Should I continue the game?

[yds]

I loved ME1 very much (I knew the general plot of the series before I started playing, but the game itself was pretty nice). After having finished the game, I immediately bought ME2.

However, I got bored pretty fast. Despite the (much better) visuals, the mechanics itself weren't to my liking, especially the new "heat sinks" aka the classic ammo I now need to use for weapons. The lack of ammo in the first game was to me a major point in its favor.

Anyway, I played the second game until the Jack mission, and I freed Jack and all is well, but during the mission I was out of ammo and had to use singularities for hours to kill all the infinite soldiers at the prison.

Then the plot. There's no Liara (my favorite character) unless I buy the DLC, so none of the romance options interest me. Miranda and Jack are interesting characters, as well as Jacob, but not enough to get me invested. And the whole "serving Cerberus" storyline is just sick and out of character for my Shepard. I saved the Council in the first game, but what was the point?

I know it feels like I'm complaining about a decade old game, but really, I just want to know if there are some awesome missions waiting for me after saving Jack, because I do want to complete the game, and maybe even play ME3 where I can finally get back with Liara xD

[Doggy Friend]

There are awesome missions (especially the final mission) and really interesting companions, I'd recommend you to play it till the end AT LEAST in order to transfer your progress to the third game.

[ZumZoom]

Yes, it's definitely worth playing. And there are ways of adding DLC from origin into Steam (there is also a way to do it without paying EA, nudge nudge wink wink).
Though after playing a couple of times through Lair of the Shadowbroker (Liara DLC), I kinda got bored with it, there isn't much to it aside from a long combat mission. The base game is REALLY good though.

[Mysti_Fogg]

Well, I love the game, obviously.

But if you're finding the missions boring, then it's not going to get better. I can tell you I think the missions are awesome and the endless rounds of being tank girl in ME1 are what's really boring, but that doesn't really help.

Not sure why you were so low on ammo, mind. I usually have ammo coming out of my ass when I play. There's a few occasions where I run out on one gun and have to switch to a different gun, but I can't really recall ever being completely out.

Also not sure if you're going to like ME3 if this is how you feel about ME2. 2 has issues with not getting enough bonding opportunities with the crew, which 3 greatly improves upon. But the missions/ammo issues will be the same. ::shrug::

[yds]

Thanks everyone. I'll probaly try getting back into the game, since it's been so long. Maybe my impression will change.

I'm not sure why I got out of ammo so early in the last mission, but I remember being completely wiped by the middle and not being able to find any drops from enemies. I legit got stuck for 2 hours just shooting singularities at everyone until I managed to kill the prison warden. Then the crew talks were disappointing and that's why I didn't continue playing. Maybe I'll give up on my ME1 character and just start ME3 with a blank slate.

[Mysti_Fogg]

Publicado originalmente por yds:

Thanks everyone. I'll probaly try getting back into the game, since it's been so long. Maybe my impression will change.

I'm not sure why I got out of ammo so early in the last mission, but I remember being completely wiped by the middle and not being able to find any drops from enemies. I legit got stuck for 2 hours just shooting singularities at everyone until I managed to kill the prison warden. Then the crew talks were disappointing and that's why I didn't continue playing. Maybe I'll give up on my ME1 character and just start ME3 with a blank slate.

If you go direct from 1 to 3, I think you don't get Garrus and Tali back. And Wrex is dead. I've never done it, but I've heard that's what happens.

[Dethlane]

Publicado originalmente por Mysti_Fogg:

If you go direct from 1 to 3, I think you don't get Garrus and Tali back. And Wrex is dead. I've never done it, but I've heard that's what happens.

Not quite. Create new ME3 character, go through cutscenes, save, exit. Open ME3 save editor, change everything about ME1 and ME2 however you want it to be, change ME3 character status to "lived to fight again" or whatever, set level to 30, add feat points, renegade, paragon, etc etc. Then start a new game with import of ME3 character. Voila, you kinda imported ME2 character. Takes much more effort than actual ME2 import ofc, but still. Don't remember what ME1-2 characters die if you just start new ME3 character w/o editing, but IIRC a LOT of them dies (or are set to die because they weren't loyal in ME2) even if you go through Genesis and pick "best" choices.

It doesn't give you knowledge of what happened in ME2, however, so if you go direct from ME1 to ME3, you lose a hefty chunk of story (and you also may not know what to set in ME2 storyline).

[Mysti_Fogg]

Publicado originalmente por Dethlane:

Publicado originalmente por Mysti_Fogg:

If you go direct from 1 to 3, I think you don't get Garrus and Tali back. And Wrex is dead. I've never done it, but I've heard that's what happens.

Not quite. Create new ME3 character, go through cutscenes, save, exit. Open ME3 save editor, change everything about ME1 and ME2 however you want it to be, change ME3 character status to "lived to fight again" or whatever, set level to 30, add feat points, renegade, paragon, etc etc. Then start a new game with import of ME3 character. Voila, you kinda imported ME2 character. Takes much more effort than actual ME2 import ofc, but still. Don't remember what ME1-2 characters die if you just start new ME3 character w/o editing, but IIRC a LOT of them dies (or are set to die because they weren't loyal in ME2) even if you go through Genesis and pick "best" choices.

It doesn't give you knowledge of what happened in ME2, however, so if you go direct from ME1 to ME3, you lose a hefty chunk of story (and you also may not know what to set in ME2 storyline).

They all die/don't appear..

I just didn't think the OP would care about any of them except for Tali, Garrus, and Wrex since he bonded with them in ME1 and claims not to care about the ME2 cast. And while I love the ME2 cast, I think Jack and Mordin and maybe Miranda are really the ones you miss if they're not around.

