Came back to give it another chance...

[shars]

First played gzw when it came out and couldnt run it propely. was getting 30 fps and I coudlnt see the ai because of how blurry it was, after 11h I unistalled hoping theyd optimize the game in the future. Fastforward to 1st of december and nothing has changed, at all, eveything looks the same and feels the same, still getting poor fps... my pc isnt top end, however it can run almost everything including bodycam at 60fps and it looks great, why cant it be the case for this game...

[Bosshog]

Is everything else you own also a massive open world UE5 game? Bodycam maybe UE5 but its incomparable in scale.


You don’t mention your specs. If you were only getting 30fps at launch and everything was blurry it suggests you were already using some kind of up scaling? It may be time for an upgrade.

Next gen gameplay needs next gen hardware. People keep screaming for “optimisation” and comparing other games. Well there is nothing comparable in terms of scale. Those that are also run poorly on older hardware. There is only so much the devs can do.

At this point even a 4090 is a 3 year old card.

I mean my PS4 won’t play PS5 games.

Who should I talk to?

[shars]

Originally posted by Bosshog:

Is everything else you own also a massive open world UE5 game? Bodycam maybe UE5 but its incomparable in scale.


You don’t mention your specs. If you were only getting 30fps at launch and everything was blurry it suggests you were already using some kind of up scaling? It may be time for an upgrade.

Next gen gameplay needs next gen hardware. People keep screaming for “optimisation” and comparing other games. Well there is nothing comparable in terms of scale. Those that are also run poorly on older hardware. There is only so much the devs can do.

At this point even a 4090 is a 3 year old card.

I mean my PS4 won’t play PS5 games.

Who should I talk to?

Fair points, but I disagree with the blanket defense. I understand Grayzone Warfare is a massive openworld UE5 game, but so are plenty of other titles that are much better optimized for mid-tier systems. My PC may not be nextgen, but it gets the job done.

Optimization isn’t about making the game run perfectly on old hardware,it’s about scaling for a range of specs. Right now, it feels like GZW hasn’t been finetuned for anyone outside of ultra-high-end users. If a significant part of the player base is complaining about performance, that’s feedback worth considering. Devs making a game this ambitious should prioritize accessibility through better optimization, not just say, 'Upgrade or deal with it.'

[Bosshog]

Originally posted by shars:

Originally posted by Bosshog:

Is everything else you own also a massive open world UE5 game? Bodycam maybe UE5 but its incomparable in scale.


You don’t mention your specs. If you were only getting 30fps at launch and everything was blurry it suggests you were already using some kind of up scaling? It may be time for an upgrade.

Next gen gameplay needs next gen hardware. People keep screaming for “optimisation” and comparing other games. Well there is nothing comparable in terms of scale. Those that are also run poorly on older hardware. There is only so much the devs can do.

At this point even a 4090 is a 3 year old card.

I mean my PS4 won’t play PS5 games.

Who should I talk to?

Fair points, but I disagree with the blanket defense. I understand Grayzone Warfare is a massive openworld UE5 game, but so are plenty of other titles that are much better optimized for mid-tier systems. My PC may not be nextgen, but it gets the job done.

Optimization isn’t about making the game run perfectly on old hardware,it’s about scaling for a range of specs. Right now, it feels like GZW hasn’t been finetuned for anyone outside of ultra-high-end users. If a significant part of the player base is complaining about performance, that’s feedback worth considering. Devs making a game this ambitious should prioritize accessibility through better optimization, not just say, 'Upgrade or deal with it.'

So name another title.

And you still haven't listed your specs.

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by shars:

Originally posted by Bosshog:

Is everything else you own also a massive open world UE5 game? Bodycam maybe UE5 but its incomparable in scale.


You don’t mention your specs. If you were only getting 30fps at launch and everything was blurry it suggests you were already using some kind of up scaling? It may be time for an upgrade.

Next gen gameplay needs next gen hardware. People keep screaming for “optimisation” and comparing other games. Well there is nothing comparable in terms of scale. Those that are also run poorly on older hardware. There is only so much the devs can do.

At this point even a 4090 is a 3 year old card.

I mean my PS4 won’t play PS5 games.

Who should I talk to?

Fair points, but I disagree with the blanket defense. I understand Grayzone Warfare is a massive openworld UE5 game, but so are plenty of other titles that are much better optimized for mid-tier systems. My PC may not be nextgen, but it gets the job done.

Optimization isn’t about making the game run perfectly on old hardware,it’s about scaling for a range of specs. Right now, it feels like GZW hasn’t been finetuned for anyone outside of ultra-high-end users. If a significant part of the player base is complaining about performance, that’s feedback worth considering. Devs making a game this ambitious should prioritize accessibility through better optimization, not just say, 'Upgrade or deal with it.'

When you show me another game that looks like GZW and does the same things it does in terms of graphical fidelity. Then you can say there are plenty of other titles. There ARE open world UE5 games, but not a lot of them are doing what GZW is, particurally the vegetation density.

