The Bloat - a bit unbalanced boss

[Piterros990]

The Bloat, worst boss for everybody. Instant Brimstone from eyes, jumps with blood tears and floating eyes... I think it's quite unbalanced - there is almost no way to not get hit. I suggest to change a few parametres:
- Devil (or Angel) Room can appear even when you take 1-2 hearts of damage (or smaller chance, but still not that low as with other bosses);
- better items from fight.
That's what I suggest, I don't want to change the fight.

[Phaper]

I'd be happy with just an animation before he uses his Brimstone attack.

[Ki]

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[jareddm3]

Sometimes you get the Bloat, and sometimes you get Gish. You shouldn't need some additional reward because it was harder this time around. And there's plenty of ways to beat him without getting hit. Staying out of his horizontal and lower vertical being top of the list.

[RocketPotatoL62]

having better items from the fight would be a bit more complicated then you might think from a game that is built from item pools, to have different items then the boss item pool for fighting the bloat would require a special bosses item pool seperate from what is already there.

the bloat would be easy to kill if it weren't for the peepers, because all you have to do is stay behind the bloat, because it can't shoot brimstone behind em', and when it jumps, move away and maneuver your tears to go sideways until it decides to jump again then you go behind bloat again. rinse and repeat.

[paugus]

I have killed the Bloat hundreds of times, and I've honestly never stood behind him like people recommend. It didn't really even occur to me. I always stand just below the hitbox for his horizontal brimstones and give him hell. The only time he's a problem is when it's a very large room and I can't see where his face is, or there's another boss distracting me.

[Kyukyu]

Originally posted by Phaper:

I'd be happy with just an animation before he uses his Brimstone attack.

That or remove his big jump, since he can simply jump with his back against the wall making it impossible not to get hit by his brimstone. Even Mega Fatty with his (almost) instant jump or the Adversary with his homing brimstone is more fair because you have a very slim time for your reflex to kick in and dodge it.

[PreheatedMuffen]

Just bait a brimstone blast and then hit him from the direction hes not shooting. Its not that hard

[dmewheat]

Yeah bloat sucks. Get behind him. Stay there until he jumps then move into the bottom left or right corner of the room. Wait till he jumps towards you then get behind him again. Repeat till dead.

[Icedfate]

you can bait the bloat into shooting his brimstones by moving almost in front of him and then doubling back.

also, if he is doing his attack animation like moving his arms just before jumping or doing an attack, then it's save to move in front of his vision range for a moment to shoot him.

[Icedfate]

Originally posted by Sonic_BasementDweller62:

having better items from the fight would be a bit more complicated then you might think from a game that is built from item pools, to have different items then the boss item pool for fighting the bloat would require a special bosses item pool seperate from what is already there.

the bloat would be easy to kill if it weren't for the peepers, because all you have to do is stay behind the bloat, because it can't shoot brimstone behind em', and when it jumps, move away and maneuver your tears to go sideways until it decides to jump again then you go behind bloat again. rinse and repeat.

not sure if you noticed...but some of the bosses have their own item pool, not drawing from the regular boss item pool.

the horsemen drop cube of meat or ball of bandaids.
the headles horseman or conquest drop their rideable ponies.
gish drops little gish or the ball of tar
steven drops little steven or steven's head


soo...it's not tht farfetched to suggest giving the bloat his own items that are unique to him.

but I agree, I don't think it's necessary.