Fair Rock Bottom nerf

[hci7t5r98t97yp0uo0gi8d56]

Edmund: "there is too much gamebreaking happening" also Edmund: adds myriad of broken items.

choose nerf:
1. It returns you to your basic stats.
2. If you are below chapter 4 it reduces your stats to those you had on start, if you are above chapter 4 it reduces you to stats you had on chapter 4
3. It halves your stats (but that wouldn't really make much sense with theme tho)
4. it removes all stat ups from pedestal
5. it removes all stat ups from unconventional ways (pills, black rune, void)
6. It returns your stats to basic, when you pick 3 items that add stat ups, you get "returning to golden days" effect, this effect adds your excised stats.

before someone comments: ThOsE aRe fRom AnTibIrtH!11!1

yes I know, but that doesn't change anything no matter what you say. It is his game and he is responsible for it, if he nonetheless added those items because he did not want to sadden devs or something like that, responsibility is still his.

if someone comments: ThIs iS juSt a GaMe, CHIILLL!!11

I will ignore them.

[Phosphophyllite]

Por lo mucho que sale rock bottom en una run me parece un nerfeo justo

[hci7t5r98t97yp0uo0gi8d56]

Originally posted by phosphophyllite:

Por lo mucho que sale rock bottom en una run me parece un nerfeo justo

yes, problem are not only unnecessarily broken items themself but how much they spawn in comparsion to others, it is ridiculous.

[Luna]

dude rock bottems not even that broken. half the time it doesnt even do anything because you simply dont find items that work well with it very often

[❤NYXIC❤]

Originally posted by Candy_fox:

dude rock bottems not even that broken. half the time it doesnt even do anything because you simply dont find items that work well with it very often

it has like a damned 0.5% chance of appearing and a 5% chance of being broken lol, so agreed.

[❤NYXIC❤]

Originally posted by ᠌ ⁧⁧NYXIC:

Originally posted by Candy_fox:

dude rock bottems not even that broken. half the time it doesnt even do anything because you simply dont find items that work well with it very often

it has like a damned 0.5% chance of appearing and a 5% chance of being broken lol, so agreed.

oh also, fun fact, op probably cheated his entire save lol. he has 100% with like 600 hours and all of his achievements were unlocked at the same time.

[Luna]

100% in 600 hours isnt that unrealistic. i got mine in around 640
and as for the unlocks all being at the same time theres a glitch that resets your steam achievements. most ppl dont believe me but you can look it up.
im not saying they didnt cheat but neither of those are proof that they did

[hci7t5r98t97yp0uo0gi8d56]

Originally posted by ᠌ ⁧⁧NYXIC:

Originally posted by ᠌ ⁧⁧NYXIC:

it has like a damned 0.5% chance of appearing and a 5% chance of being broken lol, so agreed.

oh also, fun fact, op probably cheated his entire save lol. he has 100% with like 600 hours and all of his achievements were unlocked at the same time.

yes I cheated it.

[hci7t5r98t97yp0uo0gi8d56]

Originally posted by ᠌ ⁧⁧NYXIC:

Originally posted by Candy_fox:

dude rock bottems not even that broken. half the time it doesnt even do anything because you simply dont find items that work well with it very often

it has like a damned 0.5% chance of appearing and a 5% chance of being broken lol, so agreed.

1. certain item pools are smaller. 2. reroll effects. 3. item spawning effects. 4. cracked crown. 5. Tained Isaac. 6. Eden.

it doesn't have 5% chance of being broken especially if you got it early in run.
if you get it on first floors, game becomes baby mode.

[❤NYXIC❤]

Originally posted by Candy_fox:

100% in 600 hours isnt that unrealistic. i got mine in around 640
and as for the unlocks all being at the same time theres a glitch that resets your steam achievements. most ppl dont believe me but you can look it up.
im not saying they didnt cheat but neither of those are proof that they did

as i said, probably.

Originally posted by hci7t5r98t97yp0uo0gi8d56:

Originally posted by ᠌ ⁧⁧NYXIC:

oh also, fun fact, op probably cheated his entire save lol. he has 100% with like 600 hours and all of his achievements were unlocked at the same time.

yes I cheated it.

however he did atleast admit to it tbh, credit where credit is due

[❤NYXIC❤]

Originally posted by hci7t5r98t97yp0uo0gi8d56:

Originally posted by ᠌ ⁧⁧NYXIC:

it has like a damned 0.5% chance of appearing and a 5% chance of being broken lol, so agreed.

1. certain item pools are smaller. 2. reroll effects. 3. item spawning effects. 4. cracked crown. 5. Tained Isaac. 6. Eden.

it doesn't have 5% chance of being broken especially if you got it early in run.
if you get it on first floors, game becomes baby mode.

that is literally so rare that it barely happens to anyone

[hci7t5r98t97yp0uo0gi8d56]

Originally posted by ᠌ ⁧⁧NYXIC:

Originally posted by Candy_fox:

100% in 600 hours isnt that unrealistic. i got mine in around 640
and as for the unlocks all being at the same time theres a glitch that resets your steam achievements. most ppl dont believe me but you can look it up.
im not saying they didnt cheat but neither of those are proof that they did

as i said, probably.

Originally posted by hci7t5r98t97yp0uo0gi8d56:

yes I cheated it.

however he did atleast admit to it tbh, credit where credit is due

what is wrong with it? I don't want to do all completion marks as Jacob & Esau which are completly not my thing same as other characters.
Some people have other activities than playing Isaac because that's not what life is about so yea, there is nothing wrong with that.

[❤NYXIC❤]

Originally posted by hci7t5r98t97yp0uo0gi8d56:

Originally posted by ᠌ ⁧⁧NYXIC:

as i said, probably.



however he did atleast admit to it tbh, credit where credit is due

what is wrong with it? I don't want to do all completion marks as Jacob & Esau which are completly not my thing same as other characters.
Some people have other activities than playing Isaac because that's not what life is about so yea, there is nothing wrong with that.

i cheated my j&e unlocks as well lol

[hci7t5r98t97yp0uo0gi8d56]

Originally posted by ᠌ ⁧⁧NYXIC:

Originally posted by hci7t5r98t97yp0uo0gi8d56:

what is wrong with it? I don't want to do all completion marks as Jacob & Esau which are completly not my thing same as other characters.
Some people have other activities than playing Isaac because that's not what life is about so yea, there is nothing wrong with that.

i cheated my j&e unlocks as well lol

are you forcefully trying to be toxic to me right now?

[Danizk0]

Originally posted by ᠌ ⁧⁧NYXIC:

Originally posted by Candy_fox:

dude rock bottems not even that broken. half the time it doesnt even do anything because you simply dont find items that work well with it very often

it has like a damned 0.5% chance of appearing and a 5% chance of being broken lol, so agreed.

If you can't come up with a way to use Rock Bottom in 95% of cases, I'm amazed that you were able to unlock it in the first place

OP is right, Repentance tried to balance a few overpowered items and then shat all over that attempt by adding more ridiculously broken stuff. Everything that came after Wrath of The Lamb has been a bad joke in terms of balancing.

[Danizk0]

Originally posted by ᠌ ⁧⁧NYXIC:

i cheated my j&e unlocks as well lol

Oh, that explains it