[Edited 03/31] Can I play Repentance if I don't own neither of the two first DLCs?

[Zeugziumy]

EDIT:

Here am I again. The DLC has been released, and there's still no mention on the store page if it needs Afterbirth/Afterbirth+ to use the DLC. Yes, the screenshots seem to use the AB/AB+'s engine, indicated by the icons on the right side.

Yes. the game is only purchasble via the Bundle, including the base game and the previous 2 DLCs. But, I'm ~mostly~ sure you are able to trade the DLC separately via Steam trading, without having to trade AB and AB+.

Regarding replies that I have received on January, Edmund himself mentioned that Repentance does not work without the previous DLC, but despite that, there's no mention on the page. Yes, it is implied that it works only with AB and AB+ due to being on a bundle only... but players have the option to not install AB and AB+ if they do not want them, I think. (It depends per game, since I don't own either the two first DLCs, I can't confirm).

The answer is most likely no, but... would I be able to get the achievements if I use the original Antibirth mod on my base Isaac Rebirth? Most likely no as well, but who knows. And I doubt the original mod will be updated to support achievements, the original Isaac devs will most likely not like that.

I went to check, and yes, the original Antibirth mod still makes your Steam status as "In-Game: Isaac Rebirth", and not a Non-Steam game.

This was probably already asked, but here it is anyways. The store page says it requires "The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth" in order to play, where in Afterbirth+, it states that it requires Afterbirth... So I guess that's a yes, I can buy and play the third DLC without needing the previous two.

Though... things get even more confusing considering the screenshots seem to use a build from Afterbirth / +, considering the stats on the left of the screen. And... will this DLC bring all balance/stat changes from Afterbirth / + even if it's not required? Changes made to items and mechanics found on the original Rebirth version.

I was very skeptical about the many changes introduced on Afterbirth and Afterbirth+, and I wasn't really interested in the things that it added to the game, therefore I didn't buy it, even though I 100% the base Rebirth game.

I love the original Rebirth, and after reading tons of different reviews from the other 2 DLC, I decided to skip it. I have previously played the fan-made mod for a while, and I'm looking forward to the 3rd DLC, but I have lots of questions that I'm sure others have previously asked.

Thank.

[Mewo]

No

[Yora ♡]

You need both AB and AB+ to be able to play Rep

[Zeugziumy]

Originally posted by Gasol:

You need both AB and AB+ to be able to play Rep :resmile:

rip. I guess the store needs to be more specific then. It should mention it requires AB+ and not only Rebirth, as stated on my post.

[DuelShockX]

Originally posted by Zeugziumy:

rip. I guess the store needs to be more specific then. It should mention it requires AB+ and not only Rebirth, as stated on my post.

AB+ states that you need to have AB first before getting it though

[Nazemec]

Originally posted by DuelShockX:

Originally posted by Zeugziumy:

rip. I guess the store needs to be more specific then. It should mention it requires AB+ and not only Rebirth, as stated on my post.

AB+ states that you need to have AB first before getting it though

This never prevented people from buying AB+ without AB at launch though.

Point is: store description seems useless when talking about requirements. Unavoidable restrictions to buy it with its requirements (AB+ only available through a bundle with AB in this case) seem to be the way to go in the end (unfortunately).

I hope this time they'll implement those restrictions (one way or another) immediately instead of waiting for a bunch of people whining that the new expansion "broke their game" when they're actually missing half of it...

[Zeugziumy]

Originally posted by DuelShockX:

Originally posted by Zeugziumy:

rip. I guess the store needs to be more specific then. It should mention it requires AB+ and not only Rebirth, as stated on my post.

AB+ states that you need to have AB first before getting it though

I know, I mentioned that on my original post. I guess I'll have to wait until the DLC releases, maybe they will update the store page or someone will ask here on the discussions again.

[Nazemec]

Originally posted by Zeugziumy:

or someone will ask here on the discussions again.

You mean ask the same question you did? Oh sure, that'll definitely happen. You're not the first one either to be honest, haha.
(Not that it's a problem, I've been on the forum for years so I'm used to it.)

The "Repentance will require both AB+ and AB to run" part was confirmed by Edmund a while ago, so it's 100% sure, even though the description doesn't mention it (yet?).

[Zeugziumy]

Originally posted by Nazemec:

Originally posted by Zeugziumy:

or someone will ask here on the discussions again.

You mean ask the same question you did? Oh sure, that'll definitely happen. You're not the first one either to be honest, haha. :dip:
(Not that it's a problem, I've been on the forum for years so I'm used to it.)

The "Repentance will require both AB+ and AB to run" part was confirmed by Edmund a while ago, so it's 100% sure, even though the description doesn't mention it (yet?).

Well, thanks for letting me know. I don't really use social media, so.

[Nazemec]

Originally posted by Zeugziumy:

Originally posted by Nazemec:

You mean ask the same question you did? Oh sure, that'll definitely happen. You're not the first one either to be honest, haha.
(Not that it's a problem, I've been on the forum for years so I'm used to it.)

The "Repentance will require both AB+ and AB to run" part was confirmed by Edmund a while ago, so it's 100% sure, even though the description doesn't mention it (yet?).

Well, thanks for letting me know. I don't really use social media, so.

No problem.

[Zeugziumy]

Edit: Moved info to the original post.

Here am I again. The DLC has been released, and there's still no mention on the store page if it needs Afterbirth/Afterbirth+ to use the DLC....

[Yora ♡]

Originally posted by Zeugziumy:

Edit: Moved info to the original post.

Here am I again. The DLC has been released, and there's still no mention on the store page if it needs Afterbirth/Afterbirth+ to use the DLC....

Thats true, but the only way to buy the expansion is to buy the bundle that includes the other 2 expansions.