This game has no ballistics, the developer is lying!

[F O C U S E D]

For anyone who bought into their lie, this game has no real ballistics. What's more, they completely fake the hits.

I am a new player, with very high accuracy in shooting games, above average player. On the first mission with the gas station, I ran into 3 enemies. The first one was 3 meters away from me. Point-blank, Iron Sight, Single fire.. 3 shots in a head, it not die, it return fire and wounded me. Second enemy I shot death center on the body, from 10 m away, Iron Sight again... It die after I almost emptying all the magazine into it. We talk about m4a1, not a pistol. This is the type of games that simulate fake shooting progress. This is the reason why I must die, because I am newbie in the game and this is my first mission. This means that all talk of special ballistics in the game is a total lie, and I can easily prove it with a few videos.

So my question is, why are the developers lying to the players about ballistics?! Here the ballistics are as follows: You hit, the server denies this hit, they call it physics and ballistics with marketing purpose.

[Gottolly]

because it's early access and the game is in pre-alpha state. Bullet Reg vs. AI is an already known topic.

[notSure]

bro think there is a ballistic difference at 3 or 10 m with a 600+m/s bullet^^

its a server thing or other bug that some enemy don´t die man

[F O C U S E D]

Originally posted by Mr.Fish:

You aren't even talking about ballistics, you are talking about hitreg, why are gamers so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid?
Hitreg is fine when you are on a good server that isn't lagging.
Desync is the issue here, problems with the servers and lag, try to learn a thing or two before opening mouth.

Why are you shooting center mass? this isn't fortnite, you should be aiming specifically for the heart or brain, as organs are modelled and so are armour plates, there is no blast away at center mass, unless you are trying to kill by bleed out from causing multiple wounds, why not just one shot the heart....

This game has literally the best terminal ballistics in gaming imo.
Have some patience, learn where to place shot correctly and switch servers to a non desyncing server for better hitreg.

No, this I learned yesterday. The server I chose is in my region, and there is no specific shuttering and lagging. It was OK. I know what is hitreg, moron. This is not hitreg problem, I think, this is GAME SPECIFIC CHEAT, that developers introduce. I'm sure. They try to faking real ballistics, because they talk ♥♥♥♥♥ about it, without knowing what a headache getting real ballistics into multiplayer game is.

Hitreg is not the main problem, the main problem is the code that reject hits even they are registered, as I said, to simulate fake ballistics. Ask f*king developers for what I'm talking about, if you don't understand. Hitreg's problems usually are obvious when the AIs or Players move. When they two are in static position, and you shoot 3 shots on single fire mode from 2-3 meters away, in this time, if the hitreg is the problem, that will be the end of this game. It will be unplayable. As I said, they simulate players shooting progression, and in the beginning it reject all the hits, so new players to think it is terribly difficult.

P.s. Will any of the devs say anything or are you going to let the trolls troll me not understanding any of your shts?! IT IS NOT HITREG PROBLEM, ONLY!

[notSure]

at this point i assume hes after clown awards only

stop feeding the troll :)

[F O C U S E D]

Originally posted by Dom:

at this point i assume hes after clown awards only

stop feeding the troll :)

Why are you playing this game?! To shoot newbies and think you are good enough on it?! Because what I'm telling you is exactly that. On PvP you can kill newbies all day long, not because you are better from them, but because they are newbies. Another game that gives a false sense of self worth to old players at the expense of new ones. Every single game like that I know quickly ends with 100-200 people on steam, per day. Developers should take a hard look at how their game is going, then ask themselves if they're going to continue in that direction. https://steamcharts.com/app/2479810

[Jonathan J. O'Neill]

It is a hit reg and server desynch issue. I rarely have problems killing enemies, all the way from the starter town up to Midnight Sapphire. If I do, I jump to another server and it's usually fine again. Playing in your region doesn't, necessarily, mean better performance. I'm on the US East coast but US East usually causes me more issues than Oceania or US West. Shop around with the regions and find one that works for you.

[F O C U S E D]

Originally posted by Jonathan J. O'Neill:

It is a hit reg and server desynch issue. I rarely have problems killing enemies, all the way from the starter town up to Midnight Sapphire. If I do, I jump to another server and it's usually fine again. Playing in your region doesn't, necessarily, mean better performance. I'm on the US East coast but US East usually causes me more issues than Oceania or US West. Shop around with the regions and find one that works for you.

