Am I missing anything by not buying the remaster?

[Dogtor]

I don't think I have all the DLC's for ME3, not sure about 2. Don't really care for graphics

[Adam Beckett]

If you are not invested in the Mass Effect universe - no.

If you like to replay this game from time to time, I would say, it is well worth it.

I myself am usually skeptical whenever I hear "Remaster". Most games do not deserve this title, since the least amount of work goes into it and it is just a marketing strategy to sell the same old game once again for full price.

But, I find myself enjoying the "Remastered" version on PC for it's improvements.

There are a bunch of gameplay changes too, that make the "Remastered/Legendary" edition worthwhile. Here's a short video describing the changes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jPsxXn7c1I

And also, the native gamepad support (finally!) on PC, makes it worth it. This was the reason why I bought the ME Trilogy on console, in addition to the PC original. Bioware's excuse for not having gamepad support in the original PC games ("we had no resources left") was ridiculous.

[Raging Amy]

Originally posted by HomecomingQueen:

I don't think I have all the DLC's for ME3, not sure about 2. Don't really care for graphics

I thank mods handle the game just fine so much so I bought the originals knowing still over the remaster and like Adam Beckett most games just have remaster in the title with little change so far the only games that I've played that are remastered are the Resident Evil games

[Nothing.]

The first game in the remaster got the most changes. The other games not so much, and are basically the same. The most major change outside the balance-breaking tweaks of the first game are the visuals, which kind of ♥♥♥♥ up the lighting of various scenes quite a lot.

Additionally, the game actually isn't even that much more stable in the 'remaster', because there are still old, and even new bugs alike. They kind of went bare minimum on their fixes if at all.

You could probably get DLC for free on ME3 at this point on the original version for what it's worth.

[Arkham99]

Originally posted by HomecomingQueen:

I don't think I have all the DLC's for ME3, not sure about 2

all of the DLC for the 2nd game was made free recently when EA did away with BioWare points...:-)

[id795078477]

Remaster = pay your money for something you already have. Except that - you may not have any other way of getting access to stuff you already have but buying Remaster. That's because the DLC for ME2 are behind that "Cerberus Network" jazz and they brought the service down before Remaster launched. So if you have some DLCs for ME2 = you now cannot play them and there's no recourse against EA that you can take, it's all in their EULA.

Stuff like that if why I won't ever support these practices. Episodes like that make you realize that due to DRM you aren't actually owning things in the modern times, you're only allowed to rent/lease them because the graceful corpos have granted you that right. And of course no way I'd buy Remaster and pay them even more money.

P.S. They also censored some stuff in Remaster (the famous Miranda "@ss" camera shots as an example). So - double no here. It's a matter of principle for me to not support censorship.

[Nothing.]

Originally posted by Dellecross:

Remaster = pay your money for something you already have. Except that - you may not have any other way of getting access to stuff you already have but buying Remaster. That's because the DLC for ME2 are behind that "Cerberus Network" jazz and they brought the service down before Remaster launched. So if you have some DLCs for ME2 = you now cannot play them and there's no recourse against EA that you can take, it's all in their EULA.

Stuff like that if why I won't ever support these practices. Episodes like that make you realize that due to DRM you aren't actually owning things in the modern times, you're only allowed to rent/lease them because the graceful corpos have granted you that right. And of course no way I'd buy Remaster and pay them even more money.

P.S. They also censored some stuff in Remaster (the famous Miranda "@ss" camera shots as an example). So - double no here. It's a matter of principle for me to not support censorship.

Just a reminder, all the DLC has links on the PCgaming wiki for ME2 if I'm not mistaken. I encourage anybody reading this who doesn't have DLC for ME2 to download all the DLC for ME2 guilt-free, I believe the links on the PCgaming wiki also include DLCs that weren't officially sold, like the BLood Dragon Armor and stuff. Ever since the servers stopped working for verification, this has pretty much always been acceptable, and now that Bioware points have been rendered defunct, there's even less of an ethical barrier to worry about.

Also, if you have any issues with verification, the trick with making DLC playable is installing ME2 fresh, don't launch the game, then install all the DLC, then launch the game for the first time. The game will verify any DLC installed with the game on first launch only if I'm not mistaken, if you install the game and launch without any DLC, subsequent DLCs you install later will need to be verified, and at that point your only option is to reinstall and start over, or download a crack.

[Arkham99]

Originally posted by Nothing.:

Originally posted by Dellecross:

Remaster = pay your money for something you already have. Except that - you may not have any other way of getting access to stuff you already have but buying Remaster. That's because the DLC for ME2 are behind that "Cerberus Network" jazz and they brought the service down before Remaster launched. So if you have some DLCs for ME2 = you now cannot play them and there's no recourse against EA that you can take, it's all in their EULA.

