Last Portal Piece?

[InweTelrunya]

I've found 4 out of 5 portal block recipes by killing off the zombie guys, but I'm still missing the last piece. Ran out of zombie guys though. Where do you get the last piece?

[ehyder]

Try going up or down a bit to see if you can find another chamber, there is some range in depth for the chambers. In one game I did get two portal pieces from one Guardian so things can get a bit wonky.

[InweTelrunya]

I have combed through the entire map. All the chambers are empty, but no fifth piece... Any ideas/solutions?

[ehyder]

If you are sure you have explored everywhere and the portal recipe is not in your craft book then unfortunately no.

[Manu]

There are 5 giant skeletons. 1 at the portal and the other 4 at the same radius from your starting point. Each one keeps the recipe of one part. the skeletons are distributed evenly so if you find one, you can guess the location of the other, in the other half of the map.

----------------------------------stock pile-----------------------------------

skeleton skeleton

skeleton skeleton
skeleton

[Manu]

Second try

----------------------------------stock pile-----------------------------------

skeleton......................................................... skeleton

..........skeleton...................................skeleton
..................................skeleton

[OdatNurd]

Does the Compass spell point at anything interesting?

[ehyder]

Rooms that are not that hard to find on your own. More useful in larger worlds. Although even then it is not that hard to find rooms since you are mining like crazy anyway.

[Lord Joda]

I came across the same problem in my Let's Play series (German) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYzl5mNgzY&list=UUpqXrD2EOh0m5tbBxBLPX-A) so if someone has an idea what I did wrong or what I can do to complete the level (or at least unlock the next one), help would be very much appreciated.

[ooga66]

I thought the same was happening to me, but it turned out the last boss was in a tiny tiny room, maybe like 2x3 size

[Flu]

And your compass also says nothing?

[ehyder]

I am on the Ice World (campaign, Mac) and have finally got to a point where I have one last undiscovered portal guardian. Usually I have more luck than this and I am sure I will find it eventually, but I was hoping that using the compass spell would reduce the search process. Sadly every time I use the spell the compass will not stop spinning. Tried it out on a number of different spots but there was no change.

Does anyone know how close the compass has to be for it to be effective?

Nothing like burning through a bunch of mana without a good result. Back to strip mining to find the last guardian. It's going to be a long time before I can spam the compass spell again.

[KatherineOfSky]

To maximize finding of minerals, I dig with 8 blocks vertically between pathways. (This is actually very handy, since elevators go through 28 blocks -- so one elevator can cover 3 x (8 block +1 path) sections.

8 blocks in between allows you to see EVERY block. There are no permanent dark areas.

[ehyder]

I usually do something similar on the smaller world. I tend not to be quite as systematic on the larger worlds, but can still usually spot all the guardians. DId not happen this time so I thought I would try the compass spell before resorting to more digging.

[Paranoia]

Originally posted by ehyder:

I am on the Ice World (campaign, Mac) and have finally got to a point where I have one last undiscovered portal guardian. Usually I have more luck than this and I am sure I will find it eventually, but I was hoping that using the compass spell would reduce the search process. Sadly every time I use the spell the compass will not stop spinning. Tried it out on a number of different spots but there was no change.

Does anyone know how close the compass has to be for it to be effective?

Nothing like burning through a bunch of mana without a good result. Back to strip mining to find the last guardian. It's going to be a long time before I can spam the compass spell again.

Finding all guardians can be tricky on large levels, especially since they can hide in a really tiny cave (you wouldn't believe how a seemingly insignificant tiny diagonal area that you haven't discovered suddenly turns out to be a guardian's hiding place).

The compass spell doesn't seem to have a range. It can be used anywhere, even on the surface, although obviously it's more convenient to use it deep undeground for more precise results. Basically, the compass takes something like a second to appear and then spins roughly 5 seconds more, pointing in the direction of a hidden room.
So either it's that the spell is bugged on Mac or maybe there's some other bug involved and your last guardian didn't spawn.

The silver lining is that the compass spell is not all that useful anyway. Its mana cost is unsustainable at the end game (where you actually start to actively look for guardians) and it makes little sense to use it since it shows you rooms, not guardians. A large world can have tons of rooms (waaaay over 5, maybe close to 10), so your best best is exploring the level anyway.

[ehyder]

I rarely use the compass spell because the mana cost is too high so I do not have as much experience with it as the other game mechanics. Digging through the old threads there were references to this spell having a limited range and other folks, way back, had a similar issue with the compass not settling down and picking a direction.

It is certainly possible that this behavior is a mac issue, I have already run into a number of these. But I was wondering if anyone had systematically tried to use the compass spell and come up with any parameters for when it does (not) work. Especially as it does make sense to use the compass spell to find guardians because guardians are in hidden rooms. I have no problem finding additional rooms, I am just trying to narrow the search so that I do not have to spend hours looking for that last guardian.

I have also found guardians in teeny/tiny places, and guardians with multiple portal pieces. I even had a guardian leap up to the surface - got a picture of that one if you want to take a look. So far I have never had any trouble finding all of the guardians and building a portal. I assume the guardian is still lurking in there somewhere, although there is a small chance that I finally encountered a portal bug. But it would be nice to be able to use an existing, and really expensive, spell for its purpose, finding rooms. And so far it is not working, or I have found all the hidden rooms. The first outcome suggests I should keep digging, the second that I should cut my losses and give up.