Temtem: Swarm

Temtem: Swarm

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Swordking123 Nov 27, 2024 @ 3:02pm
Technique Pool For A Match Is Predetermined?
I have played several matches where, no matter how many times I choose to upgrade instead of grabbing a new technique or gear, I get the same things. it should be near impossible for me to pull the same five things from level 5 to 31, in a dozen different matches.

It gives a feeling that the second you launch your match, the game determines what handful of techniques and gear items you are going to get. I have played as Platypet 4 times since I unlocked Heatsink and have no pulled it ONCE and seen HydroTurbine a singular time despite fishing for them extensively.
Originally posted by Tsukki:
No. Technique Pools are completely random for all Tems, and on all arenas. The game doesn't even take the maps as a factor for techniques in any way or form.
What you're experiencing is pure RNG. Gears and Techniques have a rarity associated with them, from common to epic. You're more likely to see common Gears and Techniques, as the rarer ones are just that, rarer.
Your Luck skill can positively influence the perks you're offered throughout the game, I recommend giving that a boost!
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Tanyon Nov 27, 2024 @ 6:44pm 
I would also like to know this.. there are some that in my opinion are so good.. not to have them severely handicaps you.. Holster being probably the biggest one.. there was a stretch where I did not see it for 8 straight games..

While I do think there is skill in this game.. the RNG factor is WAYYY more important. I feel like most runs I'm just going with whatever because I have no choice and then 1 out of every 5 runs I get to actually play like the god I was meant to be.

My highest damage on a character on the same map is about 700k.. my lowest.. was about 280k lol.. that is such an incredible difference and all because :RNG:

My buddy and I did have a great time though.. we leveled up two toons each fully and beat the game a couple times. Probably come back for the next update.
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Tsukki  [developer] Nov 28, 2024 @ 12:05am 
No. Technique Pools are completely random for all Tems, and on all arenas. The game doesn't even take the maps as a factor for techniques in any way or form.
What you're experiencing is pure RNG. Gears and Techniques have a rarity associated with them, from common to epic. You're more likely to see common Gears and Techniques, as the rarer ones are just that, rarer.
Your Luck skill can positively influence the perks you're offered throughout the game, I recommend giving that a boost!
Alva Buddha Nov 28, 2024 @ 5:22am 
Originally posted by Tsukki:
No. Technique Pools are completely random for all Tems, and on all arenas. The game doesn't even take the maps as a factor for techniques in any way or form.
What you're experiencing is pure RNG. Gears and Techniques have a rarity associated with them, from common to epic. You're more likely to see common Gears and Techniques, as the rarer ones are just that, rarer.
Your Luck skill can positively influence the perks you're offered throughout the game, I recommend giving that a boost!

Anecdotal evidence seems to suggest that this is not true, or, if it is, you need to review and change your rng and luck algorithm. It's not about perfect rng, or accurate luck. It's about what feels fair, and feels lucky.

Even with max luck on the second melee tem (the earth monkey), I have never seen the net while playing the tem. Moreover I have also never seen the normal attacks (e.g. the ki area attack) while playing that tem, although those would be synergistic, given the tanky melee attack focus (edit: and the fact that they are "common").

In contrast I see the rare drill and holster items multiple times across several tems, irrespective of luck levels.
Last edited by Alva Buddha; Nov 28, 2024 @ 5:23am
Tsukki  [developer] Nov 28, 2024 @ 5:50am 
Originally posted by Alva Buddha:
Originally posted by Tsukki:
No. Technique Pools are completely random for all Tems, and on all arenas. The game doesn't even take the maps as a factor for techniques in any way or form.
What you're experiencing is pure RNG. Gears and Techniques have a rarity associated with them, from common to epic. You're more likely to see common Gears and Techniques, as the rarer ones are just that, rarer.
Your Luck skill can positively influence the perks you're offered throughout the game, I recommend giving that a boost!

Anecdotal evidence seems to suggest that this is not true, or, if it is, you need to review and change your rng and luck algorithm. It's not about perfect rng, or accurate luck. It's about what feels fair, and feels lucky.

Even with max luck on the second melee tem (the earth monkey), I have never seen the net while playing the tem. Moreover I have also never seen the normal attacks (e.g. the ki area attack) while playing that tem, although those would be synergistic, given the tanky melee attack focus (edit: and the fact that they are "common").

In contrast I see the rare drill and holster items multiple times across several tems, irrespective of luck levels.

Sorry, I didn't explain it thoroughfully. Not all Temtem have all attacks in their pool, regardless of their rarity. Attacks for each Temtem go according to their typing and the type of the attacks. Ki Field is a neutral Technique and Smazee is melee/earth, so he doesn't have access to that.
A lot of players tell us they have trouble encountering other Gears and Techs, so anecdotal evidence doesn't seem conclusive across the board for now, sorry. We'll take a look at the numbers anyway, but so far it seems like pure RNG.
Brian Nov 28, 2024 @ 12:23pm 
Originally posted by Tsukki:
Not all Temtem have all attacks in their pool, regardless of their rarity. Attacks for each Temtem go according to their typing and the type of the attacks. Ki Field is a neutral Technique and Smazee is melee/earth, so he doesn't have access to that.
It'd be great if in the future we could see somewhere (before or in the match) what techs and gears does a Tem have access to.
[F9] Eniarus Nov 30, 2024 @ 11:05am 
Originally posted by Brian:
It'd be great if in the future we could see somewhere (before or in the match) what techs and gears does a Tem have access to.
If you check the synergy tab you can see all skill and passive available for the selected temtem during a map.
Panda Nov 30, 2024 @ 11:14am 
Originally posted by F9 Eniarus:
Originally posted by Brian:
It'd be great if in the future we could see somewhere (before or in the match) what techs and gears does a Tem have access to.
If you check the synergy tab you can see all skill and passive available for the selected temtem during a map.
it only shows the synergy list not all the tech/gear in the pool. It will only show you once you have actually done the full synergy unlock . else it will only show the skill i believe without the gear.
Last edited by Panda; Nov 30, 2024 @ 11:20am
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