Feels bad not making it to the void...

[Ov Å̪e̞oη̣s]

miss hush by seconds cause of a couple bull rooms holding up your time, and having to rely on RNG portals, sure i had mega stan key but that 50% chance portal REALLY feels like 10% :P *sulks*

[Lunacy]

So far i've had 2 runs killed due to no portals because I couldn't make the timer.

[Ov Å̪e̞oη̣s]

how about finding the mind first item room and getting the next 3 floors as curse of the lost... FML

[shiftcore]

Yeah i really think they should of made the portal 100% chance, to randomly appear either on the heart, isaac battle, or ???. and whichever it appears on you have to take it otherwise it wont appear again, rather than making it a percent chance, i really think this needs to be changed, as i have been playing binding of isaac all day as the lost trying to make it with the right items to get to delirium, i had a great run with mums knife loki's horns tech2 and tarus, as well as guppy.

i'm pretty certian i would of been able to compleete it, but i wasn't fast enough to make it to the hush, (because of the speed down rage is building) and all three times the portal didn't apear 8/ if delirium wasn't so randomized in his attack patern and teleporting it wouldn't be a problem.

[Philos]

Originally posted by shiftcore:

Yeah i really think they should of made the portal 100% chance, to randomly appear either on the heart, isaac battle, or ???. and whichever it appears on you have to take it otherwise it wont appear again, rather than making it a percent chance, i really think this needs to be changed, as i have been playing binding of isaac all day as the lost trying to make it with the right items to get to delirium, i had a great run with mums knife loki's horns tech2 and tarus, as well as guppy.

i'm pretty certian i would of been able to compleete it, but i wasn't fast enough to make it to the hush, (because of the speed down rage is building) and all three times the portal didn't apear 8/ if delirium wasn't so randomized in his attack patern and teleporting it wouldn't be a problem.

Totally agree.

[Rio]

If you running behind bomb through rooms. especially huge rooms with lots of enemies or bosses. If you super behind consider missing an item room. On the early floors use high priestess card to kill boses like rag man instantly or bombs to kill them faster.

If you have a lot of money consider playing the fortune teller machine incase it pays out the crystal ball.

Also as soon as you find the item room and the boss just leave unless you have money for the shop.

If you make boss rush take an item and teleport card out after you grab your item.

If you need maggy, do the new challenges so she starts with a speed up pill.

[Ov Å̪e̞oη̣s]

Originally posted by shiftcore:

Yeah i really think they should of made the portal 100% chance, to randomly appear either on the heart, isaac battle, or ???. and whichever it appears on you have to take it otherwise it wont appear again, rather than making it a percent chance, i really think this needs to be changed, as i have been playing binding of isaac all day as the lost trying to make it with the right items to get to delirium, i had a great run with mums knife loki's horns tech2 and tarus, as well as guppy.

i'm pretty certian i would of been able to compleete it, but i wasn't fast enough to make it to the hush, (because of the speed down rage is building) and all three times the portal didn't apear 8/ if delirium wasn't so randomized in his attack patern and teleporting it wouldn't be a problem.

void portal has a chance of spawning starting at mum's heart/fetus i believe, and i have seen it there but i was using characters that have already gotten delirium done :p but yeah mega stan should have been 80% chance if not 100, but also i can see why it is not 100% cause i find delirium easier to deal with than hush or mega stan ^^" especially now that is does not teleport on you

Originally posted by Sashie:

If you running behind bomb through rooms. especially huge rooms with lots of enemies or bosses. If you super behind consider missing an item room. On the early floors use high priestess card to kill boses like rag man instantly or bombs to kill them faster.

If you have a lot of money consider playing the fortune teller machine incase it pays out the crystal ball.

Also as soon as you find the item room and the boss just leave unless you have money for the shop.

If you make boss rush take an item and teleport card out after you grab your item.

If you need maggy, do the new challenges so she starts with a speed up pill.

yeahhh i have gotten delirium done on hard on almost half the characters including maggie so that pain is done minus greedier >.> working on laz for the bone tears next. unfortunately if you bomb the wrong way to save time, you loose time or run out of bombs >.>

[Rio]

Hold R with laz until you start with a speed up/tears up/hp up. Even I'm drowsy might be worth if you find it again as its great on bosses.

Also you can always start as the lost and hope you d4 into a laz rags. Lost can reach boss rush pretty fast with its free devil deals, flight and spectral tears. If you don't get it, you might get a judas or blue baby revive. Never D4 unless you have a way to get more rolls on the floor.

[esco1979]

The void portal issue is just a lazy and poor design choice on McMillan's part. A more logical way to do it would have been based on how many times you got hit in game, score and that you had to play on hard mode. That way yes it takes skill to reach him, but no you don't have to rush thru the game (which is counterintuitive if using someone like the keeper) not to mention then you don't have to first fight what was once the ultimate boss in the game.

Let's also think about the fact that rushing and having to skip items that you will need to survive Hush and Delirium (not to mention the countless fake boss rooms in the void) is just an idiotic concept in general.

[Rio]

The portal is there probably because people hate fighting hush due to his damage reduction armor. So they put the void behind him instead of fixing the armor annoyance so less people will just skip him.

Time will tell if people, especially youtubers just skip him and the void and keep doing chest runs. I know after I get all achivements I'm going back to skipping hush and going to the chest, satan key or not.

[esco1979]

His armor I thought was BRILLIANT. It keeps people from getting overpowered and cheesing there way thru him. I really think Delirium should have had it too, but then had less health and better AI. It makes him more challenging.

But the fact is that it is obvious the both the void area and the final boss were very rushed and poorly done with little bug testing. How any programmer/designer could NOT EVEN NOTICE that the boss had NO animation was beyond me. These guys clearly half-assed it along with the new area and it shows sadly.

Case in point: how is there no simple if then/else statement that says if you are playing as the keeper/lost that the void portal would either have a much higher chance to show up or even be guaranteed past a certain point without Hush? Beating the game with those 2 is definitely more challenging than the rest. But they didn't even take the time to put in what could have been a 2 line code fix for this. SMH.

[Rio]

The boss armor is fine and all before you got all the achivements. But once you've beat him with every character he's just boring to fight. Even if I'm watching people stream I'll often skip like 5 minutes a head if they fight hush.

I'd rather his boss armor got nerfed to not be quite as effective and some of it was given to the lamb/blue baby.

The lamb is a pushover without any, which is sad since it was an important boss in the past. Even if hush didn't get nerfed I'd like to see the lamb with some damage resistence. Not hush levels, but just some, mega satan too. Mega satan is such a different fight when you can't insta kill him with OPess.

[Pastapockets]

Edmund is a fool who doesn't understand how to add things to the game without turning the game into a giant waste of the player's time.

[esco1979]

I'm with you on making the bosses harder. But sadly Edmund held a poll to see if people preferred the game just random and unbalanced as is or tweaked to be more balanced but a bit more challenging in the long run.

The majority picked option A sadly.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Blue Womb is a lot easier than Boss Rush. That said, I've gotten to Void with 4 characters now and Maggie was the hardest one.