Serious lack of iron in level 1?

[Kvothe Ley]

Anyone notice this?

[chrisbamb]

Mine's been okay. What I'm finding is a serious lack of wool now! Have sheep in the farm that always state "Cut (already cut)".

[Kvothe Ley]

get 7 sheeps, cut 3 at a time

[City Builder]

Nope, on the last level that I just started after the recent patch, I'm finding tons of iron, but no coal to be found anywhere. Guessing it's just the luck of the RNG when the worlds are created maybe.

[Sulevia]

I'm on the third (Dust) world in a campaign and there is a serious lack of mithril. Really annoying

[ReneMiner]

there is no lack of no ores (except a little coal-shortage). Completely dig out all front- & backwalls to get additional random drops.

The "no-wool-growing-disease" seems to happen quite often,(in 1 of 20 games) the devs might notice this because it's very annoying having to play 5 to 6 hours until can build a farm and then to recognize: "all i can do now is abandon this savegame because the sheep are bugged and don't grow wool in this game."

[Six]

Yep, lack of iron in the first level, hit this snag just now and was looking around for a solution, found this post. I know it is an older post, but hey, it is relevant to me now.

[ehyder]

If you dig down deep enough the blocks start dropping ore even when there is no obvious ore deposit.

[sandpitturtle3333]

Sorry for the necro but I'm in this situation. Recently brought the game and I'm not sure how long each world should take. But I'm still on the first with 20 hours, never used the multiplayer spell (Not exactly sure what that does etc). Only have I think 1 part of the portal that I still need to make after sending waves at the guardian (Don't have mithril yet).

But at around 18 hours to current playtime the iron for me in that word is pretty much gone with the exception of deposits that are only 1 or 2 chunks in size and I think I've found all of them all ready. So I'm kind of struggling at the moment in trying to get enough iron for the constructions I need and to craft the specified things in the research tree in order to get the stronger stuff needed to fight the guardians.

[ehyder]

There have been times in the game where I have hurting for iron or coal, but never enough that I cannot finish the game. Iron is definitely easier to find in about the upper third of the map, and then will continue to drop from blocks as you dig into the deepest levels.

Some players have run into issues with missing guardians. But sometimes the guardians are in very tiny rooms and can be hard to spot. The locator spell is very useful when you find yourself in this situation. It is an expensive spell though so you are better off using it on the bigger maps, when you only have a couple to find, or you are not sure if they exist.

Can you post a screenshot of your map? This will give me a better idea how much you have explored the map, and how systematic you have been with your digging.

Edit: PS, personally I would rather see old, relevant posts revived than have a whole bunch of different threads on the same topic. So post away :)

[sandpitturtle3333]

Originally posted by ehyder:

There have been times in the game where I have hurting for iron or coal, but never enough that I cannot finish the game. Iron is definitely easier to find in about the upper third of the map, and then will continue to drop from blocks as you dig into the deepest levels.

Some players have run into issues with missing guardians. But sometimes the guardians are in very tiny rooms and can be hard to spot. The locator spell is very useful when you find yourself in this situation. It is an expensive spell though so you are better off using it on the bigger maps, when you only have a couple to find, or you are not sure if they exist.

Can you post a screenshot of your map? This will give me a better idea how much you have explored the map, and how systematic you have been with your digging.

Edit: PS, personally I would rather see old, relevant posts revived than have a whole bunch of different threads on the same topic. So post away :)

Left side of map

Right side of map

Some areas I refilled because I didn't like the way they looked. Terraformed surface areas to allow more animal spawns. But as you can see I more or less have no more iron as I assume the only remaining clusters in those undiscovered bottom layers would be high tier.

[ehyder]

It looks like there are a few dark areas that might be big enough that the iron icons will not show up until you get closer, unless these are underground areas you filled in. If you dig up blocks in the level that has gold and mithril deposits (the darkest color and hardest blocks) you will get drops of iron ore just from mining. I cannot remember if the blocks above those also drop iron, I vaguely recall that level only dropps coal and stone.

How much more iron do you need, and what is it for? I admit I do try to keep my iron consumption to a minimum. Not all gear needs to be upgraded, and I try to skip levels of upgrades as much as I can. For instance, only a couple of dwarves get better axes, and the ranged fighters stay mostly in leather goods. Everyone gets the best pickaxes, but not all at once. If I have to craft stuff to get through the tech tree that I do not want I recycle it right away. You can get a fair bit of crafting materials back from recycling.

[sandpitturtle3333]

Here's where I'm currently at in terms of the tech tree Current Research

I think I have enough items currently in queue to be made in order to finish those two stages. But looking ahead I'm concerned I might not have enough iron to carry me through as my stock is only 5.

[ehyder]

Ouch, that is going to be very hard if you really cannot get any more iron. The devs rebalanced the iron and coal a while back and I personally have not run into problems since then. Mostly just bottlenecks when I am trying to advance tech faster than I can find the resources.

Other than the suggestions I have already given (recycling, looking at the larger dark areas, mining lower level blocks), plus buying iron if you can get the coin, I am not sure there is much else you can do with this world. You might have to start over if the iron situation is really that bad.

[sandpitturtle3333]

Originally posted by ehyder:

Ouch, that is going to be very hard if you really cannot get any more iron. The devs rebalanced the iron and coal a while back and I personally have not run into problems since then. Mostly just bottlenecks when I am trying to advance tech faster than I can find the resources.

Other than the suggestions I have already given (recycling, looking at the larger dark areas, mining lower level blocks), plus buying iron if you can get the coin, I am not sure there is much else you can do with this world. You might have to start over if the iron situation is really that bad.

I was fearing that might be the case. I know I can cut the intial play time down now that I know more of the game but I don't think it would be that much.
I'll have to give your suggestions a go and try to farm creatures for weapon drops when I can as I think they recycle iron.
It's just some of those waves are insane even with the aid of 2 wooden towers supported with a variety of traps. Example being 1 berserker, 2 beholders, 2 zombie flingers or similar situations.

Anyhow cheers for the aid. It helped in trying to understand the game more.

[ehyder]

If it is any consolation, when I first played the game it took me several times of starting over before I was not being wiped out from the waves. Now I can almost play the game in my sleep :). You will get there. Take a look at the builds some players are using, including mine. I think I still have a few screenshots up from before Steam screenshots stopped working for me.

Good luck!