[Happy Larry]

Bruh bodycam is what? Its an indie game compared to this massive open world UE5 game. While the optimization is not the best ( just like stalker 2 ) , you need a decent rig to play something like this . Everything starts with dlss and frame gen , if you can use those you are good to go with the recent graphically stunning games.
People have to realize that its almost 2k25 and quality games are on the way . If you want to play them normally , time to upgrade.

[Shadow151]

should have gotten an amd system just got my new system 7800x3d cpu rx 7800xt 32 gigs ram game runs just fine on max settings my other pc was i5 13400f with 4070 64 gigs ram had alot issues crashing alot but i fixed for most part but im loveing my new system so far has ran smooth as baby butt

[AmonAmar]

Originally posted by Bosshog:

Next gen gameplay needs next gen hardware.

lol :D. Where is next gen gameplay or graphic in this game?

There is no art style. Just copy paste assets you can buy from Unreal Engine Marketplac etc.

I can play Stalker 2 on high settings with DLSS Quality - 60 FPS. Gray Zone lowest settings and DLSS Ultra performance - 25FPS.

Stalker 2 is also in Unreal. Stalker 2 is also open world. Stalker 2 is made in the war zone. If Ukrainians can make somehow working unreal engine when being shell by orcs then what excuse we have here?

Each time someone ask about performance of gray zone your kind of people only say "Buy Better Pc Peasants". But countless people just dropping game or just avoiding to buying ONLY because of performance. This way game will be just another dropped project in early access

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by AmonAmar:

Originally posted by Bosshog:

Next gen gameplay needs next gen hardware.

lol :D. Where is next gen gameplay or graphic in this game?

There is no art style. Just copy paste assets you can buy from Unreal Engine Marketplac etc.

I can play Stalker 2 on high settings with DLSS Quality - 60 FPS. Gray Zone lowest settings and DLSS Ultra performance - 25FPS.

Stalker 2 is also in Unreal. Stalker 2 is also open world. Stalker 2 is made in the war zone. If Ukrainians can make somehow working unreal engine when being shell by orcs then what excuse we have here?

Each time someone ask about performance of gray zone your kind of people only say "Buy Better Pc Peasants". But countless people just dropping game or just avoiding to buying ONLY because of performance. This way game will be just another dropped project in early access

You really comparing stalker 2 to GZW?

Tell me, where is the massive amount of vegetation in S2?
Where is the moving foliage that is there?
Where is the LOD that DOESN'T constantly pop into existence?
Where's the proper reflections? The shadow casting?
Top it all off with the game is doing all this while always online, it's pretty next gen.

[AmonAmar]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Originally posted by AmonAmar:

lol :D. Where is next gen gameplay or graphic in this game?

There is no art style. Just copy paste assets you can buy from Unreal Engine Marketplac etc.

I can play Stalker 2 on high settings with DLSS Quality - 60 FPS. Gray Zone lowest settings and DLSS Ultra performance - 25FPS.

Stalker 2 is also in Unreal. Stalker 2 is also open world. Stalker 2 is made in the war zone. If Ukrainians can make somehow working unreal engine when being shell by orcs then what excuse we have here?

Each time someone ask about performance of gray zone your kind of people only say "Buy Better Pc Peasants". But countless people just dropping game or just avoiding to buying ONLY because of performance. This way game will be just another dropped project in early access

You really comparing stalker 2 to GZW?

Tell me, where is the massive amount of vegetation in S2?
Where is the moving foliage that is there?
Where is the LOD that DOESN'T constantly pop into existence?
Where's the proper reflections? The shadow casting?
Top it all off with the game is doing all this while always online, it's pretty next gen.

If spam of bushes in open world is "next gen" for you then ok. :D

You can download for Free Unreal Engine buy few packs with vegetation. Copy paste 10000 time and you have your free gray zone.

Creating clean, sterile assets like in gray zone don't require much skills and effort.It's different story when you need create assets and terrain that looks destroyed/damaged/dirty like in Stalker.

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by AmonAmar:

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

You really comparing stalker 2 to GZW?

Tell me, where is the massive amount of vegetation in S2?
Where is the moving foliage that is there?
Where is the LOD that DOESN'T constantly pop into existence?
Where's the proper reflections? The shadow casting?
Top it all off with the game is doing all this while always online, it's pretty next gen.

If spam of bushes in open world is "next gen" for you then ok. :D

You can download for Free Unreal Engine buy few packs with vegetation. Copy paste 10000 time and you have your free gray zone.

Creating clean, sterile assets like in gray zone don't require much skills and effort.It's different story when you need create assets and terrain that looks destroyed/damaged/dirty like in Stalker.

Lol, what? What in the holy heck are you even on? The vegetation is not only dense it is moving AND casts shadows aka utilizing the lumen. It isn't just a jpeg like most games do. Further, yeah, you go ahead and do that, let me know when your GPU explodes. To do it in a game and not cause GPU's to explode AND not have to pop into existence when you get within 50 feet of it, is quite impressive. The draw distance alone in GZW puts most, if not all open worlds to shame.

