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I have some questions about Fables universe...
1)Do all fables have glamour?If I'm right glamour doesn't last forever so why doesn't Bigby have one and why does he turn to wolf while fighting?
2)Why are fables invincible?Bigby poked out Beast's eye and it's still there like nothing happened @_@
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1) Not all Fables have glamour. Glamours are only required by non-human Fables who are unable to pass for human. There are also more permanent transformation spells. Bigby does not have a glamour. His ability to change is due to his lineage.

2) They are all functionally immortal. Bigby doesn't poke out Beast's eye at any point. They aren't shown to be invincible however.
Syndrake Aug 3, 2014 @ 4:48am 
This is a bit to cover, but I'll try my best.

First of all, no. Not all the Fables have glamour. The human fables such as Snow White, Bluebeard, the Woodsman, ect. don't need any because they can go about their buisiness and blend in with the mundys. The more unusual looking "creature" fables such as Colin and Mr. Toad can't be seen by mundys so they must buy glamours to look human.
As for Bigby, I may be wrong but I think he is able to change his form at will. He inherited various powers from his father, the North Wind. Including the ability to change shape like his father and of course his signature "Huff and Puff".

Secondly, it isn't exactly known why or what gives them their invincibility. Popular belief among the fable community says that it comes down to fame. The more famous you are, the harder it is to kill you.
This is why the Woodsman, an extremely famous and well known fairytale character can survive an axe to the head, while the more obscure Georgie Porgie from the nursery rhyme dies from a significantly less lethal knife wound to the stomach.
In short: As long as your story lives on, so will you.
Last edited by Syndrake; Aug 3, 2014 @ 4:50am
Originally posted by Syndrake:
This is a bit to cover, but I'll try my best.

First of all, no. Not all the Fables have glamour. The human fables such as Snow White, Bluebeard, the Woodsman, ect. don't need any because they can go about their buisiness and blend in with the mundys. The more unusual looking "creature" fables such as Colin and Mr. Toad can't be seen by mundys so they must buy glamours to look human.
As for Bigby, I may be wrong but I think he is able to change his form at will. He inherited various powers from his father, the North Wind. Including the ability to change shape like his father and of course his signature "Huff and Puff".

Secondly, it isn't exactly known why or what gives them their invincibility. Popular belief among the fable community says that it comes down to fame. The more famous you are, the harder it is to kill you.
This is why the Woodsman, an extremely famous and well known fairytale character can survive an axe to the head, while the more obscure Georgie Porgie from the nursery rhyme dies from a significantly less lethal knife wound to the stomach.
In short: As long as your story lives on, so will you.

Georgie Porgie isn't an obscure nursery rhyme though and also how well known it is to us is irrelevant. How well known is poem is in-universe is what matters.
Archduke of Lore Aug 3, 2014 @ 8:17am 
Well since everyone explained it well the only thing i can offer is that bigby can only transform since when snow recruited him he was cut with a lycan infected blade to turn him into a werewolf. So he could blend in with the rest of the fables.
Originally posted by D0NKEYKONGA:
Originally posted by MorningLightMountain:

Georgie Porgie isn't an obscure nursery rhyme though and also how well known it is to us is irrelevant. How well known is poem is in-universe is what matters.

I don't think he/she means it the way you're taking it. I would completely agree more people know the story of Red Riding Hood than the Georgie Porgie nursery rhyme. But your point about the in-game universe I do agree with, it does matter how well reknown they are there, not here, though I would believe they've based it off of real life, but that's entirely up to anyone to decide for themselves.

Potentially but Georgie Porgie's nursery rhyme isn't that obscure it might not be as well known as Red Riding Hood however.

Originally posted by Moonlitknight47:
Well since everyone explained it well the only thing i can offer is that bigby can only transform since when snow recruited him he was cut with a lycan infected blade to turn him into a werewolf. So he could blend in with the rest of the fables.

Technically he would have been capable of doing that without the use of the blade but couldn't due to rejecting powers which came from his father.
Syndrake Aug 14, 2014 @ 3:05am 
Originally posted by D0NKEYKONGA:
Originally posted by MorningLightMountain:

Georgie Porgie isn't an obscure nursery rhyme though and also how well known it is to us is irrelevant. How well known is poem is in-universe is what matters.