Though it does also cause a cascade effect where you can't get the best outcomes because the rest of the cast isn't around.

[Jwilz]

The final mission makes the game totally worth it.
I enjoyed the story of the first game more but the graphics/mechanics were a lot more polished in the second. That being said just dive into the new characters some more(Grunt, Thane, Jack) and really get to know them. It's worth it.

[your.sheepy]

1. Regardless of its flaws, you will miss out on lores and developments if you skip ME2.

2. Not to mention that ME1 saves can only be imported by ME2, not ME3. Even with save editor, there are hundreds of variables imported, many of which you won't inderstand without playing ME2.

3. Outside of achievements, you can safely set difficulty to lowest to get over the fights faster.

4. Some fights have massive or even infinite spawns until you reach a trigger point. Mission walkthroughs can tell you of them.

5. Use area powers to blast down enemies en-mass without wasting ammo.

6. Many boss fights have ammos that respawn indefinitely. Again, walkthrough helps.

7. Weapons varies greatly in ammo efficiency. Slow and powerful weapons are generally much less ammo efficients than rapid firing weapons, even within the same class. Legendary Edition have also increased drop rate.

8. Ammo powers make a big difference. Make sure you bring the right squadmate for the right squad ammo.

9. Squandmates never run out of ammo. Give them the lease ammo efficient and most inaccuarate guns, and in combat make sure they are using the right gun and ammo power.

10. Recruit Grunt. Upgrade him in the lab. Max out regen and fitness. Order him to attack the boss, then either flank the boss, support Grunt from afar, or park Shephard behind cover and get a tea.

11. ME3 is worth the pain known as ME2. Don't give up!

[yds]

Publicado originalmente por your.sheepy:

1. Regardless of its flaws, you will miss out on lores and developments if you skip ME2.

2. Not to mention that ME1 saves can only be imported by ME2, not ME3. Even with save editor, there are hundreds of variables imported, many of which you won't inderstand without playing ME2.

3. Outside of achievements, you can safely set difficulty to lowest to get over the fights faster.

4. Some fights have massive or even infinite spawns until you reach a trigger point. Mission walkthroughs can tell you of them.

5. Use area powers to blast down enemies en-mass without wasting ammo.

6. Many boss fights have ammos that respawn indefinitely. Again, walkthrough helps.

7. Weapons varies greatly in ammo efficiency. Slow and powerful weapons are generally much less ammo efficients than rapid firing weapons, even within the same class. Legendary Edition have also increased drop rate.

8. Ammo powers make a big difference. Make sure you bring the right squadmate for the right squad ammo.

9. Squandmates never run out of ammo. Give them the lease ammo efficient and most inaccuarate guns, and in combat make sure they are using the right gun and ammo power.

10. Recruit Grunt. Upgrade him in the lab. Max out regen and fitness. Order him to attack the boss, then either flank the boss, support Grunt from afar, or park Shephard behind cover and get a tea.

11. ME3 is worth the pain known as ME2. Don't give up!

Thank you a lot! I'll do that, I really want to finish the game

[Zadok]

I can totally relate. I'm now through the early game recruitments and I kind of hate that combat. ME1 didn't totally enthrall me either as far as combat goes, but You know: it let me do my thing. I had to start veteran, so it was easy anyway. It told a great story and I was fine with that. More than fine - it was great! Played Infiltrator and still do. At times combat was silly and boring alright: sniping opponents from a mile away took ages and the enemy often didn't really react. Not the strong point of the game perhaps, but even so it felt like my choice.
Combat was okay and didn't get in the way of a great story that made the game shine. Now the game forces me to go ham with a pistol or SMG, or else leave cover to collect clips because I run out of sniper ammo in EVERY fight. It's just silly.
Difficulty is okay on hardcore (which is why I didn't look for ammo cheats), but this style does get in the way of the story. My char is forced to act tactically stupid and that SUCKS.

It's probably meant to prevent a passive playstyle - at least that would make sense to aim for. If that's the goal I don't object! Not in principle. Only now I've got to wait ages for my cooldowns to come back up before each and every shot to get a halfway ammo efficient sniper experience. So I wait. Behind cover that renders me as good as invincible. Talk about passive.
It's forced. It's not my call. It doesn't make sense at all in terms of lore (a supposedly higher rate of fire for the humble price of NOT FIRING AT ALL). Most importantly: it is not fun.

The plot is a bit contrived and doesn't pick up the pace of ME1 quite yet.
Character builds are "simplified" - which is a nice word for flattened and boring.
The over-abundance of items got over-compensated and robs the game of any and all looting. Yet again I get the impression they were having a good idea here: The endless need to equip new items for everybody every time You blinked was not ideal in ME1 - Shepard was outright flooded with (mostly useless) items all day. Not that I minded too much, but there was room for improvement - alright! So now we've got... NO loot? Only like one or two mandatory items per mission, same for everybody? That's... not an improvement.
Besides that I got stuck on potted plants too often. Seriously: I ended up on top of a plant I took cover behind and was stuck. Not the biggest bug ever, but still an annoyance that kind of "threw me out". Happened three times so far, draining the fun and prompting me to look at everything that's problematic rather than enjoying what's there.
Also I'm with the OP on Liara: mates for life and all, paragon char won't cheat. So no romance, no development in an important part of character background - a missed opportunity.

None of that is desastrous. The ammo thing is quite painful, but even that is not the end of the world. I'd totally overlook each of these flaws individually, but combined they make the game a lot worse than ME1.

The game is fine, but it is also disappointing coming from ME1. It's always hard to follow up on a good game I guess. I'd let that count as a decent excuse, but only because it kinda needs an excuse to make my peace with this game and somehow get through it. It's a shame it can't live up to its predecessor, anyway.