[Bosshog]

Originally posted by AmonAmar:

Originally posted by Bosshog:

Next gen gameplay needs next gen hardware.

lol :D. Where is next gen gameplay or graphic in this game?

There is no art style. Just copy paste assets you can buy from Unreal Engine Marketplac etc.

I can play Stalker 2 on high settings with DLSS Quality - 60 FPS. Gray Zone lowest settings and DLSS Ultra performance - 25FPS.

Stalker 2 is also in Unreal. Stalker 2 is also open world. Stalker 2 is made in the war zone. If Ukrainians can make somehow working unreal engine when being shell by orcs then what excuse we have here?

Each time someone ask about performance of gray zone your kind of people only say "Buy Better Pc Peasants". But countless people just dropping game or just avoiding to buying ONLY because of performance. This way game will be just another dropped project in early access

Stalker 2 maybe in UE5, but it looks like a 2010 game. They could have made it in UE4 and nobody would have noticed.

If you are getting 25fps in GZW with DLSS, that's a problem on your end. I get a stable 100fps without any upscaling or DLSS at 1440p. But I'm using hardware from this decade.

[shars]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Originally posted by AmonAmar:

lol :D. Where is next gen gameplay or graphic in this game?

There is no art style. Just copy paste assets you can buy from Unreal Engine Marketplac etc.

I can play Stalker 2 on high settings with DLSS Quality - 60 FPS. Gray Zone lowest settings and DLSS Ultra performance - 25FPS.

Stalker 2 is also in Unreal. Stalker 2 is also open world. Stalker 2 is made in the war zone. If Ukrainians can make somehow working unreal engine when being shell by orcs then what excuse we have here?

Each time someone ask about performance of gray zone your kind of people only say "Buy Better Pc Peasants". But countless people just dropping game or just avoiding to buying ONLY because of performance. This way game will be just another dropped project in early access

You really comparing stalker 2 to GZW?

Tell me, where is the massive amount of vegetation in S2?
Where is the moving foliage that is there?
Where is the LOD that DOESN'T constantly pop into existence?
Where's the proper reflections? The shadow casting?
Top it all off with the game is doing all this while always online, it's pretty next gen.

More than 50% of Steam users have a 4–6-year-old GPU. What’s the point of making a game this demanding when the average gamer doesn’t have a top-end rig? Why can’t it look beautiful like Red Dead Redemption 2 or Battlefield 1, where nearly everyone can play on ultra settings? Instead, we’re forced to play on low settings, making the game look terrible. What’s the point of next-gen visuals if you have to turn your settings down so much that it ruins the experience?

[Jonathan J. O'Neill]

Originally posted by shars:

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

You really comparing stalker 2 to GZW?

Tell me, where is the massive amount of vegetation in S2?
Where is the moving foliage that is there?
Where is the LOD that DOESN'T constantly pop into existence?
Where's the proper reflections? The shadow casting?
Top it all off with the game is doing all this while always online, it's pretty next gen.

More than 50% of Steam users have a 4–6-year-old GPU. What’s the point of making a game this demanding when the average gamer doesn’t have a top-end rig? Why can’t it look beautiful like Red Dead Redemption 2 or Battlefield 1, where nearly everyone can play on ultra settings? Instead, we’re forced to play on low settings, making the game look terrible. What’s the point of next-gen visuals if you have to turn your settings down so much that it ruins the experience?

This has been a thing with every next gen title. Lower end hardware will have to turn stuff down. For me, Shadows were the first thing I would disable on newer games and that was, often, enough.

[Soulstain]

Originally posted by Bosshog:

Originally posted by AmonAmar:

lol :D. Where is next gen gameplay or graphic in this game?

There is no art style. Just copy paste assets you can buy from Unreal Engine Marketplac etc.

I can play Stalker 2 on high settings with DLSS Quality - 60 FPS. Gray Zone lowest settings and DLSS Ultra performance - 25FPS.

Stalker 2 is also in Unreal. Stalker 2 is also open world. Stalker 2 is made in the war zone. If Ukrainians can make somehow working unreal engine when being shell by orcs then what excuse we have here?

Each time someone ask about performance of gray zone your kind of people only say "Buy Better Pc Peasants". But countless people just dropping game or just avoiding to buying ONLY because of performance. This way game will be just another dropped project in early access

Stalker 2 maybe in UE5, but it looks like a 2010 game. They could have made it in UE4 and nobody would have noticed.

If you are getting 25fps in GZW with DLSS, that's a problem on your end. I get a stable 100fps without any upscaling or DLSS at 1440p. But I'm using hardware from this decade.

Lol, Stalker is the best looking game I’ve ever seen. It’s absolutely incredible and runs smooth as butter without DLSS for me all on epic. GZW on the other hand NEEDS DLSS to run half arsed and looks blurry and grainy. Even the inventory screens looks pixelated. The only way to make the game look good is to make it darker with saturation and then you can’t see the AI properly.

[Cryptix]

The graphics aren't even that great in this game so it's still surprising how bad this game performs. Sure it's UE5 but what is it even improving? It sure as hell ain't graphics.