Please fix Lil Haunt Delirium glitch! [Maybe fixed?...]

[John Orbit]

I'll start with the obvious: Lil Haunt is not a boss. There is no reason for Delirium to even have this form. This is almost certainly an error and it's the most glitchy enemy in the game, by far. It's like Lil Haunt is trying to run a boss AI script that its sprite isn't designed to handle, making it do things that shouldn't even be possible, like breaking all speed limits, or glitching all over the screen.

Then there's the health issue. Whenever Delirium turns into Lil Haunt, its health drops to almost zero, but of course, Lil Haunt is apparently invincible. But then in it's next form, the health jumps back up, sometimes way higher than it was before. Several times now, I've seen D's health jump up by roughly 25%, always after the Haunt glitch.

The worst part though, is this happens ALL the time. If this “form” was just a rare fluke, it wouldn't matter, but Delirium always turns into Lil Haunt, several times, during every single fight. I've never seen this not happen. And again, LH isn't even a boss! There's no reason this should happen at all.

[burn1none]

I can confirm everything you said. no idea why he would turn into that guy.

[JellyPuff]

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I can confirm everything you said. no idea why he would turn into that guy.

There a few strange Delirium interactions, if you've killed bosses, that consist of more than one entity.
If he turns into Ultra Pride, only Florian (the little Angel Baby) spawns, no Edmund or if he's transforming into Brownie at low HP, Brownie instantly dies, turns into Dank Squirts and you win. He also can't turn into Hush's 2nd form, only the Blue Baby form.

[burn1none]

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I can confirm everything you said. no idea why he would turn into that guy.

There a few strange Delirium interactions, if you've killed bosses, that consist of more than one entity.
If he turns into Ultra Pride, only Florian spawns, no Edmund or if he's transforming into Brownie at low HP, Brownie instantly dies, turns into Dank Squirts and you win. He also can't turn into Hush's 2nd form, only the Blue Baby form.

isnt his main form as a big skull supposed to be the hush form?

[John Orbit]

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I can confirm everything you said. no idea why he would turn into that guy.

There a few strange Delirium interactions, if you've killed bosses, that consist of more than one entity.
If he turns into Ultra Pride, only Florian spawns, no Edmund or if he's transforming into Brownie at low HP, Brownie instantly dies, turns into Dank Squirts and you win.

Yeah. There are a ton of errors in this fight, but Lil Haunt is by far the worst, mostly, again, because it happens all the time. And it's not just a spawned enemy. It's a Lil Haunt form of Delirium, which is obvious from the health glitch.

[JellyPuff]

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There a few strange Delirium interactions, if you've killed bosses, that consist of more than one entity.
If he turns into Ultra Pride, only Florian spawns, no Edmund or if he's transforming into Brownie at low HP, Brownie instantly dies, turns into Dank Squirts and you win. He also can't turn into Hush's 2nd form, only the Blue Baby form.

isnt his main form as a big skull supposed to be the hush form?

It's just his "true", non-tranformed form.

[burn1none]

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isnt his main form as a big skull supposed to be the hush form?

It's just his "true", non-tranformed form.

sources? unless you have some I think its reasonable to guess that hush and delerium might be the same entity since thats how you unlock the final chapter. just a wild theory but when you fight Hush he is under the stage behind some kind of blue membrane, when you beat him you get sucked into a void downwards theoretically into the Hush's true domain where he doesnt have the blue womb holding him back anymore

[JellyPuff]

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It's just his "true", non-tranformed form.

sources? unless you have some I think its reasonable to guess that hush and delerium might be the same entity since thats how you unlock the final chapter. just a wild theory but when you fight Hush he is under the stage behind some kind of blue membrane, when you beat him you get sucked into a void downwards theoretically into the Hush's true domain where he doesnt have the blue womb holding him back anymore

You can summon a Delirious version of Hush via the Delirium active item, so he exists. (funny sidenote: You can even summon a Delirious Ultra Greed, but that could get you stuck, so in theory, if it would be possible for Delirium to turn Ultra Greed, if you've fought him prior, which currently is not possible)

Delirium just can't transform into him and this boss is supposed to be a mad mish-mash of every boss fought during your run.

[Rio]

Well every haunt fight does start with a lil haunt. And haunt is tied to them since it doesn't materialize while they are alive. Its possible the big haunt is a bunch of little haunts joined together.

[burn1none]

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sources? unless you have some I think its reasonable to guess that hush and delerium might be the same entity since thats how you unlock the final chapter. just a wild theory but when you fight Hush he is under the stage behind some kind of blue membrane, when you beat him you get sucked into a void downwards theoretically into the Hush's true domain where he doesnt have the blue womb holding him back anymore

You can summon a Delirious version of Hush via the Delirium active item, so he exists. (funny sidenote: You can even summon a Delirious Ultra Greed, but that could get you stuck, so in theory, if it would be possible for Delirium to turn Ultra Greed, if you've fought him prior, which currently is not possible)

Delirium just can't transform into him and this boss is supposed to be a mad mish-mash of every boss fought during your run.

oh ok fair enough, thanks for the clarification. wouldnt know since I have the delerius item but havent actually found it yet. what item pool is it in?

[John Orbit]

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Well every haunt fight does start with a lil haunt. And haunt is tied to them since it doesn't materialize while they are alive. Its possible the big haunt is a bunch of little haunts joined together.

It's definitely not a normal Lil Haunt, otherwise it wouldn't mess with the health. And again, Lil Haunt appears every time I've fought Delerium, whether I fought The (big) Haunt or not.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

I've been killed by his lil haunt form ramming into me before. It's so asinine.

[John Orbit]

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I've been killed by his lil haunt form ramming into me before. It's so asinine.

Yeah. It's speed is insane! It's way faster than anything else in the game, including the Player, even at max speed. It just homes right in on you in the blink of an eye, when it's not just appearing on top of you out of nowhere. And for some reason, tears don't seem to knock it back. If it decides to home in on you, there's nothing that can be done to stop it.

[Blargo]

I think that Delerium is actually supposed to be transforming into The Haunt, accompanied with 1 - 3 Little Haunts, but some bug is causing it to just transform as 1 Little Haunt.

[UwU]

Lil Haunt appearing as boss in bestiary too. So that's another bug, that connected with Delirium form.

But why you're typing "please" on steam forums? Use reddit or better twitter for some answers from devs. We're not the ones who could fix this)

[Lunacy]

1. Hope to encounter Brownie
2. beat Delirium to 20% hp
3. gg