Stuff like that if why I won't ever support these practices. Episodes like that make you realize that due to DRM you aren't actually owning things in the modern times, you're only allowed to rent/lease them because the graceful corpos have granted you that right. And of course no way I'd buy Remaster and pay them even more money.

P.S. They also censored some stuff in Remaster (the famous Miranda "@ss" camera shots as an example). So - double no here. It's a matter of principle for me to not support censorship.

Just a reminder, all the DLC has links on the PCgaming wiki for ME2 if I'm not mistaken. I encourage anybody reading this who doesn't have DLC for ME2 to download all the DLC for ME2 guilt-free, I believe the links on the PCgaming wiki also include DLCs that weren't officially sold, like the BLood Dragon Armor and stuff. Ever since the servers stopped working for verification, this has pretty much always been acceptable, and now that Bioware points have been rendered defunct, there's even less of an ethical barrier to worry about.

Also, if you have any issues with verification, the trick with making DLC playable is installing ME2 fresh, don't launch the game, then install all the DLC, then launch the game for the first time. The game will verify any DLC installed with the game on first launch only if I'm not mistaken, if you install the game and launch without any DLC, subsequent DLCs you install later will need to be verified, and at that point your only option is to reinstall and start over, or download a crack.

you need to sign-in to your EA account via the Cerberus Network to authenticate the DLCs...:-)

[tyl0413]

All DLCs have been made free but you need to log into your account in game every time. I just got a bypass of GitHub..

[id795078477]

Originally posted by Nothing.:

Also, if you have any issues with verification, the trick with making DLC playable is installing ME2 fresh, don't launch the game, then install all the DLC, then launch the game for the first time. The game will verify any DLC installed with the game on first launch only if I'm not mistaken, if you install the game and launch without any DLC, subsequent DLCs you install later will need to be verified, and at that point your only option is to reinstall and start over, or download a crack.

Well.. I'd love that to work but it doesn't. Worse - I had all my DLCs authenticated and then when I wanted to play the game near the Remaster launch date - all of the already existing DLCs suddenly disappeared with no (official) way to get them back.

It sort of doesn't matter that there is a way to get them from unofficial (short of "pirate") sources. It's like - you bought a Tesla but then the car vendor decided to remote disable your AC, navigator and limited your battery charge to 50% just because they felt like they no longer want to maintain a service that enables the check of those systems to be "legitimate" on your car - and now you can only go to a mechanic next door to hijack your car (hoping they won't break some other stuff or install some spying device on it) all the while Tesla "closes their eyes" on that practice - without any guarantee to keep their eyes closed, of course.

The scenario above sounds ridiculous so I don't see why it's acceptable with other products. Eh, whatever. I guess I needed to vent it somewhere.

[Arkham99]

don't see why this is so complicated... you can download all of the DLCs still on EA's Official site... if you own a legit version of the game (Steam or Origin) then simply log into your EA account when launching the game... it even prompts you that your DLC has been authenticated...:-)

[id795078477]

Originally posted by Arkham99:

don't see why this is so complicated... you can download all of the DLCs still on EA's Official site... if you own a legit version of the game (Steam or Origin) then simply log into your EA account when launching the game... it even prompts you that your DLC has been authenticated...:-)

Um... I can't login into "EA site". And if I try to reset password - it sends the link but then if I use it - woops, "Online login is currently unavailable" which I guess is a web-version of the result that they brought the service down. Another error I see is "You must be online when logging in for the first time" which doesn't make any sense - how can I be online if I am trying to log in??

[Arkham99]

you're not making a whole lotta sense here... launch the game and sign into your EA account via the Main Menu... done... if that's not working for you then you've done something else that I can't help you with...:-)

[id795078477]

Originally posted by Arkham99:

you're not making a whole lotta sense here... launch the game and sign into your EA account via the Main Menu... done... if that's not working for you then you've done something else that I can't help you with...:-)

Oh - in the game. Well - that "works" but it doesn't do anything. It asks for codes to enter and if I enter those it tells "already in use" (I have codes from the game purchase and I reinstalled it as the folks above suggested)

[Dethlane]

If you have all games, then it's not worth it.

[𝕙.𝕓𝕒𝕣𝕜𝕒𝕤]

If you have the classic games in your account just remaster them yourself with ALOT the incredible 4K texture mod which is on par if not surpassing any visual improvements Legendary Edition could offer and is available for free on nexusmods.