I repeat, it is not only hitreg problem. I want one of the developers to tell me that it is "ONLY hitreg problem", and I will demonstrate how fake this game is. It means they set you up K/D ratio for PvPvE mod in favor of players with more hours. That's the real problem here.

[Jonathan J. O'Neill]

Originally posted by F O C U S E D:

Originally posted by Jonathan J. O'Neill:

It is a hit reg and server desynch issue. I rarely have problems killing enemies, all the way from the starter town up to Midnight Sapphire. If I do, I jump to another server and it's usually fine again. Playing in your region doesn't, necessarily, mean better performance. I'm on the US East coast but US East usually causes me more issues than Oceania or US West. Shop around with the regions and find one that works for you.

I repeat, it is not only hitreg problem. I want one of the developers to tell me that it is "ONLY hitreg problem", and I will demonstrate how fake this game is. It means they set you up K/D ratio for PvPvE mod in favor of players with more hours. That's the real problem here.

I've got videos of me clearing an area over a ten minute period where enemies are dead in one to five shots from ranges between five meters and one hundred meters. Recorded a couple days ago that proves it's not an issue with ballistics but a hit-reg issue. If it was a ballistics issue, it'd affect everyone. It's a latency issue, so affects people with poor connection to the server or poor server performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A2O4X3lZZY

[Collin R.]

"Plays shooting games" while having a photo album that consists of only no mans sky. Real shooter here folks

[notSure]

Originally posted by F O C U S E D:

Originally posted by Jonathan J. O'Neill:

It is a hit reg and server desynch issue. I rarely have problems killing enemies, all the way from the starter town up to Midnight Sapphire. If I do, I jump to another server and it's usually fine again. Playing in your region doesn't, necessarily, mean better performance. I'm on the US East coast but US East usually causes me more issues than Oceania or US West. Shop around with the regions and find one that works for you.

I repeat, it is not only hitreg problem. I want one of the developers to tell me that it is "ONLY hitreg problem", and I will demonstrate how fake this game is. It means they set you up K/D ratio for PvPvE mod in favor of players with more hours. That's the real problem here.

its still has zero to do with ballistic lmao

also the K/D thing is top notch alu hat moment keep it coming

[notSure]

Originally posted by Collin R.:

"Plays shooting games" while having a photo album that consists of only no mans sky. Real shooter here folks

yeah this guy is 100% fake and just a lil baiter

[Agntorange]

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[76561199664596133]

it does, use tracers and shoot the chairs at the basecamp in the tent, spray a whole 60, watch em fly

[PRSK]

Originally posted by Mr.Fish:

You aren't even talking about ballistics, you are talking about hitreg, why are gamers so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid?
Hitreg is fine when you are on a good server that isn't lagging.
Desync is the issue here, problems with the servers and lag, try to learn a thing or two before opening mouth.

Why are you shooting center mass? this isn't fortnite, you should be aiming specifically for the heart or brain, as organs are modelled and so are armour plates, there is no blast away at center mass, unless you are trying to kill by bleed out from causing multiple wounds, why not just one shot the heart....

This game has literally the best terminal ballistics in gaming imo.
Have some patience, learn where to place shot correctly and switch servers to a non desyncing server for better hitreg.

To be honest they teached us in the army to aim center mass with rifles, not head or legs.
In reality if you shoot someone in the chest with 5.56 (no armor) it will put you down even if it is not deadly hit and you won't be running anymore (of course i don't mean scratch).
I was hit with 7.62x39 into my bulletproof vest/carrier and it broke three of my ribs and punched the air out of me.
Shooting someone multiple times and he just keep going is BS even if he is high on meth.

I know this is a game and headshot is better but in reality people are not that accurate.

(I know about reghit problem, just pointing out the center mass aiming.)

[CrusaderKiller]

I will jump on this thread, not to feed the troll, but to see if others can test this scenario.
if you go to the range at the base (mine is the Crimson Shield), have a buddy stand at a target. Fire single shots from the mortar pit at center mass. Regardless of your range setting on the weapon, your buddy will see "graphics" of where you hit differently than where you will see the graphics of where you hit. If you hit center mass, your buddy may see it 2-3 inches below, left or right. This does not seem to effect anything in game accept the bullet hole graphics. I tested this in the field too, and same results.
Not sure if this has anything to do with the impression the ballistics is wrong, or a sync issue, or hit reg, but it is weird this happens.