Any strategy for tainted laz and tainted jacob?

[Dead Rift]

Getting kind of burnt out from runs. Havent even touched these two. I pretty much did everyone else minus greed and mother runs (except tainted lost, just have greed left with him) i heard theres an update that will alter these two. Should i wait due to the frustration? Also have to do tainted eden but i ran out of tokens. Only did delerium, and mega satan so far

[Lilly Satou]

Tainted Laz: install a mod called Reworked Tainted Lazarus

[Marfolog]

Originally posted by Лилли Сато:

Tainted Laz: install a mod called Reworked Tainted Lazarus

Or you could use a strategy to manage all your items for both character sides, and exploit every floor to the maximum, simple.

[Danizk0]

Originally posted by Marfolog:

Originally posted by Лилли Сато:

Tainted Laz: install a mod called Reworked Tainted Lazarus

Or you could use a strategy to manage all your items for both character sides, and exploit every floor to the maximum, simple.

Please inform me how to exploit every floor to the maximum (which doesn't even help since you're not going to get x2 items by doing that) and get to boss rush in time.

[Marfolog]

Originally posted by Danizk0:

Originally posted by Marfolog:

Or you could use a strategy to manage all your items for both character sides, and exploit every floor to the maximum, simple.

Please inform me how to exploit every floor to the maximum (which doesn't even help since you're not going to get x2 items by doing that) and get to boss rush in time.

Well, I was speaking of a normal run, getting to boss rush or hush is actualy bs with t. Laz. Other than that you can use sacrifice room to get a lot of good items, secret room search is always worth it and stuff like that.

[RattyRattington]

Min-maxing each floor is indeed the key to beating Tainted Laz in the current state. Boss Rush and Hush though is basically get Mama Mega or Good luck...

[Dead Rift]

How about tainted jacob with mega satan? He pretty much destroys esasu immediately

[alex]

Dead Laz is good for the first few floors on it's own, so use this time to give live Laz damage. Another important factor is if a character has a "major" item, things such as ipecac or sacred heart basically. If one side has a "major" item they will need less stats and attention so you can focus on the other side more often.

[Dyne]

Originally posted by Dead Rift:

How about tainted jacob with mega satan? He pretty much destroys esasu immediately

well you cant progress the mega satan fight with esau alive anyway so you have to do it in the lost form regardless

i'd just recommend waiting or modding tainted lazarus, they left him unfinished so who cares really, not to mention the fact a bunch of items just don't work properly with him (Abyss, Bumbo and other bum familiars to name some) but if you're dying to do it legit then here's how i went about it:
-give damage ups to dead lazarus at the start, he has a higher damage multiplier and you want to use him to fight all the bosses
-other things go to alive lazarus, but you mainly want to look for other ways of dealing damage which aren't damage ups, such as familiars, tear modifiers or stuff that gives you flat damage like blood clot
-when dead lazarus is strong enough, start giving damage ups to alive lazarus and vice versa to balance them out
-have patience because the only upside to tainted lazarus is that he can potentially have double the max health of everyone else. sure, you're gonna have mediocre half-baked stats, but all the extra health can help you survive the million years it's gonna take you to kill the endgame bosses
-don't rule out devil deals; sure the meta rn is angel rooms but since you can't get more than 1 item out of an angel room then going for devil deals might be a good call
also there's a couple of glitches you can abuse if you find them, e.g. Lost Soul respawns every time you flip to the side which has it, letting you guarantee the free items, or losing a Lemegeton wisp as the form which didnt spawn it gives you a permanent item on the form which spawned the wisp