Is T. Apollyon supposed to be any good?

[fromage_enrage]

His "DPS locusts" take a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ eon to line up.
This character is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pathetic.
How are you supposed to get anything done on him

[Matt]

play the game normally but use abyss on items you don't like?

[Dyne]

all the budget went into giving bethany a synergy for every single item with her book so t. apollyon gets absolutely nothing special with his locusts, pls understand

[ToxicBoo]

You'll be begging for alt apollyon after trying to do anything with alt lazarus.

[HeraldOfOpera]

Originally posted by G:

all the budget went into giving bethany a synergy for every single item with her book so t. apollyon gets absolutely nothing special with his locusts, pls understand

You joke, but even the code says that there are special Abyss locusts that they didn't get around to actually making in time for release.

[Dyne]

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

Originally posted by G:

all the budget went into giving bethany a synergy for every single item with her book so t. apollyon gets absolutely nothing special with his locusts, pls understand

You joke, but even the code says that there are special Abyss locusts that they didn't get around to actually making in time for release.

Oh yeah I know, just think its kinda funny how they put so much detail into bethany and then apollyon has like 7 flies that work

and then there's stuff like the fact that brimstone of all things gives you a fly thats a different colour and nothing else

oh well, just gotta wait til they implement the unused ones

[alex]

Restart for a library and void every book you don't want for a massive damage boost early game.

[Fennec Fawx]

No idea what you're talking about. The flies honestly do a lot of heavy lifting on all T. Apollyon runs provided that you actually use abyss here and there. The only exception is in larger rooms sometimes. Unless you're finding really good items which will win you the run regardless, just abyss the crap items and relax, he gains more inherent dps than a good portion of other characters in the game.

[Zefix]

T. Apollyon is actually one of the easiest tainted characters. He needs one single Tears upgrade and he has default stats already but in addition, you can convert bad items into flies and therefore dps

[Amble]

He's a character that can turn any item into a damage upgrade, how do you not get things done with him?

[fromage_enrage]

Originally posted by HeraldOfOpera:

Originally posted by G:

all the budget went into giving bethany a synergy for every single item with her book so t. apollyon gets absolutely nothing special with his locusts, pls understand

You joke, but even the code says that there are special Abyss locusts that they didn't get around to actually making in time for release.

Yeah right, they only had two and half YEARS to take care of this.

[fromage_enrage]

Originally posted by Amble:

He's a character that can turn any item into a damage upgrade, how do you not get things done with him?

Maybe because the locusts have miserable range and take forever to shoot forward? Wiki says they deal damage per tick, but how are you going to get consistent dmg per tick on targets that have a tiny hitbox and keep f u c k i n g boucing everywhere all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ time? How are you going to deal any bonus dmg to stupid Gurdy Jr?

It's Bob's Brain all over again. Except this one takes time to blow in your face.

[Danizk0]

Originally posted by They Call Me Steve:

Maybe because the locusts have miserable range and take forever to shoot forward?

They literally have infinite range, wtf are you on about?

When I play as Tainted Apollyon, I suck up almost every item unless it's a damage/tears upgrade or if it's just really good. Previously I tried taking situational items and using Abyss only on bad items, but I found out that you'll be much less powerful if you try to balance between items and locusts.

P.S. sucking up triple/quad shot is much more beneficial than taking them imo.