FC.

I know that the trailer mentioned "special characters". These are most likely guest characters who briefly join your party but don't stick around in the long term.

The only part of the plot that confuses me about the story of the first game is what Lorence is, and how he relates to Ouroborus and Weissman

[Erpy]

Weissmann's words "even with HIM on our side" referred to Lorence, though Lorence isn't his real name, it was part of the fake identity he used when he entered the Intelligence Division. (Joshua actually mentioned his real name in that scene) Weissmann's words mean that L. is a member of Ouroboros, just like Joshua used to be, who infiltrated the Intelligence Division in order to help carry out the plan though he already knew Joshua before then. Take a good look again at the flashback pictures during the scene where Joshua tells Estelle about his past.

That's pretty much all that's said about L. in this game.

[Maxton]

Erpy님이 먼저 게시:

Weissmann's words "even with HIM on our side" referred to Lorence, though Lorence isn't his real name, it was part of the fake identity he used when he entered the Intelligence Division. (Joshua actually mentioned his real name in that scene) Weissmann's words mean that L. is a member of Ouroboros, just like Joshua used to be, who infiltrated the Intelligence Division in order to help carry out the plan though he already knew Joshua before then. Take a good look again at the flashback pictures during the scene where Joshua tells Estelle about his past.

That's pretty much all that's said about L. in this game.

Okay, thank you, ill try and look at that scene again, wasn't he in the school play in the crowd?

[SchwartZero]

Yes, and that long grey-coat you see him wearing, is going to be his main look in the sequel. As seen on the box art of SC.

[Maxton]

SchwartZero95님이 먼저 게시:

Yes, and that long grey-coat you see him wearing, is going to be his main look in the sequel. As seen on the box art of SC.

Oh cool, also isn't Weissman, or professsor Alba, in every single chapter of the game, FC?

[SchwartZero]

In the Prologue, you meet him in the first Esmelas Tower.

In Chapter 2 you meet him at the Jenis Royal Academy campus.

In Chapter 3 he's an eyewitness.

In Chapter 4 he appears both at the start and end of the chapter.

Not really sure about Chapter 1 though. Erpy probably remembers better than me.

[Maxton]

SchwartZero95님이 먼저 게시:

In the Prologue, you meet him in the first Esmelas Tower.

In Chapter 2 you meet him at the Jenis Royal Academy campus.

In Chapter 3 he's an eyewitness.

In Chapter 4 he appears both at the start and end of the chapter.

Not really sure about Chapter 1 though. Erpy probably remembers better than me.

Yeah, he always pops up in every major event Estelle and Joshua are in, right when hes needed, and that interaction with him and Joshua really sets up his character, a terrible terrible being of pure hate, also, isn't he kinda set up as some sorta god in the final interaction right?

[Erpy]

Maxton님이 먼저 게시:

SchwartZero95님이 먼저 게시:

In the Prologue, you meet him in the first Esmelas Tower.

In Chapter 2 you meet him at the Jenis Royal Academy campus.

In Chapter 3 he's an eyewitness.

In Chapter 4 he appears both at the start and end of the chapter.

Not really sure about Chapter 1 though. Erpy probably remembers better than me.

Yeah, he always pops up in every major event Estelle and Joshua are in, right when hes needed, and that interaction with him and Joshua really sets up his character, a terrible terrible being of pure hate, also, isn't he kinda set up as some sorta god in the final interaction right?

Not exactly a god, but definitely a very capable strategist who planned the whole thing 5 or more years in advance. He's also shown to have actual powers of his own unlike the heroes who can only use battle orbments to create magic-like effects.

Also the only two times Weissmann appears when he's "needed" is right after the factory attack and when Estelle and Joshua run into trouble at Sanktheim Gate. (Cassius was probably finishing up his stuff in Erebonia, so Weissmann started helping the other team in order to keep the pressure on Richard and force him to proceed with his plans at full speed) All the other times (in the prologue, chapter 1, chapter 2 and the half-way point of chapter 4) he's just there. His appearances really aren't that much more convenient than Nial and Dorothy's who also tend to pop up whenever they're needed.

Alba does appear in Chapter 1, it's an optional encounter. If you explore the Amberl Tower after dropping off Olivier in Bose, you'll hear someone talking on the the floor above you as soon as you enter the building and Schera suggests investigating. When you reach the "shrine" on the 5th floor, you'll see Alba getting attacked by some monsters, which you get to fight off.

Estelle then introduces Alba to Schera and the latter asks him who he was talking to. Alba replies that he was talking to himself and that he had the habit of doing that whenever he was busy investigating something because it helped him order his thoughts. (which isn't true, since he wasn't doing this while he's investigating the device on top of the Esmelas Tower or the exhibition at the Academy) Schera then intimidates him into joining them back down and after you leave the building, Alba thanks you for saving him, promises to leave some mira at the guild for your help and then walks off, leaving Schera to suggest that since he made it all the way up to the 5th floor, there may be more to him than meets the eye. It doesn't really offer more than that though.

Since this is the one optional encounter with Alba, the game affords itself to make him appear slightly more suspicious, though it doesn't really offer any clues that Alba's evil...after all, even several members of your party (Olivier, Kloe and Zane) play innocent and keep stuff under wraps from time to time.

I'm kind of hoping SC will provide an answer about who Alba was meeting in this particular event. (probably Lorence)

[SchwartZero]

Well him being at the Campus was not just a coincidence. Considering Loe- Uhm, Lorence, was also there. They were probably chatting and planning some things.

Not to mention, Joshua chasing some ''silver haired'' guy to the Old Schoolhouse and not remembering anything afterwards. I'm guessing that was the work of someone.

But you already knew that.