I don't think he/she means it the way you're taking it. I would completely agree more people know the story of Red Riding Hood than the Georgie Porgie nursery rhyme. But your point about the in-game universe I do agree with, it does matter how well reknown they are there, not here, though I would believe they've based it off of real life, but that's entirely up to anyone to decide for themselves.

As I have said, it is merely a theory as explain in the comics by Beast to Jack. There were a few deaths that point to the contrary. Mary's lamb, the "spider", Shao-Khan and many more.
Ferret Leader Aug 14, 2014 @ 8:19am 
Originally posted by President Greevil:
1)Do all fables have glamour?If I'm right glamour doesn't last forever so why doesn't Bigby have one and why does he turn to wolf while fighting?
2)Why are fables invincible?Bigby poked out Beast's eye and it's still there like nothing happened @_@

1. Not all fables need glamour. Only the ones who can not pass as humans. Bigby has been turned into a warewolf, so he doesn't need one. He used to be a wolf, but they gave him the warewolf virus, which aparently works both ways.

2. They're not invincible, but the more popular they are, the harder they are to kill. Also, bigby is the Big Bad Wolf from all the stories with a big bad wolf. And Beast is pretty popular himself, so he's kind of hard to kill.
Originally posted by Ferret Leader:
Originally posted by President Greevil:
1)Do all fables have glamour?If I'm right glamour doesn't last forever so why doesn't Bigby have one and why does he turn to wolf while fighting?
2)Why are fables invincible?Bigby poked out Beast's eye and it's still there like nothing happened @_@

1. Not all fables need glamour. Only the ones who can not pass as humans. Bigby has been turned into a warewolf, so he doesn't need one. He used to be a wolf, but they gave him the warewolf virus, which aparently works both ways.

2. They're not invincible, but the more popular they are, the harder they are to kill. Also, bigby is the Big Bad Wolf from all the stories with a big bad wolf. And Beast is pretty popular himself, so he's kind of hard to kill.

1. He still is a Wolf. He's actually a shapeshifter but rejected his powers. The blade was infected with lycanthropy but didn't turn him into a werewolf as such as it just allows him to assume a human form.

2. The popularity theory is just that a theory. It isn't actually proven.
Angrist Aug 30, 2014 @ 5:45pm 
Although its just a theory, its quite a good theory.

It explains why Georgie or one of the twins, or the prince in the beginning, die from simple stabwounds or blunt trauma, whereas Bigby can be riddled with bullets and the woodsman can even take an axe to the head.

Looking at those fables I can kill in the game if i want to, or which are killed by force (1 of the twins, bloody mary, georgie, crooked man, the prince in the beginning) all have very minor roles in their storys, or are only part of nursery rhymes and so on,

In Germany, only the twins are known, the rest doesn´t even exist here, and we have other nursery rhymes.

World's best Fox Aug 30, 2014 @ 9:39pm 
Originally posted by mawo333:
Although its just a theory, its quite a good theory.

It explains why Georgie or one of the twins, or the prince in the beginning, die from simple stabwounds or blunt trauma, whereas Bigby can be riddled with bullets and the woodsman can even take an axe to the head.

Looking at those fables I can kill in the game if i want to, or which are killed by force (1 of the twins, bloody mary, georgie, crooked man, the prince in the beginning) all have very minor roles in their storys, or are only part of nursery rhymes and so on,

In Germany, only the twins are known, the rest doesn´t even exist here, and we have other nursery rhymes.
Bloody Mary if fairly well known. as for the Tweedles they are kinda well known.
Syndrake Aug 31, 2014 @ 5:11am 
Originally posted by mawo333:
Although its just a theory, its quite a good theory.

It explains why Georgie or one of the twins, or the prince in the beginning, die from simple stabwounds or blunt trauma, whereas Bigby can be riddled with bullets and the woodsman can even take an axe to the head.

Looking at those fables I can kill in the game if i want to, or which are killed by force (1 of the twins, bloody mary, georgie, crooked man, the prince in the beginning) all have very minor roles in their storys, or are only part of nursery rhymes and so on,

In Germany, only the twins are known, the rest doesn´t even exist here, and we have other nursery rhymes.

I think even the most famous characters can be killed, but some can withstand more punishment than others. Bloody Mary is the most well known of all supernatural folklore, but Bigby did chomp her to little pieces.
Can we expect to see Lizzie Borden at some point?
Originally posted by michaelbourgeault26:
Can we expect to see Lizzie Borden at some point?

No, because she is a real person and not a fictional character.
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